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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: Khare on 17 November 2010, 23:28

Title: Braided brake lines
Post by: Khare on 17 November 2010, 23:28: Missus is getting me a set of 6 goodridge braided brake lines (birthday) for the 16v setup I have sitting at home.
So in the next month or so I'll be sticking them on. Anyone recommend any tools I should buy for the job? I've got pretty basic tools including a socket set. Any special brake hose spanners I should buy or anything needed for the job? I'm worried that I'm going to round off the bolt that joins the solid line to the rubber line at the front wheel well. Obviously I'll soak in plusgas and wire brush the nut to have it clean, but ?m worried a normal spanner will round it off, any advice?
Title: Re: Braided brake lines
Post by: Wayne on 17 November 2010, 23:31: Take it easy but it is one of those jobs that goes well or is a nightmare.

Good luck.

Standard spanners should do the trick.
Title: Re: Braided brake lines
Post by: Khare on 18 November 2010, 02:13: Yeah, brake work I hate, they either work or don't :grin: :grin:

So standard spanners will be fine then, good, saves me money!
Title: Re: Braided brake lines
Post by: N900 MJT on 18 November 2010, 09:41: Let me know how it goes as i am planning on doing this in the new year
Title: Re: Braided brake lines
Post by: rubjonny on 18 November 2010, 10:58: use a proper 11mm brake pipe spanner for the metal pipe fittings, boggo spanner will probably round em off. flexi side chop the hose so you can get a ring spanner on it

edit: like this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DRAPER-10-11-MM-CAR-FLARE-INJECTION-BRAKE-PIPE-SPANNER-/380171399079
Title: Re: Braided brake lines
Post by: snifferdog on 18 November 2010, 12:00: Cheap enough! Might as well buy one to have in the tool kit anyway!
Title: Re: Braided brake lines
Post by: Paul86S2 on 18 November 2010, 12:16: I'll second the special brake pipe spanners. You really don't want to round off the fittings.

Are you removing the load valve at the rear? The 16v setup didn't have the load valve.

Paul
Title: Re: Braided brake lines
Post by: Khare on 18 November 2010, 12:52: Quote from: Paul86S2 on 18 November 2010, 12:16
I'll second the special brake pipe spanners. You really don't want to round off the fittings.

Are you removing the load valve at the rear? The 16v setup didn't have the load valve.

Paul

Don't think mine has one either, didn't see anything when I took the rear beam off.

I'll get the scanner then, 11mm for sure yeah?
Title: Re: Braided brake lines
Post by: LazyLunatic on 18 November 2010, 12:59: Also pray the bleed nipple's aren't seized, I was very gentle with mine but still broke it. Ended buying a new caliper in the end, they are cheap enough.

Just for the record, I don't have a rear compensator, removed it and just ran two pipes from the front to the back (one each side). Haven't had any issues so far.
Title: Re: Braided brake lines
Post by: VW BUSH on 18 November 2010, 13:11: Dont put em on twisted, very bad :wink:
Title: Re: Braided brake lines
Post by: Khare on 18 November 2010, 13:29: Quote from: LazyLunatic on 18 November 2010, 12:59
Also pray the bleed nipple's aren't seized, I was very gentle with mine but still broke it. Ended buying a new caliper in the end, they are cheap enough.

Just for the record, I don't have a rear compensator, removed it and just ran two pipes from the front to the back (one each side). Haven't had any issues so far.

Nipples were given a nipple cripple at conversion time as barked had to be rebled, so about 6 months ago.
Title: Re: Braided brake lines
Post by: LazyLunatic on 18 November 2010, 16:50: Quote from: Khare on 18 November 2010, 13:29
Quote from: LazyLunatic on 18 November 2010, 12:59
Also pray the bleed nipple's aren't seized, I was very gentle with mine but still broke it. Ended buying a new caliper in the end, they are cheap enough.

Just for the record, I don't have a rear compensator, removed it and just ran two pipes from the front to the back (one each side). Haven't had any issues so far.

Nipples were given a nipple cripple at conversion time as barked had to be rebled, so about 6 months ago.

:cool:
Title: Re: Braided brake lines
Post by: Bellend on 18 November 2010, 17:38: Advice for tight ones, is IF there is space is stick a proper brake spanner on it and molegrip the edges so it doesn't open at all. :wink:
Title: Re: Braided brake lines
Post by: Khare on 18 November 2010, 18:01: Bought that draper one RJ suggested.
Title: Re: Braided brake lines
Post by: Mikester on 18 November 2010, 18:04: Ive just fitted goodridge braided hoses with brembo discs and ferrodo ds2500 pads. Cant complain :cool:

You wont be disappointed.
Title: Re: Braided brake lines
Post by: Khare on 18 November 2010, 18:53: I do need some new rear discs and pads, even to get a full new set of oem stuff is so expensive!
Title: Re: Braided brake lines
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 18 November 2010, 18:59: Personally id advise against spending much on the rear brakes unless you've mega power under the bonnet as they hardly do any of the work anyway. If i remember rightly it's something like 70/75% up front and the rest at the rear on most vehicles therefore making fully working factory issue rear discs more than sufficient.
Title: Re: Braided brake lines
Post by: Khare on 18 November 2010, 19:17: Quote from: thai-wronghorse on 18 November 2010, 18:59
Personally id advise against spending much on the rear brakes unless you've mega power under the bonnet as they hardly do any of the work anyway. If i remember rightly it's something like 70/75% up front and the rest at the rear on most vehicles therefore making fully working factory issue rear discs more than sufficient.

Oh I know, the rear is just a direct OEM replacement. No fancy pads or discs there :smiley:

288 discs cost I think 40 each from GSF, and pads around the 70 mark, so that's a good 150 for the fronts alone. A while back I worked out I needed around 250 to sort the brakes completly.
Title: Re: Braided brake lines
Post by: Khare on 18 November 2010, 19:45: Brembo max discs are 43 each and ferodo ds2500 pads are 95 for the front set.

Ouch!
Title: Re: Braided brake lines
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 19 November 2010, 00:15: Agree with advice about brake pipe spanner, or use a flared one.
NEVER use a normal open ended spanner on a brake line, well i learnt the hard way :grin:
Title: Re: Braided brake lines
Post by: Khare on 19 November 2010, 00:49: Quote from: AudiA8Quattro on 19 November 2010, 00:15
Agree with advice about brake pipe spanner, or use a flared one.
NEVER use a normal open ended spanner on a brake line, well i learnt the hard way :grin:

Yeah I rather do it the easy way!

As I said, got myself the draper brake line spanner RJ suggested :smiley:
Title: Re: Braided brake lines
Post by: Bellend on 19 November 2010, 17:31: HANG on a second.

I'm ill, can't read or think straight -BUT-

Are you going for uprated pads?

I can get OEM replacement pads for about £25...... :huh:
Title: Re: Braided brake lines
Post by: Khare on 20 November 2010, 02:47: Put it this way. If I buy something new, it has to be better than OEM.
Title: Re: Braided brake lines
Post by: Mikester on 22 November 2010, 17:03: Quote from: Khare on 18 November 2010, 19:45
Brembo max discs are 43 each and ferodo ds2500 pads are 95 for the front set.

Ouch!

Those pads are awesome though, demontweeks do them cheaper. OEM on the rear for sure, but up front get something special.
Title: Re: Braided brake lines
Post by: Khare on 22 November 2010, 17:39: Yeah that's the plan Mikey, fronts I'd like some nice 312mm drilled brakes but that would require bigger wheels and more money :sad:
Title: Re: Braided brake lines
Post by: Mikester on 22 November 2010, 19:15: Its all about the money. Of course my experience with these brakes isnt on a golf anyway! Ha.

But still a 2L 16v engine...