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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Ant on 15 November 2010, 10:25

Title: DSG problem, gearbox or driver error?
Post by: Ant on 15 November 2010, 10:25
Before I continue to kick up a fuss with VW I just want to check that what I am experiencing is a gearbox problem and not an issue with how I drive.

I generally drive in tiptronic mode, but I find when changing to some gears (usually either up or down into 2nd at speeds around 30/40mph) there is a noticeable period of 1 and sometimes 2 secs before the car is able to put power down into that new gear. Sometimes the car seriously drops in momentum, I can feel something retarding the motion and a couple of times have been thrown forwards slightly.

The revs are not huge, am usually around 2-2.5k rpm so it's not as if changing gear is going to red line it. My only other thought is that it could have something to do with the turbo.

Any advice gratefully received.
Title: Re: DSG problem, gearbox or driver error?
Post by: savvasa on 15 November 2010, 13:42
Mine does this as well, but it is even more noticeable in Auto mode when I put my foot down. There is around a 1 or 2 second delay before it kicks into gear.
Title: Re: DSG problem, gearbox or driver error?
Post by: Egbutt Wash on 16 November 2010, 00:21
It's normal.  Just learn how to stop confusing the software.  Then blast off all those old pensioners in their manual cars.  A DSG is, in normal road use, as good as an extra 100 bhp.  Any time you want it.

Title: Re: DSG problem, gearbox or driver error?
Post by: Sam on 16 November 2010, 00:47
It's normal.  Just learn how to stop confusing the software.  Then blast off all those old pensioners in their manual cars.  A DSG is, in normal road use, as good as an extra 100 bhp.  Any time you want it.



Oh noshy nosh nosh
Title: Re: DSG problem, gearbox or driver error?
Post by: DJGTi on 16 November 2010, 16:37
Is it because, for example, you are in 3rd and the box has 4th preselected (expecting you to change up) and then you ask for 2nd and it has to switch cogs?

Same would happen in auto if you floored it in 3rd?
Title: Re: DSG problem, gearbox or driver error?
Post by: Ant on 16 November 2010, 22:53
Is it because, for example, you are in 3rd and the box has 4th preselected (expecting you to change up) and then you ask for 2nd and it has to switch cogs?

Same would happen in auto if you floored it in 3rd?
Well it should be expecting me to change down, after all I get this when going through change downs (4-3-2 with a small gap between changes)
Also I get the problem going from 1st to 2nd (and have a couple of times got it going 6th -> 5th)

I can understand it may have to select a different gear to the preselected one at times, but I would have thought that it would remain in the current gear until ready to change and not feel like it's put the brakes on and dipped the clutch.
Title: Re: DSG problem, gearbox or driver error?
Post by: Khare on 17 November 2010, 01:36
Is it because, for example, you are in 3rd and the box has 4th preselected (expecting you to change up) and then you ask for 2nd and it has to switch cogs?

Same would happen in auto if you floored it in 3rd?
Well it should be expecting me to change down, after all I get this when going through change downs (4-3-2 with a small gap between changes)
Also I get the problem going from 1st to 2nd (and have a couple of times got it going 6th -> 5th)

I can understand it may have to select a different gear to the preselected one at times, but I would have thought that it would remain in the current gear until ready to change and not feel like it's put the brakes on and dipped the clutch.

Doesn't DGS have 1 clutch in 1st 3rd and 5th then another in 2nd 4th and 6th? Therefore gear up or down will always be preselected.
Title: Re: DSG problem, gearbox or driver error?
Post by: tech1889 on 21 November 2010, 22:13
no because if your in 3rd it cant select 4th and 2nd at same time incase you choose to go up or down..
Title: Re: DSG problem, gearbox or driver error?
Post by: Saint Steve on 22 November 2010, 08:59
Is it because, for example, you are in 3rd and the box has 4th preselected (expecting you to change up) and then you ask for 2nd and it has to switch cogs?

Same would happen in auto if you floored it in 3rd?
Well it should be expecting me to change down, after all I get this when going through change downs (4-3-2 with a small gap between changes)
Also I get the problem going from 1st to 2nd (and have a couple of times got it going 6th -> 5th)

I can understand it may have to select a different gear to the preselected one at times, but I would have thought that it would remain in the current gear until ready to change and not feel like it's put the brakes on and dipped the clutch.

Doesn't DGS have 1 clutch in 1st 3rd and 5th then another in 2nd 4th and 6th? Therefore gear up or down will always be preselected.

Correct.

no because if your in 3rd it cant select 4th and 2nd at same time incase you choose to go up or down..

Incorrect

Title: Re: DSG problem, gearbox or driver error?
Post by: Egbutt Wash on 22 November 2010, 11:53
+1
Title: Re: DSG problem, gearbox or driver error?
Post by: DJGTi on 23 November 2010, 18:16
-1

There are 2 clutches. One can engage 1st, 3rd and 5th. The other covers 2nd, 4th and 6th.

One can't engage 2nd and 4th at the same time.
Title: Re: DSG problem, gearbox or driver error?
Post by: arletty69 on 28 November 2010, 11:29
Correct!