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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: messenjah on 14 November 2010, 16:49

Title: it should not be this difficult
Post by: messenjah on 14 November 2010, 16:49
hi guys,
i am having serious issues removing the gearbox from my mk2 8v gti ... and i really shouldnt be  im not completely inexperienced attempting something out of my ability i could do a clutch change in 40 mins on my capri ...


i have so far spent about 4 hours trying to get the gearbox out of this golf ... everything is undone and was undone within half an hour  i just cant get it off ... the driveshaft flange gets stuck behind the flywheel  it doesnt seem to matter what i do ...  ive trie being underneath it moving it around with both arms ive tried being above with a jack under it ... 

the gearbox is scrap there are big holes int he casing where it exploded and i have two spares but i just cannot get the damn thing out ... any ideas before i take an angle grinder to the offending flange ?
Title: Re: it should not be this difficult
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 14 November 2010, 16:58
Do this in reverse.   :grin: :grin: :grin:

http://www.youtube.com/user/9Barry009#p/u/16/nSNAg14KDMM

Title: Re: it should not be this difficult
Post by: messenjah on 14 November 2010, 17:00
about as helpful as the "and now remove the gearbox" step in the haynes book of lies
Title: Re: it should not be this difficult
Post by: clipperjay on 14 November 2010, 17:35
Bigger hammer or muscles or even a blow torch  :lipsrsealed:
Tried rocking it free?
Could be a one bolt you have missed?
 
Title: Re: it should not be this difficult
Post by: messenjah on 14 November 2010, 17:39
there deffo no more bolts and its not a muscles thing because im pretty sure im fine on that front ... its just the angles .. they dont seem to work
Title: Re: it should not be this difficult
Post by: golfnut8v on 14 November 2010, 17:42
have you taken the alloy bracket off at the rear ( bolts down onto gearbox mount ) ?

there is a tin plate between box and engine think its a 10mm / 13mm bolt..have you takren this off?

Title: Re: it should not be this difficult
Post by: messenjah on 14 November 2010, 18:04
both are off the only problem is getting the drive shaft flange past the gearbox
Title: Re: it should not be this difficult
Post by: Mr Blue on 14 November 2010, 18:10
gearbox flange stuck between the flywheel. That bit piss me off soo bad.

You need another pair of hands. someone to lift it while you twist it out.
Title: Re: it should not be this difficult
Post by: messenjah on 14 November 2010, 18:12
i think im gonna remove the bumper and the whole front panel ... and the whole nsf suspension   so i can stand next to it and do it ... its the only way i can see of getting enough acess to maybe manage it ..
 

or enough acess to get a grinder in and cut it off
Title: Re: it should not be this difficult
Post by: l333 on 14 November 2010, 18:30
ha ha ha you didnt know the flange is spost to come out of the box before you try and remove it then. if you look in the middle of the flange there will be a circlip you need you remove then pull the flange out or some of them there is a 6mm allen bolt
Title: Re: it should not be this difficult
Post by: clipperjay on 14 November 2010, 18:31
ha ha ha you didnt know the flange is spost to come out of the box before you try and remove it then. if you look in the middle of the flange there will be a circlip you need you remove then pull the flange out or some of them there is a 6mm allen bolt
:wink: one bloody bolt!
Title: Re: it should not be this difficult
Post by: messenjah on 14 November 2010, 18:42
cannot find said circlip or allen bolt ...


there is the flange .. then a green collar then the body of the box .. ?
Title: Re: it should not be this difficult
Post by: messenjah on 14 November 2010, 18:44
ok so inside the flange under the middle cap take the circlip out hammer it off and rober is your fathers brother ... THANK YOU !!!!!



should have it all back together tomorrow then lol
Title: Re: it should not be this difficult
Post by: clipperjay on 14 November 2010, 18:48
Make sure you have enough support though fella no limbs crushed on here  :laugh:
Title: Re: it should not be this difficult
Post by: messenjah on 14 November 2010, 19:02
i shall support it with my face
Title: Re: it should not be this difficult
Post by: clipperjay on 14 November 2010, 19:17
Thats the spirit  :cool:
Title: Re: it should not be this difficult
Post by: dubber36 on 14 November 2010, 19:39
Jeez, you thought that was hard? Now try taking the glovebox out :grin:
Title: Re: it should not be this difficult
Post by: danny_p on 15 November 2010, 00:30
the easy way is to rotate the box so if looking at the box from passinger side end on the flange is in about the 2 oclock position,  and let the engien drop a few inches before supporting it,  box comes out easy then
Title: Re: it should not be this difficult
Post by: Ben Lessani on 15 November 2010, 00:37
Jeez, you thought that was hard? Now try taking the glovebox out :grin:

Lol. I tried, and failed. http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=49436.msg851895#msg851895
Title: Re: it should not be this difficult
Post by: spankier on 17 November 2010, 20:14
lol! mk2 gearboxes are the bain of my life!

it is possible with i all in the car, the twist it to two oclock advice sounds about right but it seems different every time i do it.

if you end up taking the flange off you have to poke the little rubber cap out of the centre to get to the circlip (cap is normally hidden bby the cv joint) and borrow somebodys dads old sckool circlip pliers because its not the type of clip with holes in. the pliers you need look like needle nose ones but the serated face is on the outside so it grips the end of the clip while you open it. Once the clip is off make sure you get the washer off from behint it too, they arent hard to get out but they can drop into the clip groove and stop the flange coming off properly, by this point one of two things will have happened- either a) the flange hasnt budged in which case you need to bash it till its out oir b) its not stuck and the big spring that lives behind it will have fired it at you/anything expensive in your garage. the spring is a bugger to squeeze up so making a puller out of a bit of steel bar and some threaded rod helps.

chances are you will end up taking the flange off your next box to put it in so while your at it do em both and drop some new seals in (10-15quid delivered of the ebay) as they are known for leaking and make sure you remember to put the brass split washer in the right way round or you will have all sorts of wobbly rumbly problems.

see the broke vw website  http://www.brokevw.com/  for more info than you could ever need and lots of pics of these boxes in bits. hope this helps!