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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: Retro_look on 13 November 2010, 16:43
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guys whats the widest alloys and offest i can use without messing with the arches, also got the hottunning coilovers fitted. I want something with a large dish
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That would depend entirely on how low you are running the car, without this it's pretty much impossible to help you. It would also help if you had any wheels in mind? :huh:
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well i have it very low at the moment, but not bothered about raising it back up if need be.
im after something like a "16 bsx lenso
with this kinda dish look
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/rstommyk67/BSX.jpg)
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Well from what I can see they come in 16x7.5 with an ofset of et25 which would be ok as long as you don't go stupidly low.
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7.5 wouldnt be as dished as the one in the pic above would it? think the one in the pic is 9.0
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All down to offset at the end of the day.
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so really i need 7.5 with a smaller offset? to create a deeper dish effect, if available
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I had 7inch wide wheels with an offset of et30. They cleared the hottuning coilovers but rubbed the sh!t out of the arch liners and the edges of the arch.
Paul
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The higher your offset the further in the arch your wheel will sit. The lower your offset the further out it will stick. Stock wheels are ~et40 I think.
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I have long beach alloys at the mo
6.5x15 ET43 5/100
sorry trying to get my head round this
would offset affect the size of the dish? this bit
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/rstommyk67/BSXdiagram.jpg)
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Taken from wikipedia:
Zero Offset - The plane of the hub mounting surface is even with the centerline of the wheel.
Positive Offset - The plane of the hub mounting surface is shifted from the centerline toward the front or outside of the wheel. Positive offset wheels are generally found on front wheel drive cars and newer rear drive cars.
Negative Offset - The plane of the hub mounting surface is toward the back or brake side of the wheel's centerline.
"Deep dish" wheels typically have negative offset or a very low positive offset.
The the pic below; Offset (ET): Distance in mm from center (C) of rim to mounting plane (M)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Einpresstiefe_i18n.png/600px-Einpresstiefe_i18n.png)
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Also just to add, been on a useful website (http://www.gtsparkplugs.com/WheelOffsetCalc.html (http://www.gtsparkplugs.com/WheelOffsetCalc.html))
In comparison to standard rims:
-16x7 with et25 would 'poke' the wheels out about 23mm
-16x7.5 with et30 would be more like 25mm
-16x8 with et35 would be very similar but you might then have to run 10mm spacers to clear suspension struts/brake calipers creating an offset of et25 which would stick the wheels out by about 35mm causing you to need arch work
Basically if your going for a deep dish effect properly you'll have to get arch work done :smiley:
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cheers guys :smiley:
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7.5 wouldnt be as dished as the one in the pic above would it? think the one in the pic is 9.0
Yes that is a 9x16 inch wheel,the lenso bsx's on come in 7.5 and 9's,and the 7.5's have nowhere near that amount of dish,a set of those lenso's in 9's will cost you nearly a grand with tyres,calibre also do a similar wheel call the vintage that are cheaper and i believe have just started to produce them in 9's but they only come in 17inch.
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Defo gona need arch work for 9.0 then? Is it just arch rolling needed?
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Defo gona need arch work for 9.0 then? Is it just arch rolling needed?
I'd imagine you'd need quite serious arch work and a fair amount of stretch to fit 9's properly.
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Anyone know of a make of alloys that is quite dished that would fit straight on?
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Defo gona need arch work for 9.0 then? Is it just arch rolling needed?
I'd imagine you'd need quite serious arch work and a fair amount of stretch to fit 9's properly.
Yes you do :D
You can run wide-a$$ wheels at standard height and have no problems (spacing them out if they foul the coilover). Its when you drop the car you have problems and there is no point running deep dish wheels unless you got lows IMO. Grab a hammer and a dolly and whack your arches out; arch rollers are crap.
I shall be getting my hammer and dolly kit out very soon :D
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Defo gona need arch work for 9.0 then? Is it just arch rolling needed?
I'd imagine you'd need quite serious arch work and a fair amount of stretch to fit 9's properly.
Yes you do :D
You can run wide-a$$ wheels at standard height and have no problems (spacing them out if they foul the coilover). Its when you drop the car you have problems and there is no point running deep dish wheels unless you got lows IMO. Grab a hammer and a dolly and whack your arches out; arch rollers are crap.
I shall be getting my hammer and dolly kit out very soon :D
are you running 9s all the way round? Cuz i want to run Borbet As 16x9 all the way round on the VR if i can? :evil:
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-ve camber might help your arches not to die.
Careful with wide wheels with an averageish offset with camber though because they might rub the coilies with too much camber.
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no need for hammer and dolly
this is the way forward :smiley:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvjQqjLa09U
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I got lens bsx 15inch et20 and my coils are on lowest possibleAnd I have the arches rolled and 5mm spacers and it's fine not alot of dish but looks sick
Mitch
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im sorry but this has got to be one stupid question.
if im right hes asking if the offset of the alloy would effect the visual dish size ..... dont know how anyone would not know it wouldnt.
if you want a big dished looked stay away from the common as f**k lensos.
im running hot tuning.
if your running anything more than 7j youl have to raise he car high enough for the wheels/tyres to be above the arches otherwise they will rub.
iv got 7j et 45 to go on and they will be run with spacers too so are going to be sticking out of the arches alot! but thats the look i want.
look for rial alloys on ebay... they always have a big dish.
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Why is it a stupid question? People don't learn anything if they don't ask! I couldn't understand why when looking at alloys you could get the same model 7.5j alloy with different offsets ie et20 and et38, the offset is the center of the rim to the face hub? So I thought a different offset would change the visual affect of the dish