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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: pid on 05 November 2010, 15:15

Title: newb questions
Post by: pid on 05 November 2010, 15:15
hi all,    newb on here.

i have just been offered a 1992 mk2 golf NOT a gti though a ,1600 cc, body work needs 2 new sills but not a problem as i work with a professional welder. rest of the car ok just failed the MOT on that but not bad for free!! 

im thinking of putting a 16v gti lump in (as i really wanted a 16v gti but cant afford one at the moment!!!)

anything i should know before taking the project on???

also after doing a quick internet search cant seam to find a 16v gti engine are they really hard to come by?

p.s sarcasm is my best friend

Title: Re: newb questions
Post by: Sam on 05 November 2010, 15:33
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mk2-Golf-GTi-16v-Engine-/190463455537?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2c5881b131#ht_500wt_1156

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/volkswagen-golf-mk2-gti-16v-engine-vw-/300485799845?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item45f6596fa5#ht_500wt_1156

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/mk2-golf-gti-16v-kr-engine-block-g60-20v-8v-/110607308006?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19c0b594e6#ht_500wt_1156

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-CORRADO-GOLF-MK2-GTI-16V-ENGINE-BLOCK-/330432917881?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4cef563179#ht_827wt_905

Title: Re: newb questions
Post by: Sam on 05 November 2010, 15:37
there is everything here

http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=pfsw&action=display&thread=86439

old post though
Title: Re: newb questions
Post by: pid on 05 November 2010, 15:50
thanks
 i was toying with the idea of a 20v turbo lump instead but would this be too much power as i will have to drive it now and again from the midlands to work in portsmouth.
Title: Re: newb questions
Post by: lemski on 12 November 2010, 19:31
Never to much power haha.
Title: Re: newb questions
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 12 November 2010, 20:10
Good for you. The starting point for any good Golf is a good shell.

All the rest is plug and play.

Title: Re: newb questions
Post by: pid on 12 November 2010, 20:37
 :grin:never to much power.

im putting the 1.8 20vt lump in now even if the insurance company will take all my hard earned pounds.  :cry:

then swap the sub frames for gti ones and deck the suspension  :grin:

cant wait to be on the road now!!!!!
Title: Re: newb questions
Post by: lemski on 12 November 2010, 20:40
Yeh am doin it to a mk1 after cristmas my 16v race engine just isn't quick enough haha. Good look with the conversion though.
Title: Re: newb questions
Post by: pid on 12 November 2010, 21:11
cheers buddy

im doing a skyline at the moment for a mate turning it into a drift tramp but cant wait for this golf to be finished already.  :smug:
Title: Re: newb questions
Post by: Wayne on 12 November 2010, 23:58
Why not drop a VR in it.
Title: Re: newb questions
Post by: lemski on 13 November 2010, 08:17
Nice haha. And hope to be able to see a thread about it
Title: Re: newb questions
Post by: pid on 13 November 2010, 09:49
a vr unit would be nice but im only 22 and have a few points (3) and a claim (im not at fault) going through at the moment i would never have enough money to insure it  :sad:

god dam insurance
Title: Re: newb questions
Post by: DarnPB on 13 November 2010, 10:22
I don't see the point of putting a GTI engine into a standard Golf when you can buy a GTI Golf. If you are going to do an engine swap, then make it one that does not come as standard. As already mentioned, 1.8 turbo, VR6 etc.
Also dont forget, you are putting in an engine to make it go, you also need to change things to make it stop so a brake upgrade is a must, plus having a high powered car with good stopping power needs suspention to be able to cope. See where I am going with this? If you are going to do a job, do it properly and be prepared to spend money. Money you said in your first post that you don't have. You need to plan a project like this.
Title: Re: newb questions
Post by: pid on 13 November 2010, 10:51
i hear u loud and clear!!!

after my first post i thought about it and have decided to go with a 1.8 20vt for that reason why faff about 'making' a gti when i could buy one u are very right.

and i have thought about the rest of the car suspension, brakes, clutch, gearbox, clocks and other bits!!

would i b silly in thinking that gti sub frames would be straight swap?

my friend (the welder) also does a lot of car work and has some parts already coilovers, brakes and bits.

Title: Re: newb questions
Post by: lemski on 13 November 2010, 11:42
Subframe is a straight swap from mk2s and 3s (mk3 if you wanted 288mm breaks)
Title: Re: newb questions
Post by: pid on 15 November 2010, 12:06
The mk3 same track with?
Title: Re: newb questions
Post by: rubjonny on 15 November 2010, 12:27
mk3 is wide track, but this is in the wishbones not the subframe. the engine mountings are different mk2 to mk3 as well, so you will also have to change the mounts, and the brackets that fit to engine/box. can swap just the wishbones to make car widetrack, mk3s fit straight on mk2 subframe. also need to change the shafts and the track rods.

brake wise can go up to 280 easily on mk2/3 4 stud bones, 288+ you need to do a 5stud swap for an easy bolt-on life.
Title: Re: newb questions
Post by: emery1990 on 15 November 2010, 15:26
Won't a 1.8t be more on the insurance though, than a vr? :undecided: lol. Or you keeping it a standard 150  :smug:
Title: Re: newb questions
Post by: pid on 15 November 2010, 19:50
Wow thanks rj.

Would the insurance bump it up coz the turbo???

For the mean time I'm thunk of keeping it off the road and tracking it as I'm not far from silverstone and stanta pod then when I get my promotion soon'ish (28-29k a yr!!!) then I'll b able to afford to have to road cars or mayb a new toy by then!!  :smiley:
Title: Re: newb questions
Post by: emery1990 on 16 November 2010, 16:50
Not if its low bhp, they come in 150bhp 180bhp 210 and 225 bhp the later two are basically the same, both remap the same etc, where as the first too are different turbos. Id go for the 180bhp one, cant remember the codes it comes in, AGU is one of them.

Title: Re: newb questions
Post by: pid on 16 November 2010, 17:22
That's the engine code I'm looking for the AGU which I think is the 180bhp one!!

I'm picking up the car next wk now can't wait to start striping it down and start the project!!