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General => Shows, events, track days, motorsport => Topic started by: JamesW on 28 October 2010, 19:30
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New for 2011 Mk3 Golf GTI & TDI race series, it's going to be run my the same people as the Mk2 Golf & VAG thropy.
More info at http://www.clubgti.com/FORUM/showthread.php?t=224797
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Awesome, I wanna get involved!!
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Thats all my spare cash gone now then :laugh:
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Thats all my spare cash gone now then :laugh:
You gonna go for it then, Paul? :cool:
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Thats all my spare cash gone now then :laugh:
You gonna go for it then, Paul? :cool:
I'm seriously tempted, but I haven't really got that amount of spare cash. £4000 car prep sounds ok but when you factor in race fees, racing gear, trailor, and a licence it gets a bit heavy for me at the moment. I am thinking it may be now or never though.
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I am thinking it may be now or never though.
This. Get on with it!
If I didn't have two small people hoovering up my spare cash it's a great reason to buy a skanky 16V
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Do it Paul! I'll be sure to check out a few rounds of this next season.
Nick
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What licence class would you need to participate in this? Just out of interest? :smiley:
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ARDS probably.
£250 touch IIRC
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Licence required is a National B licence.
Costs as far as i can see are:
1/2 day Ards course £275.00
Go racing starter pack £57.00
Medical certificate £90
Licence fee £51
Golf Racing Reg fee £75
Paul
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Cheers for that, I was having a little look into it earlier, it looks bloody expensive to get started. :undecided: At least its something to aim for, like I said in another post, ive got a voluntary thing coming up with a motorsport team and am starting marshalling, that will have to do me for now. :laugh:
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A couple of friends of mine race in the HSCC historic 70's roadsport series and they reckon it costs about £10k a year to race and their regs and costs are about the same as the Golf championship.
I can see it all adding up to that:
£1000 for licence and race gear.
£4000 to get the car sorted
£2000 ish for entry fees
£3000 for getting there and back and consumables.
Just got to find the other £9950 and break the news to the wife that I'm spending all her money :grin:
Paul
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:shocked: :shocked: :shocked: Good luck with that then mate! I was gonna get a mates business to sponsor me but he said that he'd only give about £2000 and that would be as a favour. Maybe I'll just start looking at track days, no pressure there. :undecided: What are the prizes in the golf gti champs? Is it big money or just trophies? I havent looked into that part.
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Would love to compete. Sounds like it could be a great category.
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What are the prizes in the golf gti champs? Is it big money or just trophies? I havent looked into that part.
It'll be trophies and glory - what virtually all motorsport is about - NOT money.
It's just having a laugh with your mates at a high level. :grin:
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DH is spot on with this, there's few race series you'll be doing for the money especially if you look to do it as a career. Mate of mine was the Clio Cup champion and has just won the Fiat Trofeo championship and even at this level the monetry rewards are miniscule compared to an outlay of 50-70k a year.
10k a year seems pretty good value for the amount of fun you'll be having plus you've still got the car, wish i had the time and funds to do this. I reckon if i take my little girl out of nursery i'd just about be there :grin:
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I guess that in the scheme of things 10k isnt alot of cash to pay out for a season of racing in a championship at all. It just seems it when you earn about 16k a year. :grin: :cry:
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If you purely in it for the fun factor and you don't have to be striving for the podium then the costs don't look so bad if you do more than one season. If the car is still in one piece then it's only the race entry fees and consumables, if the series get's a control tyre deal that i would have though the costs would be less than half the 10k laid out in the first year.
I really would love to start racing and i've at least promised myself to get a racing licence just for the fun, guess i'll see where it goes from there really. Maybe when the kids are a little older and i can con the other half that it would be a family day out :grin:
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I like your style - 'family day out'! :wink:
My first baby is due next week so it doesnt look like I'll be getting involved in the foreseeable future. Maybe in a few years though ay.
What I might be able to do is to buy a car and start prepping it, for track days or summat?! You done any racing before?
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If you're looking for cheap motorsport come to Brazil and enter in the Peugeot rally cup. You pay about 50,000 reais which is around 18K, and for that you get a brand new rally spec Pug 207 from Peugeot Brasil, transport of the car to and from every race of the season, the subscription to the season, all the FIA approved gear, special discount on all parts (tyres included) and a few other bits and bobs I can't remember.
It works out cheaper than a season of karting, and it's of higher level.
My dad and I are seriosuly thinking about doing it in the nearby future, all depends if his new business goes well (Outlook looks good!).
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If you're looking for cheap motorsport come to Brazil and enter in the Peugeot rally cup. You pay about 50,000 reais which is around 18K, and for that you get a brand new rally spec Pug 207 from Peugeot Brasil, transport of the car to and from every race of the season, the subscription to the season, all the FIA approved gear, special discount on all parts (tyres included) and a few other bits and bobs I can't remember.
It works out cheaper than a season of karting, and it's of higher level.
My dad and I are seriosuly thinking about doing it in the nearby future, all depends if his new business goes well (Outlook looks good!).
Er I think the cost of flights might well ruin the cheapness of that and you also have to drive a pug, urrrrgh.
nick
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I dunno man, Id love to do it! :laugh:
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If you're looking for cheap motorsport come to Brazil and enter in the Peugeot rally cup. You pay about 50,000 reais which is around 18K, and for that you get a brand new rally spec Pug 207 from Peugeot Brasil, transport of the car to and from every race of the season, the subscription to the season, all the FIA approved gear, special discount on all parts (tyres included) and a few other bits and bobs I can't remember.
It works out cheaper than a season of karting, and it's of higher level.
My dad and I are seriosuly thinking about doing it in the nearby future, all depends if his new business goes well (Outlook looks good!).
Er I think the cost of flights might well ruin the cheapness of that and you also have to drive a pug, urrrrgh.
nick
My step brother works for TAM, and I'm down as his brother so get ultra cheap flights :smiley:
The pug part DOES suck though. I got a pic of it from the car show I went to earlier in the month, it's not uploaded though, but this is the website
http://www.copapeugeot.com.br/ (http://www.copapeugeot.com.br/)
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Have i done any racing before, sort of when i was younger in a Lancia Beta Coupe, ended in tears when a seized rear caliper proved greater than the sum of my talent and promptly spat me into the wall side on at 60mph exiting St Marys/Lavant corner. Got the pics somewhere, it hit the wall with enough force to stamp the tread patterns of the tyres in the wall :grin:
I can laugh about it now but it sodding hurt at the time as i dislodged several vertebrae and broke my collar bone.
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So for cheap motorsport, move to a second world country?
You are outstandingly misguided at times.
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Is racing progression is high up on the priority list then i would have thought you'd do well to start in the Caterham Roadsport series.
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Got the draft regulation in for this today and it will probably be too much for me to consider this year. A quick look would involve the following work:
6 point roll cage
Fire extinguisher system
Cut out switches
Put standard arb's back on
Get and put standard suspension back on
Get and put standard top mounts on
Replace poly windows with the original glass ones
Re-install window operating mechanisms
Get and fit original wing mirrors
Get and replace lightened flywheel with standard one
Get and replace standard throttle body
Get and replace standard airbox system
Remove brake and airbox cold air feeds.
None of my standard wheels fit into their wheel offset sizes allowed (even though they are original)
Rear seat brackets have been removed from my shell and this isn't allowed.
Some of my flloor bungs have been repaired and this isn't allowed.
Replace drilled and grooved discs with standard ones.
Buy and fit control cams
Buy control tyres
New seat and harness.
Not the end of the world but a backward step in the development of the car.
So for that reason - I'm out :laugh: (at the moment)
Paul
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You could always just buy another MKIII 16v and have 2! It's not like they're expensive at the moment! :grin:
Nick
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Thats actually a good idea! Certainly easier/cheaper than removing and replacing all the stuff that youve already done to yours! :laugh:
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Thats actually a good idea! Certainly easier/cheaper than removing and replacing all the stuff that youve already done to yours! :laugh:
It would certainly make sense, but already owning three cars my wife would probably hack off my nads with a blunt pair of scissors if I turned up with another one at the moment :angry:
Paul
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ummm this is intresting. really intresting plan formingly intresting.
buy a shonky mk3 16v. apply pixie dust and play bumpercars. it'd be awsome motorsport and destroying mk3 golfs at the same time :grin:
as the cordoba is parked up engine less and isn't going to be running with a 2ltr again as ABF''s of a competive speck cost lots and preping a mk3 chould well be cheeper than building a competitive 1.6 or 1.4 engine for the cordoba
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Got the draft regulation in for this today and it will probably be too much for me to consider this year. A quick look would involve the following work:
6 point roll cage
Fire extinguisher system
Cut out switches
Buy and fit control cams
Buy control tyres
New seat and harness.
Put the rest back to standard.
:grin:
It's a bit of a fecker, isn't it?
But then it's designed to be cheap entry (matron) so it's a 'go out and buy a shonky Golf3' effort really, isn't it?
Let's face it, it's finishing a sh*t car off in a proper way.
If I didn't have two small children who were eating all my money I'd be there like a shot. :grin:
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Just like elephants...it's where MK3's go to die. :grin:
For one day, let them live like lions.
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I got this image of a mk3 testing at silverstone emailed to me yesterday -
(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i132/snifferdog18233/mk32.jpg)
Looks like fun!
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Don't think it's a championship car, if it is then it's got a LONG way to go with the prep!
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For a start it doesnt have a cage....
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The email -
Hi All,
I've attached a photo of one of the first Mk3s testing at Silverstone above - great to see one out on track !.
The car in question is a 16V which Ian Carvell has started work on - as you see it here it is partly stripped of the interior and has uprated suspension - the car will be completed over the next couple of months. Even with 150,000 miles behind it Ian commented that the engine still felt strong !.
Feedback on other builds would be appreciated, also any questions you may have.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Kind regards,
On behalf of the committee,
John.
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as you see it here it is partly stripped of the interior and has uprated suspension - the car will be completed over the next couple of months. Even with 150,000 miles behind it Ian commented that the engine still felt strong
Errrr, uprated suspension? New standard more like IIRC for a brief cruise through the regs. :wink:
Got a lot way to go with the prep if he's just taken out some trim and re-bushed/replaced the dampers on the suspension. :grin:
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16 v don't tend to go lame in the high miles but it'll still need rebuilding if it ever wants to win anything
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The guy doing that mk3 builds race cars for a living so don't think he will have much trouble sorting it in time :)
think that one is going to be avaiable to hire for races too.
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think that one is going to be avaiable to hire for races too.
Excellent - no need for it to be competitive then..... :grin: