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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Steve30 on 27 October 2010, 14:48

Title: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Steve30 on 27 October 2010, 14:48
Can some tell me the procedure to fit a new fuel filter please guys on my GTD thanks Steve  :undecided:
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Horney on 27 October 2010, 14:52
At a guess you need to pull the hoses off, remove, insert new one, attach hoses and then crank dat ting till it fills the filter and fires up. Did this on my TDI Polo on sunday.

Nick
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 27 October 2010, 15:06
I'm more suprised that you need one.... :undecided:

why are you changing so soon?
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Steve30 on 27 October 2010, 15:07
Which hoses there are loads of them? Thanks
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Steve30 on 27 October 2010, 15:08
I'm more suprised that you need one.... :undecided:

why are you changing so soon?

I put bloody petrol in by mistake on sunday, nightmare
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Horney on 27 October 2010, 15:10
Get us a pic of your engine bay. Should be canister type thing with 4 hoses on.

Nick
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Steve30 on 27 October 2010, 15:12
Get us a pic of your engine bay. Should be canister type thing with 4 hoses on.

Nick

Yes there is, ive seen that , but those clips are difficult to get off?
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 27 October 2010, 15:18
Oh ok, makes sense now.

There are usually at least 3, one is from the tank, one go's to the pump, and the other returns back to tank. There could be another one with is a water drain off. Fortunately you don't have to worry about them being pressurised, and this doesn't happen until the fuel hits the pump.

They are usually mounted on the bulkhead on the back left (as you look at the bay) although they could have moved it, as I haven't seen a mk6 engine bay, but it is pretty distinctive.

something like this i would imagine...

(http://media.photobucket.com/image/vw%20gtd%20fuel%20filter/burnyourmoney/MVC-505F.jpg)
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Rhyso on 27 October 2010, 15:23
Can't view Slick's pic so I might be re-posting

Assuming the MK6 engine is similar to the 170bhp engine in the A3 then its the bottom left hand corner of the picture as you look at it

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/Rhyso/Audi%20A3/IMG_2015.jpg)



Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Horney on 27 October 2010, 15:30
Get us a pic of your engine bay. Should be canister type thing with 4 hoses on.

Nick

Yes there is, ive seen that , but those clips are difficult to get off?

Unless they've changed the spring clip design you can get them off with a pair of long nose pliers or even better a pair of mole grips.

Nick
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Steve30 on 27 October 2010, 15:45
(http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/zz206/Rolex62/GTDenginebay.jpg) here you go guys
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Horney on 27 October 2010, 15:49
Yeah easy.

Mark em up so you remember which one goes where. Open the clip with pliers/mole grips (Squeeze the raised bits towards each other), wiggle it up the pipe and let go. Now you can pull the pipe off (Put some rag underneath to catch any spillage).

Refitting is the reverse of removal.

Nick
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 27 October 2010, 15:49
That's the one, bottom left, 4 hoses. In theory you should be able to just undo the screws on the top and then move the lot out the way. Replace the paper element and put it all back. However, it would probably be easier to pop the hoses off too, they are easily released little spring clips.

Once it's all back together, as Horne said, turn the engine over, it won't fire immediately as the filter will need to fill, oh and it might be worth getting some millers diesel additive as well, just to give it that little extra clean through the bits you cannot reach.
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Steve30 on 27 October 2010, 15:54
So thats the 5 screws on top ? Can I not just leave the pipes alone and just take out the screws? Thanks chaps
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 27 October 2010, 16:03
Aye, those ones.

the problem you might find you have if you don't release the pipes is that it will drag the filter out at an angle too shallow to allow you remove it properly and it will get wedged. Hence my comment of unclipping will be more simple.

Oh and as you filled it with petrol make sure you get a new O ring for it, and whilst you are there, you might as well just check to make sure the water reservior at the bottom is nice and clean.
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Horney on 27 October 2010, 16:04
Ah. I'm blind. Didn't even notice the screws.

Have you got the raplcement filter already and is it just a paper element? If so then you should just be able to open it up by unding the screws and swapping the filter elelement inside over. On mine you had to replace the whole metal unit.

Nick
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Steve30 on 27 October 2010, 16:05
 this maybe a better picture can see it more clear on top? (http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/zz206/Rolex62/CanisterGTD.jpg)
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: JC on 27 October 2010, 16:07
your giving spannering advice to a spanner who put the green nozzle  into his dark pump  machine  :shocked: :lipsrsealed:


Whats the worst that could happen ?

 :grin:
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Horney on 27 October 2010, 16:09
From that pic I reckon if you unclip the hoses from their mounts further back you should have enough slack/wiggle room to not have to take them off the top of the filter.

nick
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Steve30 on 27 October 2010, 16:09
your giving spannering advice to a spanner who put the green nozzle  into his dark pump  machine  :shocked: :lipsrsealed:


Whats the worst that could happen ?

 :grin:
I new Chuff would be along  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: JC on 27 October 2010, 16:12
your giving spannering advice to a spanner who put the green nozzle  into his dark pump  machine  :shocked: :lipsrsealed:


Whats the worst that could happen ?

 :grin:
I new Chuff would be along  :laugh: :laugh:

got invited  :grin: :laugh:

do you drink doctor pepper.

bring it to me, i will do it for ya  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Steve30 on 27 October 2010, 16:14
^^^^^  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 27 October 2010, 16:16
From that pic I reckon if you unclip the hoses from their mounts further back you should have enough slack/wiggle room to not have to take them off the top of the filter.

nick

I would be suprised, they are only routers/pipe tidies, not actual mounts. Plus one of the pipes is going to the pump under the engine cover.
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Horney on 27 October 2010, 16:22
Well he can give it a go and if it isn't enough, whip the pipes off.

Nick
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 27 October 2010, 16:23
Indeed.
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: JC on 27 October 2010, 16:30
or just pay to have it done - he can afford a mk6 after all  :rolleyes:

 :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Steve30 on 27 October 2010, 16:34
or just pay to have it done - he can afford a mk6 after all  :rolleyes:

 :lipsrsealed:

Indeed i do Chuff but was told its a 5 min job  :grin:
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: mike. on 27 October 2010, 18:19
Here is the workshop procedure if that helps  :smiley:


Remove engine cover panel

Removing:
Caution
Do NOT pull fuel hoses off fuel filter cover and do NOT lever at connection. Otherwise, leaks will occur and the upper part of the fuel filter can be damaged.
Ensure that no diesel fuel contacts other components in the engine compartment. Clean immediately, if necessary.

 
Carry out the following procedure:
–   Unscrew all bolts -arrows- from upper part of fuel filter and remove upper part of fuel filter.
 
(http://www.thewindinglane.co.uk/images/mk6gti/dff/ff1.jpg)

If the upper part of fuel filter is stuck, loosen as follows:
The upper part of the fuel filter can be raised at assembly groove -arrow A- using angled screwdriver -VAS 6543-.
The assembly groove can be of different size, depending on the type of upper part.
Insert appropriate side of angled screwdriver -VAS 6543- in assembly groove -arrow A- and turn angled screwdriver -VAS 6543-.
Then the upper part of the fuel filter is raised.

(http://www.thewindinglane.co.uk/images/mk6gti/dff/ff2.jpg)

Take filter -3- out of lower part of fuel filter.
 
(http://www.thewindinglane.co.uk/images/mk6gti/dff/ff3.jpg)

Remove old seal -2- from upper part of fuel filter -1- by levering seal out of respective groove -arrow-.

Caution
Remove all diesel, dirt and water residues from lower part of fuel filter


(http://www.thewindinglane.co.uk/images/mk6gti/dff/ff4.jpg)


Installing:
–   Insert new filter into lower part of fuel filter.

–   Moisten new seal -1- lightly with diesel fuel and insert into upper part of fuel filter -arrows-.
–   Place upper part of fuel filter with seal properly onto lower part of fuel filter, press on firmly and evenly until the upper part of fuel filter is correctly seated.
  Caution
Do NOT tighten bolts for upper part, before it is correctly seated onto lower part.
 
(http://www.thewindinglane.co.uk/images/mk6gti/dff/ff5.jpg)

–   Screw all bolts into lower part of fuel filter and tighten hand-tight.
–   Then tighten bolts to 5 Nm according to sequence shown in illustration -arrows-.

Caution
This procedure prevents the seal from being damaged.

 
(http://www.thewindinglane.co.uk/images/mk6gti/dff/ff6.jpg)


 


Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Steve30 on 27 October 2010, 22:08
Excellent post mike and thanks to the others for there info brilliant Steve :cool:
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Rhyso on 28 October 2010, 08:24
Have now created a how-to and put it into the maintenance section for future reference

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=170771.0

Nice one mike. :afro:
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Snoopy on 28 October 2010, 19:18
Mikes posted the books step by step that the clever people @ VW use so if you still cannot do it im worried  :grin:
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Steve30 on 28 October 2010, 21:49
Don't be worried mate  :laugh: it's in safe hands  :laugh:
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: berg81 on 10 June 2015, 10:28
Bit of a thread revival going on but.....

My mk6 2.0 TDI is due a service, I've only had the car a few months so this is the first time for my mate (he always serviced my cars) doing a CR engine.

When I've been looking on line I've found a few people saying the fuel filter needs priming using VCDS, is this right or will this guide be ok?

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Keithuk on 21 June 2015, 02:47
I changed my fuel filter last year its straight forward with VCDS. My GTD Fuel Filter Change (http://www.volkswagenforum.co.uk/f50/my-gtd-fuel-filter-change-10966.html#post37623)
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: AntGTD on 21 June 2015, 18:09
no priming needed :)
Title: Re: Fuel Filter for GTD
Post by: Mattyj on 18 July 2015, 18:41
Cba to read all the quotes but it seems no one has a clue its easy mate take those 5 torx 30 screws out prise up under the small tab cut out take filter out put new one in then swap the o ring done