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Title: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Horney on 21 October 2010, 13:08
So the Golf GTI champs have been wrapped up, although there is the matter of a champion of champions race to be organised.

After that it's time for sorting out the VAG Trophy series and here is a thread for discussions about getting this up and running.

So far I think we're agreed on:

* Same racing rules as the Golf Champ
* Single make and model champ with the cars standard

So the floors open to discuss the above as well as which circuits, number of laps (I was thinking maybe make them a bit longer) etc etc. Go for it!

Nick
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Stronz on 21 October 2010, 14:09
Well, in terms of tracks, I would like to see Tsukba circuit make a return (both short and long) along with Catalunya.

In terms of cars, perhaps we could all do our own liveries again, this time adding our championship position from the last series ot our cars, so Slick would get the glory of rolling with a big fat 1 on his car? Doesn't actually add much in terms of racing, but adds a nice touch?
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: JC on 21 October 2010, 14:13
GOTTA do one lap of the Ring too  :grin:

Stick me down :afro:
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Dolly on 21 October 2010, 14:15
im in, hopefully ill have more competition this time (as in opponents)
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: JC on 21 October 2010, 15:01
Stick slick down too :afro:
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: gjroe78 on 21 October 2010, 15:09
I'm up for it, i'll put the dates on my phone this time though  :laugh:
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Stronz on 21 October 2010, 15:46
Oh yeah, forgot to say I'm game for another go. Thought that was a given, but just to make sure!

I am happy to drop down a league though if its over subscribed.
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 21 October 2010, 16:12
It's definately got to be standard cars. The competition is so much closer instead of having people (me) running away with it.

I like the idea of a livery showing your previous position. Like a tour de france golden jersey.

I'm in.

Tracks....

Ring
Sebring
Tsukuba
Cataluna
Sunset Valley
Laguna Seca


At least.
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 21 October 2010, 16:15
Go on then!  I'm in.

Jonathan.
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Stronz on 21 October 2010, 16:19
Laguna Seca - good call!
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: JC on 21 October 2010, 16:26
so runners so far

1, Horney
2, Chuff
3, Slick
4, Dolly
5, Stronz
6, Gjroe
7, elvi

and we got to have him for entertainment value

8 - Demolition Dell

 :grin:
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Stronz on 21 October 2010, 16:38

and we got to have him for entertainment value constant microphone whingeing

8 - Demolition Dell

 :grin:

Fixed  :wink:


 :grin:
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 21 October 2010, 16:41
Can we have Maple Valley Raceway. 

Its my favourite.

Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Horney on 21 October 2010, 16:56
I'm glad everyone is still up for this, gonna be awesome!

Demolition Dell - :grin:

Nick
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 21 October 2010, 18:25
(http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr182/the_flying_elvi/demolitionDell.png)
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: JC on 21 October 2010, 20:11
real tears - my kids think i have lost the plot

 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: GrandMstRamRod on 22 October 2010, 10:52
any room for any more!
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: AlanD on 22 October 2010, 11:32
I'm not fussed about the tracks. I do however think we need to implement a strict standard car only policy as I think it will make the racing much better. I know we all had Class B cars but they were all tuned differently with some being better off the line, others handle better, others were faster and in my case I had dodgy steering on mine :shocked: As we all know from F1 if we all have the same car then the racing will be better (a la S5 race we had the other day).

Whats peoples thought on punishments for being a total dick as I felt pretty bad for taking out Chuff the other night and pretty much ruining his race (obviously I didn't do it on purpose but it was still my fault). I think we should all be man enough to actually own up and take a time penalty?

Also does anyone know how to sort the order out on the grid? Seems to be a bit random at the moment. Could have qualifying?

lmao @ that picture Elvi :D :D :D :D - How about one for ultimate tag virus champion world record holder?
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: JC on 22 October 2010, 11:48
I wouldnt worry alan, and to be fair it didnt have ANY effect on the Final Champ positions so wasnt a problem despite you doing it TWICE   :wink:

Komenda took me out in another race, and  slowed down and let me back thru - thus no problemo again :afro:

The 8 named on the list are all gents and so the right thing will be done as a given IMHO  :cool:

But 110% agree - bog standard car - no mods - well apart from colour change - but this can be ENFORCED on race set up page  :smug:
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Stronz on 22 October 2010, 12:16
Yeah agree - if it is a genuine racing incident, we are all in the same frame of mind to know when we are in the wrong. In none of the races did anyone intentionally do anything to any other driver.

Agree on the standard car front - but will we be able to do limited tuning on the stock car parts (tyre pressures make a big difference imo)
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: AlanD on 22 October 2010, 13:44
will we be able to do limited tuning on the stock car parts (tyre pressures make a big difference imo)

I think we should leave them.
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 22 October 2010, 14:19
+1.

Out the box stock. Same for everyone.

Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Horney on 22 October 2010, 14:33
I don't think you can force a restiction on tyre pressures etc but if we can then maybe we should.

Nick
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 22 October 2010, 18:42
I think you can force stock tuning on.
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Winso on 22 October 2010, 19:32
Count me in for this too please folks!
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Horney on 25 October 2010, 18:50
I've had a thought ( I know, I know, not that common!). For a fixed car how about the Audi S4 Touring car?

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4073/4959144679_a7d412676b_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nickhorne/4959144679/)
Audi S3 Touring Car (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nickhorne/4959144679/) by Nicholas R Horne (http://www.flickr.com/people/nickhorne/), on Flickr

I think everyone should be able to get this car and then change the livery to a personal one. That way we're all driving a car that is a proper track orientated car that will be nice and quick, handle well but still set as as "stock".

Nick
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: JC on 25 October 2010, 18:52
will have a look later and see if i can get it,

trial run later perhaps ?
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Horney on 25 October 2010, 18:53
Sounds like a plan Mr Chuff :cool:
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: AlanD on 25 October 2010, 20:20
What time you gayers going to be on there? Ill give it a few races if its a sensible time.
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Winso on 25 October 2010, 20:21
Good choice Nick. What class is it?
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: JC on 25 October 2010, 20:21
What time you gayers going to be on there? Ill give it a few races if its a sensible time.

9pm  :wink:
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: AlanD on 25 October 2010, 20:29
See you then chaps.

Am I right in saying its the 2002 Champion S4 Competition car that cost £150,000 ?
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Horney on 25 October 2010, 20:29
I probs won't be on till 10.

Nick
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: JC on 25 October 2010, 20:31
we should just be soted by t hen nick  :laugh:
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Adam on 25 October 2010, 20:32
See you then chaps.

Am I right in saying its the 2002 Champion S4 Competition car that cost £150,000 ?

Hope thats the right one :grin: Im game will loose badly mind.
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: JC on 25 October 2010, 20:34
just going on now  :wink:
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: AlanD on 25 October 2010, 20:38
Chuff, is that the one I need? Dont wanna spend £150,000 on the wrong car.
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: AlanD on 25 October 2010, 20:39
Its class S.
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Winso on 25 October 2010, 20:39
Hit me up if you're about guys. I've had enough of racing idiot mouthy yanks this week. If I had £1 for every time I've been called a 'faaaaaaaag' I'd be minted.
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Stronz on 25 October 2010, 21:01
Might be on about 10ish too - need a spooks fix first  :cool:
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: AlanD on 25 October 2010, 21:02
Loser, thats what the iPlayer is for !
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Stronz on 25 October 2010, 21:04
I've got V+, its even worse... :grin:

Just dont want a late night thats all - still shattered from the weekend
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Horney on 25 October 2010, 22:00
Spooks was awesome, building up to a big finale me thinks.

Anyhoo I'll be on in 5 mins.

Nick
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Stronz on 27 October 2010, 21:32
Just gave the S4 a blast - great car from stock (was quite surprised actually). Managed to get consistent 59 second laps around Mugello short circuit. Had a bash at a livery too:

(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9775/forza1.jpg) (http://img225.imageshack.us/i/forza1.jpg/)

I can post the template for the number to my store front if anyone else wants it (would just need to add you champ number). It would be free of course. On the back, I also have a black cross on a yellow background to show inexperienced racers if anyone *cough Alan* wants it  :grin:
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: JC on 27 October 2010, 21:34
ooops - shame we are using R8s now  :lipsrsealed:


 :grin:


 :laugh:
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Stronz on 27 October 2010, 21:36
ooops - shame we are using R8s now  :lipsrsealed:


 :grin:


 :laugh:


Ahhhhh f*!# it.......... :grin:

Which R8 are we using?
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Horney on 27 October 2010, 21:49
Me you can race these Stronz, R8's aren't my cup of tea.

Nick
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: JC on 27 October 2010, 21:49
R8 group and a S4 group  :grin:
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 28 October 2010, 11:18
So are we actually doing this then or what?

Yes I'm bored of sitting around just reading about it, and quite liked the S4's tbh. R8's were a little pony in my opinion.


Oh and how about (keeping it vag) a bugatti race around le mans le sarthe circuit? say 3 laps?
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: JC on 28 October 2010, 11:20
time n place then - is shall be there - any car to be honest - I still wont win  :laugh:
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Horney on 28 October 2010, 11:22
Cool, lets go for the S4's ( I found that you need to brake earlier but you get a mighty exit speed when doing this).

I'm out tonight but Friday/weekend I'll set up some dates and circuits like the other champ.

The Veyron race sounds like a plan for a season Finale!

Nick
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Horney on 28 October 2010, 11:33
So thinking about this.

We happy to go for the same wednesday @ 9pm format? I feel this is probably best as Mrs Horney is used to it and upsetting her routine can be lethal. :grin:

Also, race distances. Were they long enough or do peeps feel that longer races would allow for the chnace of more recovery from an error/crash? I personally felt they were a little short, but I'm not up for 30 lap marathons either. There is the option int he settings for timed races so we could 10 mins for short and 15 for long or something like that. Your thought folks?

Circuits will have to be those available to all but I think we should introduce some new ones and drop a couple of others (I vote dropping silverstone for a start!). Again thought on this?

Would be good to get it up and running for the first race next wednesday.

nick
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 28 October 2010, 11:42
Deffo needs more laps.

My choice would be thus:

Force Stock - No mods WHAT SO EVER
ABS and choice of shifting only.
Uniform paint with numbers (not sure how to determine who gets what)
Simulated everything, damage, tyres, fuel

Tracks:
Sebring
Seca
Road America
Sunset Peninsula
Sedona Raceway
Cataluna
One of the sidewinder tracks?

possibly a few more, and not in that order perhaps, plus maybe some in reverse to mix it up?
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: JC on 28 October 2010, 11:44
you can stuff uniform paint - Team smirnoff WILL be running as is under number 13  :smiley:
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Horney on 28 October 2010, 11:48
All sounds great Slick apart from I agree with Chuff re the paint. But we should have uniform door numbers and everyone carry the Golf GTI.co.uk logo. Kinda like in real racing where you can chose your paint scheme but some sponsorship and official decals are set.

Nick
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Horney on 28 October 2010, 11:50
Oh and you can chose any number, but you (slick) get number 1 due to winning the last champ.

nick
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: JC on 28 October 2010, 11:52
All sounds great Slick apart from I agree with Chuff re the paint. But we should have uniform door numbers and everyone carry the Golf GTI.co.uk logo. Kinda like in real racing where you can chose your paint scheme but some sponsorship and official decals are set.Nick

now thats getting a bit carried away  :laugh: :grin:

 :kiss:
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Horney on 28 October 2010, 11:54
Nah it's easy enough, everyone already has the GTI one and all someone has to do is knock up a door number template and pop it in their storefront.

ClubGTI run a league and they stipulate exactly where on the car the many different logos have to be placed! Now that is getting carried away/anal about it.
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Stronz on 28 October 2010, 12:16
All sounds great Slick apart from I agree with Chuff re the paint. But we should have uniform door numbers and everyone carry the Golf GTI.co.uk logo. Kinda like in real racing where you can chose your paint scheme but some sponsorship and official decals are set.

Nick

+1

I will upload the template I did last night (unless there are any objections or it is deemed pants) if it helps. I used a 6 on my car as that is where I finished in the last championship.

I would also argue that the S4 (being a tuned car already) allows for some fine tuning of the parts it comes with, and therefore, if people want to experiment, they should be allowed. At the end of the day, they are not going to be able to gain extra ponies and potentially have as much chance of making the handling worse as they do make it better.

Agree on ditching Silverstone too.

Race lengths being timed sounds good too.
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Stronz on 28 October 2010, 12:17
Oh, I also have the forum logo on my storefront, and have the URL typed out in white font (can change colour to black / whatever). I will upload that too (all free)

Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Horney on 28 October 2010, 13:10
Good work dude!

nick
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: JC on 28 October 2010, 13:13
If you are forcing mods off then nowt can be done.

Only way to be sure no one is cheating  :evil:
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Horney on 28 October 2010, 13:15
If you are forcing mods off then nowt can be done.

Only way to be sure no one is cheating  :evil:

I'm not sure if forcing off mods stops you from loading a tuning setup like tyre pressures, toe in etc. I think it does but would need to check.

Nick
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Stronz on 28 October 2010, 13:16
If you are forcing mods off then nowt can be done.

Only way to be sure no one is cheating  :evil:

Thats fair enough, just thought I would raise my point. Did also assume we were all honest, fair playing gents too.
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: JC on 28 October 2010, 13:17
Are we fcuk - some of us are in circles you know  :grin: :smug:
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 28 October 2010, 13:52
iirc you can force off upgrades.

P.S pull your finger out and choose a car & setup.

So much for the circle.

Pi55 up and Brewery spring to mind.

 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: AlanD on 28 October 2010, 18:19
Did also assume we were all honest, fair playing gents too.

PAH !!! AAAHAHAHAHA :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Dolly on 28 October 2010, 18:27
ill get on forza this weekend, i need to raise some cash to buy the S4  :drool:
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: JC on 28 October 2010, 18:29
i can gift u one if needs be  :wink:
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Dolly on 28 October 2010, 19:32
that would be easier for me  :grin:
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: JC on 28 October 2010, 19:35
that would be easier for me  :grin:

will be going online later, i will see if i can work out how too  :wink:
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: JC on 28 October 2010, 20:59
should be sent  :wink:

anyone on tonight ?
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Toby on 28 October 2010, 21:02
im up for  GO CHUFF :D il be on in 5 just to put myu free 48 hour trial in :d

Add me Hawkinzuk
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: AlanD on 28 October 2010, 21:08
Im MW2ing tonight mate.
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Stronz on 28 October 2010, 21:13
Might be on much later - 11ish???
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Dolly on 28 October 2010, 21:49
Im MW2ing tonight mate.

any good, i need someone decent on my team.
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: JC on 30 October 2010, 09:17
right, wife free night - practice anyone  ?
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: AlanD on 30 October 2010, 09:19
Its Halloween tonight mate. You gotta dress up and chase kids about . . . or is that just me?
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: JC on 30 October 2010, 09:24
father of 5, youngest is 15 soon, i done enough of that sh1te thanks  :wink:
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: AlanD on 30 October 2010, 09:25
hahaha ! Zombie pirate for me tonight.
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Winso on 30 October 2010, 17:25
I know it has nothing to do with VAG stuff but I just had a 8 car online race with all standard Ford RS 200s. Seriously good sideways fun, we need to try it sometime.
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Horney on 31 October 2010, 13:44
League I thread is up!

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=171079.0

Can the original runners in League I confirm they wish to run this league. If not I will offer up the places to others.

Only the first race is in there, can we have a good discussion this week as to what the other circuits should be?

Nick
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Dolly on 31 October 2010, 13:47
looks like im not included again   :sad:   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Horney on 31 October 2010, 13:48
You were in league II though yeah?

Nick
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Dolly on 31 October 2010, 14:16
all 3 of us  :laugh:
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: Horney on 31 October 2010, 14:19
Well if anyone pulls out you got first dibs on the space.

nick
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: JC on 31 October 2010, 14:25
I am in
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: AlanD on 31 October 2010, 14:31
Me 2.
Title: Re: Forza 3 VAG Trophy - The Official Thread
Post by: JC on 09 November 2010, 18:27
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=171984.0