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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: Okram on 09 October 2010, 16:07

Title: Start up problem!?!
Post by: Okram on 09 October 2010, 16:07: Unexpected problem (mk3 gti), the car will not start.
While driving the car it just died out and did not start again, even when towing.
What I saw was that the RPM indicator was not working on towing with gear and on starting before I killed my battery.
Do you have recommendations on what could be possible errors.

tnx
Title: Re: Start up problem!?!
Post by: rubjonny on 11 October 2010, 11:00: sounds like crank sensor failure to me, what engine code is it
Title: Re: Start up problem!?!
Post by: Okram on 12 October 2010, 12:20: 2E/ABA/AGG GTI 2.0
1984 cc
4cyl   Petrol
115 PS (85 kW; 113 hp) @5400 rpm   166 NÂ·m (122 lbÂ·ft) @3200 rpm
Title: Re: Start up problem!?!
Post by: rubjonny on 12 October 2010, 15:21: that doesnt help, you've listed 2 different euro MK3 GTI engine codes there plus a US MK3 engine code :grin:
Title: Re: Start up problem!?!
Post by: Okram on 12 October 2010, 17:07: well I dont know where else to find it, because sticker on timing belt cover is unreadable.
Maybe there is help by error codes

01249
01250
01251
01252
&
00513
Title: Re: Start up problem!?!
Post by: sharki786 on 12 October 2010, 17:49: picture of engine will help
Title: Re: Start up problem!?!
Post by: dom on 12 October 2010, 18:33: Sticker under carpet in boot should have the engine code on it :wink:
Title: Re: Start up problem!?!
Post by: Okram on 12 October 2010, 19:01: (http://okram.biz/8.JPG)
Title: Re: Start up problem!?!
Post by: dom on 12 October 2010, 19:14: That looks like an AGG to me.

(http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy183/codling1234/1.jpg)

Few things:

1. Whats that on top of the suspension strut?

2. Those wires shouldn't be exposed like that.

3. Is that a drinks bottle? :undecided:
Title: Re: Start up problem!?!
Post by: Okram on 12 October 2010, 19:31: Quote from: dom069 on 12 October 2010, 19:14
That looks like an AGG to me.

Few things:

1. Whats that on top of the suspension strut?

2. Those wires shouldn't be exposed like that.

3. Is that a drinks bottle? :undecided:

1. there is nothing light makes you see something?

2. your right these wires are LPG ground and I should do something with these wires

3. :D
Title: Re: Start up problem!?!
Post by: rubjonny on 13 October 2010, 10:42: yeah thats an ady or agg lump, which means it has a crank sensor. you'll find it buried right down the bottom of the block next to the gearbox, need to put jack under engine and remove the front engine mount bracket to get to it. check the wiring from it, by now the wiring will likely be all brittle with bare wires hanging out. plenty other things it could be though, ecu relay, coil (unlikely since rev counter no move)

does the pump prime when you turn the key 1 click?

00513 - Engine Speed Sensor - G28 - Idle RPM Too Low B (crank sensor)
01249 - Cylinder 1 - Injector Fault -N30 D
01250 - Cylinder 2 - Injector Fault -N31 D
01251 - Cylinder 3 - Injector Fault -N32 D
01252 - Cylinder 4 - Injector Fault -N33 D

looks like you have a wiring issue, maybe the round plug on the engine is loose? look for anything that's obviously broken. however could be these faults are old, did you clear them then see what comes back? oih i see you mention lpg, maybe that's got something to do with the injector faults logged above...

dom069: those are std MK3 GTI upper strut retaining cups :)
Title: Re: Start up problem!?!
Post by: Okram on 13 October 2010, 17:21: Just arrived from work, I'm going to take care of him now. Thanks so far.
Title: Re: Start up problem!?!
Post by: Okram on 13 October 2010, 20:20: Today I bought a new coil and the car started. Computer shows clean page as well.
Thanks rubjonny for you replies.