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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Hartside on 24 September 2010, 16:18
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Just been reading an interesting thread in the mk5 section:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=166202.0
Been out to look at my 17" tyres and they have no XL marking on them but are W rated, which are speed rated up to 168mph. As they are original fitment I guess something has changed from what the mk5 guys are saying.
On the subject of Winter tyres, what do you guys reckon. I was thinking about buying V rated tyres, which I thought would be more than adequate. Do they need to be XL versions of the V rated tyre, or would V rated be good enough? :undecided:
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Just been reading an interesting thread in the mk5 section:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=166202.0
Been out to look at my 17" tyres and they have no XL marking on them but are W rated, which are speed rated up to 168mph. As they are original fitment I guess something has changed from what the mk5 guys are saying.
On the subject of Winter tyres, what do you guys reckon. I was thinking about buying V rated tyres, which I thought would be more than adequate. Do they need to be XL versions of the V rated tyre, or would V rated be good enough? :undecided:
My standard Dunlops are XL, as are my winter Vredesteins.
They cost about the same anyway...so just go for the XLs.
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There is no mention of XL on my Bridgestone Potenza 18" tyres however looking up the www they are definitely XL
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My understanding of the XL 'extra load' tyres is that they are designed to run at higher pressures when used with heavier vehicles. They have stiffer reinforced side walls and are normally inflated at up to 42psi, rather than up to 35psi as with non-XL tyres.
If your car has XL tyres specified, it is because it needs them when fully loaded - remember these 'hot hatches' of ours are much larger and heavier than the original GTI's were. In fact my R is half a ton heavier than a Mk2 GTI... add four fat blokes and some luggage and your average GTD or GTI isn't far off weighing 2 tons!
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XL on my Bridgestones on my GTD, the hand book I think specs what tyres should be fitted?
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I cannot find it in the handbook, been through it two or three times now (it's got to be the worst handbook ever!) It's got a very good explanation of what all the symbols and lettering means but I can't see which tyres it recommends
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Sorry I was wrong the manual doesnt have the specs. Could of sworn I had read about them in there. Must have been imagining it.
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Here are the recommended tyres from the workshop manuals for the GTI/GTD
I think there is a mistake in the first table as the last entry should be Pirelli..
SUMMER
(http://www.thewindinglane.co.uk/images/mk6gti/summer.JPG)
WINTER
(http://www.thewindinglane.co.uk/images/mk6gti/winter.JPG)
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Here are the recommended tyres from the workshop manuals for the GTI/GTD
I think there is a mistake in the first table as the last entry should be Pirelli..
SUMMER
(http://www.thewindinglane.co.uk/images/mk6gti/summer.JPG)
interesting table: any idea why they have chosen the Michelin Exalto and NOT the Pilot Sport 2 ? (same as with Conti SC 2 and NOT Conti SC 3) ?
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Here are the recommended tyres from the workshop manuals for the GTI/GTD
I think there is a mistake in the first table as the last entry should be Pirelli..
Don't suppose you have the summer list for the 17s too please.
Thanks for any help.
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Here you go Snoopy..
(http://www.thewindinglane.co.uk/images/mk6gti/summer17.JPG)
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Wow quick responce :cool: Thank you. :smiley:
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Great info Mike, mine came with the Bridgestone RE 50's fitted, which seem to generate a fair bit of raod noise. So from that table it's a non-XL tyre as std. Ess_Three mentioned in the second post that his came as std with the XL's fitted. What did the rest of you guys on here with winter tyres fit, XL or non XL tyres? Would XL rated tyres affect the ride? So confusing! :undecided:
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The number at the end of the tyre spec is the load value 225/40 R 18 92Y
A value of 92 means Extra Load, a value of 88 would be standard.
The extra load requirement is not due to the weight of the vehicle, it is to do with the loads put on the tyre during acceleration, braking and cornering.
So the GTI needs XL tyres to stop the tyre moving on the rim under these circumstances.
All the tyres on that list are XL. :smiley:
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Great info Mike, mine came with the Bridgestone RE 50's fitted, which seem to generate a fair bit of raod noise.
Im guessing the same as mine. Bridgestone Potenza RE050 225/45R17 91W
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Yes, exactly the same as yours Snoopy.
The number at the end of the tyre spec is the load value 225/40 R 18 92Y
Thanks, missed that, I expected to see an XL mark on the tyre (doh!)
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Checking out prices of winter tyres, on our tyre sites the price is going up every couple of days. Mytyres now showing 17" Vredestien Wintrac Extremes at £157.50 fitted vs about £125 a month or so back. Nolian WR G2's at £133 fitted vs about £117 and Falken HS439 Winters at £113 vs £103 a few weeks back
Interesting to see the German sites now cheaper, even factoring in delivery and fitting locally (assuming around £50 for 4?)
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The tables at the beginning of this thread are useful.
Well I hit another big pothole, driving home in the dark yesterday :angry: That would probably have done damage to to the 17" alloys with low profile tyres, that are going to come on the new car. :sad: At the beginning of the week there were 3 cars in the ditch on my way to work due to black ice on the road.
That has made my mind up - second set of alloys + winter tyres for my new toy. I have found a secondhand set of 16" Passat alloys for £180. They take the fatter 205/55 R16 tyres so should be a little better for pot holes. The seller assures me they fit a mk6 golf ok.
Does anyone else have 16" alloys on their GTI/GTD for the winter?
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^^^ 16"'s with 205/55/16's are the official size and fit fine.
I tried the 16"'s I used on the otherhalfs A3's on my GTI and appart from looking daft they worked a treat :smiley:
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I know i have posted loads of photos of golfs with winter wheels on before.
I myself would rather the car looked in some peoples eyes 'daft' (I think of practical and sensible) than sitting at the side of the road with a flat damaged tyre, bent wheel, bent suspension.
Heres one i have to hand with steels on.(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/AudioNetPhoto/MK6%20Golf/utool_f_1263669058_825.jpg)
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Hi chaps,
Just getting up to speed with the forum, so will post in due course and introduce myself... thought this might be interesting, though: http://cars.uk.msn.com/blog/inside-track-blogpost.aspx?post=694cb5f0-02ba-474f-9493-c01e1ea5b67f&_blg=4
Running a set of winter Contis on my long-term Bluemotion. They're magic. I'm a convert.
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Very nice write ups, i have just been reading through them. :smiley:
Quite a few of us here are using winter tyres, there are quite a few old threads about our experiences and some discussions about them earlier this year. I think its one of those things once you have experienced the difference they make you won't be without them.
Im glad i had them on this morning when a couple of inches of fresh snow had fallen overnight and the roads had not been used/treated.