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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: hmeah on 24 September 2010, 15:42

Title: GTI sound?
Post by: hmeah on 24 September 2010, 15:42
hi,

is this how a/your gti should be sounding? if it is, bring back the mk2 gti!

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/hbuyer2005/vw/?action=view&current=gtisound.mp4 (http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/hbuyer2005/vw/?action=view&current=gtisound.mp4)


(think i have put the video right
Title: Re: GTI sound?
Post by: ub7rm on 24 September 2010, 17:19
No!  Sounds like an old tractor.  I think some cars have had issues with the cam chain tensioner.  The GTI engine has a belt on the left hand side and a chain internally on the right hand side. 

Are you under warranty?
Title: Re: GTI sound?
Post by: hmeah on 24 September 2010, 17:23
I was wary of the sound when i purchased it, I am not in warranty, It bacame a concern when people kept asking me if it was a diesel! i posted some messages on here and response was that the fsi sound like a diesel, surely not this bad eh?

what are my options? do you think its got anything to do with tapets? i remember on the mk2 16v the tapets use to make noise, i use to put in a can of something in the oil, which took away the noise, could i try this again on this engine?
 
Title: Re: GTI sound?
Post by: Khare on 24 September 2010, 17:30
I vagely remember something about the newer FSI engines sounding like diesels on idle due to their direct injection system.
Title: Re: GTI sound?
Post by: Keano on 25 September 2010, 12:58
what fuel do you put in it mate?
Title: Re: GTI sound?
Post by: jeynesey on 25 September 2010, 13:16
I vagely remember something about the newer FSI engines sounding like diesels on idle due to their direct injection system.

Yup  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI sound?
Post by: ub7rm on 25 September 2010, 13:31
I vagely remember something about the newer FSI engines sounding like diesels on idle due to their direct injection system.

Yup  :smiley:

Not like that though!  They sound a bit ticky but thats extreme.  They sound a bit like a diesel - not like a diesel!
Title: Re: GTI sound?
Post by: Snoopy on 25 September 2010, 17:39
That sounds abit like a front pipe chuffing. Are you sure your exhaust is not leaking?
Title: Re: GTI sound?
Post by: lowdown on 26 September 2010, 09:23
How old is car?
How many miles?
Title: Re: GTI sound?
Post by: hmeah on 26 September 2010, 10:17
I always use the premium V power petrol from shell
The car has done 43k and I am the 2nd owner
The exhaust seems nice,no leaks or blows.
If i was to replace the belt and tensioner, would it take the noise away? or is there anything else i should try before forking out that sort of money.
 
Title: Re: GTI sound?
Post by: Gene Hunt. on 26 September 2010, 10:18
No!  Sounds like an old tractor.  I think some cars have had issues with the cam chain tensioner.  The GTI engine has a belt on the left hand side and a chain internally on the right hand side. 

Are you under warranty?
........had to have this replaced on mine.
Title: Re: GTI sound?
Post by: lowdown on 26 September 2010, 10:24
Mine is similar mileage, always had V power and just had cam belt and tensioners done and it sounds exactly like yours.

Actually seems to have got worse since this was done !!  No other issues, performance is rock solid and fuel consumption best ever over lifetime.
Title: Re: GTI sound?
Post by: ub7rm on 26 September 2010, 20:46
Don't confuse the cam belt with the cam CHAIN.  Its dicky chains / chain tensioners that makes them sound like diesels, not the belts.  There is another issue which seems to affect mostly ED30's which results in needing a new BELT and tensioner, but the symptom is a squeek when cold.

From what others have reported, it sounds very much like you have the dodgy chain / tensioner issue.  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI sound?
Post by: arr on 26 September 2010, 21:17
sounds exactly the same as mine, had it nearly 3 years now and it completely does my head in!!!!! its fine when the engines cold but once it warms up idle and speeds below 25mph are just annoying and slightly embrassing  :cry: mines a may 2005 gti only 41k
Title: Re: GTI sound?
Post by: Gene Hunt. on 27 September 2010, 12:33
sounds exactly the same as mine, had it nearly 3 years now and it completely does my head in!!!!! its fine when the engines cold but once it warms up idle and speeds below 25mph are just annoying and slightly embrassing  :cry: mines a may 2005 gti only 41k
..........is your's on the AXX engine code ?. Mine was & it was the small cam chain & tensioner.Cam belt had been replaced.
Title: Re: GTI sound?
Post by: Egbutt Wash on 27 September 2010, 15:28
That's a horrible sounding engine.  These anniversary models seem to suffer more faults than normal.  Perhaps they are thrashed at higher revs than the normal GTI (the bigger turbocharger in the Edition 30 needs a fistfull more revs to start blowing).
Title: Re: GTI sound?
Post by: ub7rm on 27 September 2010, 18:14
That's a horrible sounding engine.  These anniversary models seem to suffer more faults than normal.  Perhaps they are thrashed at higher revs than the normal GTI (the bigger turbocharger in the Edition 30 needs a fistfull more revs to start blowing).

Its not an ED30 you muppet.
Title: Re: GTI sound?
Post by: arr on 27 September 2010, 21:40
sounds exactly the same as mine, had it nearly 3 years now and it completely does my head in!!!!! its fine when the engines cold but once it warms up idle and speeds below 25mph are just annoying and slightly embrassing  :cry: mines a may 2005 gti only 41k
..........is your's on the AXX engine code ?. Mine was & it was the small cam chain & tensioner.Cam belt had been replaced.

yep its the AXX engine code, did yours sound normal again after the small cam chain & tensioner was changed? had my cambelt and water pump changed earlier in the year
Title: Re: GTI sound?
Post by: savvasa on 28 September 2010, 06:53
Oh dear, my 06 GTI sounds just like this!! I think I'll be booking mine into get fully serviced by VW while they have fixed price offer on.
Title: Re: GTI sound?
Post by: Egbutt Wash on 28 September 2010, 10:59
That's a horrible sounding engine.  These anniversary models seem to suffer more faults than normal.  Perhaps they are thrashed at higher revs than the normal GTI (the bigger turbocharger in the Edition 30 needs a fistfull more revs to start blowing).

Its not an ED30 you muppet.

Sounds like one.
Title: Re: GTI sound?
Post by: hmeah on 28 September 2010, 11:35
Oh dear, my 06 GTI sounds just like this!! I think I'll be booking mine into get fully serviced by VW while they have fixed price offer on.

Whats this fixed price offer? i ain't seen anything, been getting quotes for the cambelt kit and water pump, got quotes ranging from £399 to £750!

I want to be sure its the cambelt and that the sound will go away once i get it changed, i may even put it though a full service, as the last one was done in April 2010...

anyone know of a decent and reasonable priced deal for service/cambelt within London M25?
Title: Re: GTI sound?
Post by: Gene Hunt. on 28 September 2010, 11:35
sounds exactly the same as mine, had it nearly 3 years now and it completely does my head in!!!!! its fine when the engines cold but once it warms up idle and speeds below 25mph are just annoying and slightly embrassing  :cry: mines a may 2005 gti only 41k
..........is your's on the AXX engine code ?. Mine was & it was the small cam chain & tensioner.Cam belt had been replaced.

yep its the AXX engine code, did yours sound normal again after the small cam chain & tensioner was changed? had my cambelt and water pump changed earlier in the year
.........sounds miles better now mate.Still get a slight ticking but this is the direct injection. Before it was replaced you could hear the diesel type rattle on tick over inside at traffic light etc. Nice & quiet now when sat at lights .
Title: Re: GTI sound?
Post by: savvasa on 28 September 2010, 11:48
Oh dear, my 06 GTI sounds just like this!! I think I'll be booking mine into get fully serviced by VW while they have fixed price offer on.

Whats this fixed price offer? i ain't seen anything, been getting quotes for the cambelt kit and water pump, got quotes ranging from £399 to £750!

I want to be sure its the cambelt and that the sound will go away once i get it changed, i may even put it though a full service, as the last one was done in April 2010...

anyone know of a decent and reasonable priced deal for service/cambelt within London M25?

Check out the VW site, they have a fixed price full service offer on, http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/servicing/fixed-price-servicing
Title: Re: GTI sound?
Post by: ub7rm on 28 September 2010, 12:51
A new belt won't help the diesel noise.  New CHAIN will though.
Title: Re: GTI sound?
Post by: hmeah on 28 September 2010, 12:53
Thank you VERY much for this, its what i wanted to know....
its the chain on the right.... so when they say cambelt kit change - this does not include the chain? or does it?

Title: Re: GTI sound?
Post by: ub7rm on 28 September 2010, 14:38
No.  Its not supposed to be a servicable part so there is no replacement schedule for it.

You will need a new belt as well if your car has done 60k or is 4 years old.
Title: Re: GTI sound?
Post by: cojomo2 on 17 May 2011, 16:49
Thank you VERY much for this, its what i wanted to know....
its the chain on the right.... so when they say cambelt kit change - this does not include the chain? or does it?


Hmeah, did you get get that sound sorted out/ ? Cheers
Title: Re: GTI sound?
Post by: MaXXeH on 17 May 2011, 19:57
mine sounds the same but cant really hear it with the bonnet shut,  bwa engine.
Title: Re: GTI sound?
Post by: hmeah on 18 May 2011, 23:43
never got the sound sorted, learnt to live with it and take the diesel abuse from friends and family,
just seen another post 'cured noise' the gentleman spend over 800 pounds to fix the rattle!
Title: Re: GTI sound?
Post by: gtimk5fan on 22 May 2011, 15:59
wtf!? No that doesnt sound right at all.