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Title: MK4 Golf GTi 2.0 8v
Post by: teccers on 24 September 2010, 02:37
Hey guys,

Just registered on the site this evening to gain some knowledge etc. Anyway, I've just bought a Golf GTi 2.0 8v for £2000 (2001/X with 88k) in silver. The car is very tidy, bodywork in good condition and pretty tidy inside. I've been searching the threads on here for 15 minutes or so and the 2.0 8v seems to get slated pretty often? I'm feeling like I've made a pretty bad purchase. I knew it wasn't going to be lightning fast, but insurance companies would of raped me for the 1.8T version due to being 18. I'm coming from a 106 Quiksilver so will i be seeing an improvement in performance? What I wanted was a nice solid car, with slightly better performance than my old 106. Bearing in mind that the 106 had 75bhp and the Golf having 115bhp, surely I should see some improvement? I understand that the Golf is a much heavier car and so on.

Anyway, any feedback or comments would be great.

Rhys
Title: Re: MK4 Golf GTi 2.0 8v
Post by: new to vw on 24 September 2010, 08:31
Sounds like you have bought a nice motor bud....your right about the insurance though, you would have been hammerd for it....put a filter and exhaust on it if you want some more go from it :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: MK4 Golf GTi 2.0 8v
Post by: richw911 on 24 September 2010, 11:38
The MK4 is a very solid car, the 2.0 8v is not the best engine TBH you would have been better off with the 1.8 20v N/A.

That said it is a very good all round cruiser and much better than a 106  :cool:
Title: Re: MK4 Golf GTi 2.0 8v
Post by: tech1889 on 24 September 2010, 11:44
Not the worst engine in the mk4 collection but certainly not the best.. start with a 2.0 8v and at a later date when you have more money you can move onto a 1.8t or something
Title: Re: MK4 Golf GTi 2.0 8v
Post by: teccers on 24 September 2010, 14:32
The MK4 is a very solid car, the 2.0 8v is not the best engine TBH you would have been better off with the 1.8 20v N/A.

That said it is a very good all round cruiser and much better than a 106  :cool:

I knew that the 2.0 8v wasn't the best engine but the 1.8T would have cost me £3k on insurance and that's a bit silly IMO. The 1.8 20v N/A seem to be slighty rarer? After looking at the figures on parkers, for the same insurance group the 1.8 20v pushed out 10bhp more and was a bit quicker to 60mph. I wasn't really looking at massive performance so this should be ok, stick a nice set of wheels on it and a set of coilovers and should look ok.
Title: Re: MK4 Golf GTi 2.0 8v
Post by: Wayne on 24 September 2010, 14:38
The MK4 is a very solid car, the 2.0 8v is not the best engine TBH you would have been better off with the 1.8 20v N/A.

That said it is a very good all round cruiser and much better than a 106  :cool:

I knew that the 2.0 8v wasn't the best engine but the 1.8T would have cost me £3k on insurance and that's a bit silly IMO. The 1.8 20v N/A seem to be slighty rarer? After looking at the figures on parkers, for the same insurance group the 1.8 20v pushed out 10bhp more and was a bit quicker to 60mph. I wasn't really looking at massive performance so this should be ok, stick a nice set of wheels on it and a set of coilovers and should look ok.

The 1.8 20v is the better engine to be honest.
Title: Re: MK4 Golf GTi 2.0 8v
Post by: teccers on 24 September 2010, 14:51
The MK4 is a very solid car, the 2.0 8v is not the best engine TBH you would have been better off with the 1.8 20v N/A.

That said it is a very good all round cruiser and much better than a 106  :cool:

I knew that the 2.0 8v wasn't the best engine but the 1.8T would have cost me £3k on insurance and that's a bit silly IMO. The 1.8 20v N/A seem to be slighty rarer? After looking at the figures on parkers, for the same insurance group the 1.8 20v pushed out 10bhp more and was a bit quicker to 60mph. I wasn't really looking at massive performance so this should be ok, stick a nice set of wheels on it and a set of coilovers and should look ok.

The 1.8 20v is the better engine to be honest.

Yeah, I most certainly understand that. Oh well, give it a couple months until the 2 yrs ncb comes through then i'll see what the insurers have to say.
Title: Re: MK4 Golf GTi 2.0 8v
Post by: tech1889 on 24 September 2010, 15:16
I pay 3.5k insurance so it's all good mate  :grin:
Title: Re: MK4 Golf GTi 2.0 8v
Post by: richw911 on 24 September 2010, 15:18
Indeed alloys and a drop will look  :cool:

At least your doing it the right way and getting NCB built up :afro:
Title: Re: MK4 Golf GTi 2.0 8v
Post by: chrisr103 on 24 September 2010, 20:07
I used to have a 2.0 GTi a while ago, It wasnt as bad as people make out, Not exactly the quickest car but was very solid & drove really well.

Get a set of nice wheels on it & go a bit lower then enjoy it
Title: Re: MK4 Golf GTi 2.0 8v
Post by: smitty12 on 24 September 2010, 20:49
I'm 19, owner my 2.0L 8v for a year and a half and its great.

DSG intake, Panel filter and exhaust and you will see a fair bit of performance improvement.

Elephant has been cheapest 2 years running for me so if you havnt already done the insurance thats the one to go for  :smiley:

Problems you'l probably encounter are:
1. OIL!!!!!!! CHECK EVERY WEEK!!!! 2.0L 8V drinks oil!!
2. MAF, ive been through 5 in the past year and its just gone again this week
3. HT Leads, tend to go, i've been through 2 sets.

Other than that they are pretty sound. I've had trouble with head gaskit and exhaust manifold but that was probably because my car hadnt been services in 50,000 miles lol.

Great cruising car, mega comfortable, get decent MPG if you keep the oil topped up and dont horse it  :wink:
Title: Re: MK4 Golf GTi 2.0 8v
Post by: DrewiD on 24 September 2010, 21:14
I used to have a 2.0 GTi a while ago, It wasnt as bad as people make out, Not exactly the quickest car but was very solid & drove really well.

Get a set of nice wheels on it & go a bit lower then enjoy it


+1       had mine a year and half now.Im still in love with it.the 1st mot needed frount lamba,2nd need some ,{frount steering rods,[or what ever there called] just for mot, left was addvisory.
if you choose your race's wisely,,,, then it will leave you smileing all the time :) Ok yes to start with it used a lot of water,but fixed that.Mine doesnt use all that much oil,but it likes petrol.
but i love it

                  DrewiD
Title: Re: MK4 Golf GTi 2.0 8v
Post by: tech1889 on 25 September 2010, 01:55
pot luck some use oil some dont saves you doing oil changes tho as always has fresh oil lol
Title: Re: MK4 Golf GTi 2.0 8v
Post by: richw911 on 25 September 2010, 07:11
pot luck some use oil some dont saves you doing oil changes tho as always has fresh oil lol

 :grin:
Title: Re: MK4 Golf GTi 2.0 8v
Post by: jeynesey on 25 September 2010, 13:06



UNBELIEVEABLE TEKKERS!!!
Title: Re: MK4 Golf GTi 2.0 8v
Post by: Mikesps on 25 September 2010, 16:59

Problems you'l probably encounter are:
1. OIL!!!!!!! CHECK EVERY WEEK!!!! 2.0L 8V drinks oil!!
2. MAF, ive been through 5 in the past year and its just gone again this week
3. HT Leads, tend to go, i've been through 2 sets.


Had mine just over a year and had no MAF problems :shocked: they certainly do go through a lot of oil though! They're not the quickest cars around but they aren't bad cars atall. Do what i did teccers and build up your NCB etc and get a 1.8t :evil: no point spending silly amounts on insurance
Title: Re: MK4 Golf GTi 2.0 8v
Post by: tech1889 on 25 September 2010, 17:06
no claims is over rated ive got 1 thats enough for me lol  :laugh: its surprising how much difference no claims makes tho depending on insurance company..
Title: Re: MK4 Golf GTi 2.0 8v
Post by: Mikesps on 25 September 2010, 18:48
Age is a bigger factor! when i reached 21 my insurance dropped sooo much
Title: Re: MK4 Golf GTi 2.0 8v
Post by: smitty12 on 26 September 2010, 12:48
I'm not really sure i'll ever bother saving for a 20vT. I love my 2.0 8v, will keep this until i have the money for the F430/599 Fiorino  :grin:

But seriously there great cars. Most come very high spec, get good MPG and have enough power to embarass plenty of other cars off the lights. Last year i was neck and neck with my mate in his Lexus IS200, you would thing a 2.5L would kill a 2.0 8v but between 95-115 i was pulling out quite a lead  :smiley:

Obviously on a controlled private circuit  :smiley:
Title: Re: MK4 Golf GTi 2.0 8v
Post by: teccers on 26 September 2010, 13:51
I'm 19, owner my 2.0L 8v for a year and a half and its great.

DSG intake, Panel filter and exhaust and you will see a fair bit of performance improvement.

Elephant has been cheapest 2 years running for me so if you havnt already done the insurance thats the one to go for  :smiley:

Problems you'l probably encounter are:
1. OIL!!!!!!! CHECK EVERY WEEK!!!! 2.0L 8V drinks oil!!
2. MAF, ive been through 5 in the past year and its just gone again this week
3. HT Leads, tend to go, i've been through 2 sets.

Other than that they are pretty sound. I've had trouble with head gaskit and exhaust manifold but that was probably because my car hadnt been services in 50,000 miles lol.

Great cruising car, mega comfortable, get decent MPG if you keep the oil topped up and dont horse it  :wink:

Cheers for the replies guys.

What's a DSG intake? I'm a bit new to all this.

I'm with Admiral and they ain't too bad with me.

I've read a lot about this oil issue so i will keep an eye on it weekly. Cheers for the heads up smitty. Just had a look at you're project blog, like the unique changes you've done to the car.
Title: Re: MK4 Golf GTi 2.0 8v
Post by: teccers on 26 September 2010, 13:52



UNBELIEVEABLE TEKKERS!!!

My nickname is teccers, due to my surname, haha. Some tekkers are good..
Title: Re: MK4 Golf GTi 2.0 8v
Post by: teccers on 26 September 2010, 13:56
Age is a bigger factor! when i reached 21 my insurance dropped sooo much

True. Insurane on this golf for me now is £1,600 @ 18.

Love the wheels on you're car Mike, they RS6's? I'm looking for a set of those, what tyres do you have on them? 40 profiles?
Title: Re: MK4 Golf GTi 2.0 8v
Post by: smitty12 on 26 September 2010, 14:03
Cheers mate!  :smiley:

The DSG Intake is the intake pipes from the R32, the give a more direct air flow through the engine, far better than the standard kit. A standard air box is fine with a aftermarket pannel filter, smoothing always helps too  :smiley:
Title: Re: MK4 Golf GTi 2.0 8v
Post by: teccers on 26 September 2010, 14:19
Cheers mate!  :smiley:

The DSG Intake is the intake pipes from the R32, the give a more direct air flow through the engine, far better than the standard kit. A standard air box is fine with a aftermarket pannel filter, smoothing always helps too  :smiley:

Ah right ok, I'll have a look around for them! What's you're GTi pushing out now power wise?
Title: Re: MK4 Golf GTi 2.0 8v
Post by: smitty12 on 26 September 2010, 15:09
Cheers mate!  :smiley:

The DSG Intake is the intake pipes from the R32, the give a more direct air flow through the engine, far better than the standard kit. A standard air box is fine with a aftermarket pannel filter, smoothing always helps too  :smiley:

Ah right ok, I'll have a look around for them! What's you're GTi pushing out now power wise?

Dont have a clue tbh lol
Want to get it down R-Tech after some more mods and try the re-map even thou it doesnt help a great deal. Sharpens throttle response and can give better acceleration and MPG apparinatly  :smiley:
Title: Re: MK4 Golf GTi 2.0 8v
Post by: Mikesps on 26 September 2010, 15:37
Age is a bigger factor! when i reached 21 my insurance dropped sooo much

True. Insurane on this golf for me now is £1,600 @ 18.

Love the wheels on you're car Mike, they RS6's? I'm looking for a set of those, what tyres do you have on them? 40 profiles?

I was paying around £1,700 :laugh: Yeah they are 18" RS6's, brought them off ebay.. wheels and tyres for £460 i think! but that car is long gone  :tongue: need to update my sig