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Title: Faided paint
Post by: armatage on 22 January 2005, 12:39
My Jetta GTI is red and a bit faded.  I have tried T-cutting it by hand and also with a electric buffing pad but still faded, I think it must have gone quite deep into the paint.  When polished it looks very good but over a week or 2 the fadedness comes back.
Is there anything else I can use?
Title: Re: Faided paint
Post by: ...joe on 22 January 2005, 12:49
from what i've heard, a red faded car is f**ked. sorry, like you say you can polish and t cut it but it'll still fade. try taking it to a professional valeter, or bodyshop and get them top flatten polish it. its a pretty harsh process but thats about the best you could do.
Title: Re: Faided paint
Post by: Mr Blue on 22 January 2005, 13:03
use some G3 cutting compound. Much better than T-cut and comes in bigger bottles/tubs. can be found online but not sure where
Title: Re: Faided paint
Post by: G6dub on 22 January 2005, 13:24
use some G3 cutting compound. Much better than T-cut and comes in bigger bottles/tubs. can be found online but not sure where

This is what we use all the time, it works really well and is great for getting out small scratches too using a  mop with it we find best

Title: Re: Faided paint
Post by: carrie on 22 January 2005, 17:17
i posted a question once about faded mars red paint, the answer came back it was to do with the dyes they used to create red.
point is its the dye in the paint which has gone, using a polisher with rubbing compuond will only serve to get you a grey car followed eventualy by a silver one, the silver one will then eventually go redish, but then brown and the car will dissapear :laugh:
it will not improve
Title: Re: Faided paint
Post by: piggy on 22 January 2005, 19:14
use some G3 cutting compound. Much better than T-cut and comes in bigger bottles/tubs. can be found online but not sure where

I used some of this on my old White mk2 and it came up a treat, but what's it like on Metallic Paint, as I haven't done my current car yet?
Title: Re: Faided paint
Post by: Fielder5757 on 22 January 2005, 19:15
Re-spray my friend. My black Golf was a little faided so its been re-sprayed at the moment
Title: Re: Faided paint
Post by: piggy on 22 January 2005, 19:32
My paintwork is original and in very good condition, but could do with losing those little fine scratches.
Don't wanna start using G3 on it unless peeps think it's ok to do :undecided:
Title: Re: Faided paint
Post by: carrie on 22 January 2005, 20:52
the point is tcut, rubbing compound et al.
are ALL abrasive they work by removing a small portion of the paint do it enough and no paint.
cutting compound is the last thing to use on lacquer paint
ie metallic.
in fact cutting compound why? have you just sprayed the car and had some small runs in it.
Title: Re: Faided paint
Post by: Mr Blue on 22 January 2005, 21:03
when i got a respray, they ran a mop over the whole car with g3 compound and it came out blinging on the metallic paint.

so this must be alrite on metallics right?
Title: Re: Faided paint
Post by: carrie on 22 January 2005, 21:10
they might of removed of a few lumps from the surface of the laquer, it is not for general use, if you want you can fcuk your paint up faster with a brillo pad
Title: Re: Faided paint
Post by: piggy on 22 January 2005, 22:25
That's why I'm not sure about using it, or T cut cos I'm bothered about ruining the Metallic paint.

Any ideas what I can use to get rid of those faint lines on dullish paintwork?
Title: Re: Faided paint
Post by: carrie on 22 January 2005, 23:28
generally i use the autoglym polish (not the paint renovator) which cleans the paint then follow with the high gloss polish as this means a couple of weeks of easy rinsing to keep it clean.
tcut do a blue one for metallic but i have not used it.
Title: Re: Faided paint
Post by: Dizzie on 23 January 2005, 01:08
right, here's my 2p. After A LOT of t-cut and elbow grease the red/orange/pink car I was using looked something like the pic below. Then as I knew in days it'd return to it's previous state I put 2 coats of Mequiars liquid gold wax on to try and lock in the colour. It worked for 6 weeks until I had to give the car back anyway.

(http://www.dizzie.biz/golf/clean_as.jpg)
Title: Re: Faided paint
Post by: ...joe on 23 January 2005, 19:17
so...... i guess we're all in agreement that you can cut it back but it wont last as the pigment is knackered?
Title: Re: Faided paint
Post by: marcogolfo on 25 January 2005, 11:53
the scientific reason is that the colour red fades faster than any other colour because it has the shortest wavelength and is more easily excited by sunlight, thus causing it to fade quicker.  There's more to it than this, but think about the colours of the rainbow, they go in shortest to longest wavelength,  thus darker cars dont tend to fade as quick.

In English - The bottom line is get it sprayed if you want it to last.
regards
marco :wink:
Title: Re: Faided paint
Post by: Sugar79 on 25 January 2005, 12:45
i used to have a mint XR2 in red, in the summer the back quater panel used to fade, i was t-cuting it every other day, until some drunk driver with no insurance mot etc pulled out infront of me and wrote it off lol

I had a white XR2i after that and if anyone has got a white car and its looking a bit dull, get it bleached!!
I used to do car valeting and there is a special bleach for white cars that you leave on for a few mins, then spray off, then wax the car after, you'll be amazed how good the paint work will look.
I think you can pick some up from an wholesaler.  :cool:
Title: Re: Faided paint
Post by: Gambit on 25 January 2005, 13:00
take the car to a proper valeter who will run a mop over it then get them to use a proper carnuba hard wax on it, it'll be fine and last longer than any wax you buy of the shelf