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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: AlexMozza on 05 September 2010, 19:58

Title: Rear Bushes
Post by: AlexMozza on 05 September 2010, 19:58
My rear bushes are on  the way out.
Where is best to get a new set from and how much do they tend to cost.
I know you can get different types.

Any help thanks!
Title: Re: Rear Bushes
Post by: ralphtown on 06 September 2010, 08:31
I always use GSF

RALPH
Title: Re: Rear Bushes
Post by: AlexMozza on 06 September 2010, 17:42
Thanks for that :D

As it is making a banging noise when i go over bumps what do you think needs to be replaced bush wise?
The rear wishbone bush?
Sounds like metal hitting metal.]

Thanks!
Title: Re: Rear Bushes
Post by: Benrevs on 06 September 2010, 18:04
I bought from GSF and fitted a set around 2 years ago and the new owner contacted me to say they have disintegrated!  Safest bet would be poly bushes, but they are a tad expensive.  There are no wishbones on the rear, they have trailing arms.  It could be the shocks and their bushes or the main axle bushes, best to get it in the air and have a good look.  The main rear bushes are a right ballache.. wouldn't recommend it to anyone!!
Title: Re: Rear Bushes
Post by: AlexMozza on 06 September 2010, 18:22
Haha Thanks for that.

I'm only looking for a cheap fix, planing to uprate the whole suspension and bushes at a later date anyway :)
Do you need a press for either of them?
Title: Re: Rear Bushes
Post by: Benrevs on 06 September 2010, 19:07
Getting them in isn't so bad, its getting the old ones out that is a bastard. You will need a selection of hitting devices, a few chisels, maybe a blowtorch, possible a drill and a VERY good temper! All will become clear when and if you decide to tackle them!
Title: Re: Rear Bushes
Post by: dannydubs on 06 September 2010, 19:57
great i gota do this shortly :cry:
Title: Re: Rear Bushes
Post by: archie837 on 06 September 2010, 22:28
Woaaaah loadsa mk2 owners in here!  :smiley: I've been putting them off. Best quote I got was from a mate and he reckoned a twenny a side to do on top of the bushes.
Title: Re: Rear Bushes
Post by: ralphtown on 07 September 2010, 09:04
There is a special tool for removal but my "man" made his own.
The main radius are bushes are a real b!tch.
They are located ,sort of,under the end of the sill.
Just follow the suspension arm to its mounting with the body.

Personally,I,ve never had any issues with GSF parts and as you plan to upgrade,well...I,d do that now.

If you waste time and money replacing worn out standard parts with new standard parts,you,re throwing good money away.

If you know what set up you want in the future,then I,d go all out for it now.

The car won,t pass an MOT anyway,so you may as well catch the bus for a while whilst the cars up in the air.

RALPH
Title: Re: Rear Bushes
Post by: AlexMozza on 07 September 2010, 17:22
lol, i may get 'my man' to do it lol
Title: Re: Rear Bushes
Post by: AlexMozza on 08 September 2010, 18:47
I have looked under the car and it appears that it is the suspension bush that goes into the boot (the one with the spring on it...cant remember it real name :s) and not the one on the lower arm as first thought.
Is there a part number for it? the old one has crumbled away :s

Thanks!
Title: Re: Rear Bushes
Post by: DubSociety on 09 September 2010, 09:51
Trust me when I say this ... go Polybush, those nice Powerflex ones that cost approx £60.

You want to change them once, the old ones disintegrate too quickly and are an absolute basteward to remove!!!
Title: Re: Rear Bushes
Post by: kr1s77 on 09 September 2010, 18:44
hi all, i'm thinking about replacing my bushes next month. would this kit be ok.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/POWERFLEX-SUSPENSION-BUSHES-FULL-BUSH-KIT-VW-GOLF-MK3-/120606791206?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1c14b99626

Thanks.

(sorry for hi-jack)
Title: Re: Rear Bushes
Post by: AlexMozza on 09 September 2010, 18:58
Wow, I do need a set of them :P

Perhaps need a bit more than £60 first :D
Title: Re: Rear Bushes
Post by: DubSociety on 11 September 2010, 08:01
Wow, I do need a set of them :P

Perhaps need a bit more than £60 first :D

Yeah thats the whole kit ... so your looking at £232 which is a decent saving as your buying everything and not just the rear beam ones like I did number (7) in the diagram on ebay.

And then around £200 odd for labour!
Title: Re: Rear Bushes
Post by: AlexMozza on 11 September 2010, 19:40
Turned out just to be the rubber on the suspension strut between the bottom of the wheel arch and the strut...I feel a bit of a tit after all that :D
Title: Re: Rear Bushes
Post by: Wayne on 11 September 2010, 21:06
Turned out just to be the rubber on the suspension strut between the bottom of the wheel arch and the strut...I feel a bit of a tit after all that :D


Top mounts, did you replace both parts.
Title: Re: Rear Bushes
Post by: AlexMozza on 11 September 2010, 22:12
Yes i have :D

Ill take it for a drive in the morning and see if that has fixed it all :D
Title: Re: Rear Bushes
Post by: AlexMozza on 18 September 2010, 21:06
i have just finished replacing the rear bushes...my god, they were SO easy. took about 1 hour to get the axle of then about 10 minutes to get the old one out by drilling out and hitting it out. i made a tool myself to press the new one in..hey presto that took about 10 minutes too :D

whole thing took no less that 2 hours from stop to Finnish...hardest part was connecting all the hoses back up, took about 2 hours to do that on its own!

I thought it would take ages and be really hard to do...ill put the photos up of the tool i made :)
If anyone is thinking of doing this let me know and ill let you know how to make the tool :D

Alex
Title: Re: Rear Bushes
Post by: vwscottie on 18 September 2010, 23:01
ill put the photos up of the tool i made :)
If anyone is thinking of doing this let me know and ill let you know how to make the tool :D

Alex

Please do i`m thinking of doing mine soon
Title: Re: Rear Bushes
Post by: AlexMozza on 19 September 2010, 20:06
^^^

Here is the tool I made, very simple yet effective :D

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc81/alexmorris60/18092010029.jpg)

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc81/alexmorris60/18092010024.jpg)

(http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc81/alexmorris60/18092010026.jpg)

If anyone wants a similar one im sure i can make one up for you for a small charge :D :wink:
Title: Re: Rear Bushes
Post by: Plantie005 on 30 April 2011, 23:33
Hi all, bit of a newbie but thought I would add my two pennance worth having just done this job, so this is my way to do it

Crack a brake bleed nipple and pump out as much brake fluid as you can.
Using either a 11mm spanner or a set of mole grips undo all of the brake pipes that go into the load compensator valve. Undo the brake pipe on the offside that goes from the load compensator to the flexi pipe connection (you will see it).
Remove the drums and disconnect the hand brake cable, pull it through and unclip it from the axle and tuck it out of the way.
Undo the two lower shock mounting bolts and drop the axle to the floor, carefully :grin:
Undo the three bolts on either side that hold the axle mounting bracket to the car and remove the axle, use of a trolley jack will help to support the weight.
Undo or more likely cut the bolts off that go through the bush this will free the mounting brackets and you can now move these around to suit by freeing the brake pipe clamp and slightly bending the brake pipes to the get the bracket out of the way.
If your rubber bushes are completely gone you will be able to knock them out, I had one that I pulled out by hand and one that I simply set about with a drill.
Now carefully cut through the metal sleeve and set about it with a chisel and hammer. Took about an hour either side of cutting and hammering before i had a completely mangled metal sleeve out, oh also lots of penetrating oil helps.
I replaced mine with polly bushes which just slide in, cost more but soooo much easier. New mounting bolts.
I also made up a new brake pipe which goes across the car from load valve to offside and replaced whichever brake union I trashed during removal.
During replacement I got one side bolted up to the car with the axle mounting bolt fitted and the shocks reconnected and then had one side with no mounting bolt in but with the bush inside the mounting bracket, if that makes sense?
I then used the lee way to offer up the mounting bracket to the car and using a crowbar for leaverage managed to jostle the bracket into the right position for the bolts to go in, i then had to use a trolley jack  to lift the axle a bit to get the mountiing bolt in, obviously new bushes make things a lot tighter.
Reconnect hand brake rebuiild everything else and job done.