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Model specific boards => Golf mk1 => Topic started by: steble on 24 August 2010, 19:08

Title: Success!!!!!!!! :D
Post by: steble on 24 August 2010, 19:08
got the bloody thing out took a lot of effort and swearing and 'technical adjustment' but the head is out with the manifolds attached and after it came out it took all of 30 seconds to get that bloody bolt out and the manifolds off

not sure the manifold is standard though which may explain me having so much trouble trying to wiggle it out here is a pic, it appears to be stainless steel

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa137/steble/SAM_1009.jpg)

only thing is the headgasket looks ok :s so why is the oil and water mixed any ideas????

Title: Re: Success!!!!!!!! :D
Post by: SoundillusioN on 24 August 2010, 19:55
Thats not standard mate, thats a proper four branch 4 into 2

not sure about the water/oil issue then, how bad is it?
Title: Re: Success!!!!!!!! :D
Post by: Wayne on 24 August 2010, 20:17
Looks homemade.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Success!!!!!!!! :D
Post by: SoundillusioN on 24 August 2010, 20:29
Looks homemade.  :smiley:
does a bit, mine looks like this:

(http://www.volksforum.com/albums/files/4/0/6/0/DSC00777.JPG)
Title: Re: Success!!!!!!!! :D
Post by: Wayne on 24 August 2010, 23:51
Looking at it again it might be a ANSA.
Title: Re: Success!!!!!!!! :D
Post by: steble on 25 August 2010, 17:21
may explain why we got told the exhaust system cost £600 then by the dealer we got it off

was a bargin of a car cos he took it part ex and didn't know what to do with it :lol:

its a stainless janspeed system, the manifold is in 2 parts , then theres a y piece its a very nice looking system tbh

as for the oil/water mix, it was very bad weirdly no mayo on the oil cap etc it was all in the water reservoir
Title: Re: Success!!!!!!!! :D
Post by: Alec on 26 August 2010, 03:28
Regarding the oil and water mixing...
Do the Mk1's have a similar oil cooler setup to the Mk2?
Title: Re: Success!!!!!!!! :D
Post by: steble on 26 August 2010, 14:00
dunno why whats your thinking?
Title: Re: Success!!!!!!!! :D
Post by: SoundillusioN on 26 August 2010, 14:40
Regarding the oil and water mixing...
Do the Mk1's have a similar oil cooler setup to the Mk2?
MK1 isn't cooled by water if thats what you 're thinking, they have a seperate rad....
Title: Re: Success!!!!!!!! :D
Post by: rubjonny on 26 August 2010, 14:47
not if its a later cabby like this one, they use oil/water cooler just like MK2 GTI.  prime suspect if you have oil in your water. to confirm, remove the 2 coolant pipes from the oil cooler and bridge them together.  flush coolant system and see if oil comes back after a week or so of driving, plus oil leaking out of the oil cooler pipe connections a givaway its bust.

to get oil out of the coolant system drain the coolant by disconnecting as many pipes as you can, then flush with a hosepipe till water is clear. connect it all back up and fill with water plus a cup full of bio washing powder. run engine till hot, then allow to cool, drain and flush. repeat till oil is gone.  drive car for a week with plain water in it, see if it goes oily again after cooler is bypassed
Title: Re: Success!!!!!!!! :D
Post by: SoundillusioN on 26 August 2010, 14:53
not if its a later cabby like this one, they use oil/water cooler just like MK2 GTI.  prime suspect if you have oil in your water. to confirm, remove the 2 coolant pipes from the oil cooler and bridge them together.  flush coolant system and see if oil comes back after a week or so of driving, plus oil leaking out of the oil cooler pipe connections a givaway its bust.

to get oil out of the coolant system drain the coolant by disconnecting as many pipes as you can, then flush with a hosepipe till water is clear. connect it all back up and fill with water plus a cup full of bio washing powder. run engine till hot, then allow to cool, drain and flush. repeat till oil is gone.  drive car for a week with plain water in it, see if it goes oily again after cooler is bypassed
Sorry didnt know this was a late model cab..
Title: Re: Success!!!!!!!! :D
Post by: Alec on 26 August 2010, 15:15
Aye, I had a look on the tinterweb last night and it seems later clippers etc use the same setup as the mk2 GTI.
They are known for allowing water and oil to mix.

Hope he hasn't had the head off for no reason  :lipsrsealed:
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Post by: rubjonny on 26 August 2010, 16:13
yeah i only found out it were a late cab by checking thru the op recent posts  :grin:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 26 August 2010, 19:24
Aye, I had a look on the tinterweb last night and it seems later clippers etc use the same setup as the mk2 GTI.
They are known for allowing water and oil to mix.

Hope he hasn't had the head off for no reason  :lipsrsealed:
Years ago I had a pug 405 TDI and it went the same way, all of a sudden overheated, blowing smoke, pulled over, rad full of oil!!!!  :angry:
Title: Re: Success!!!!!!!! :D
Post by: Alec on 26 August 2010, 19:34
Aye, I had a look on the tinterweb last night and it seems later clippers etc use the same setup as the mk2 GTI.
They are known for allowing water and oil to mix.

Hope he hasn't had the head off for no reason  :lipsrsealed:
Years ago I had a pug 405 TDI and it went the same way, all of a sudden overheated, blowing smoke, pulled over, rad full of oil!!!!  :angry:

Ah dude yeah I remember doing a 306 D Turbo's heater matrix after that happened. Full of sludge and oil. Was a complete and utter pain in the backside. Quite common on the old Pug dervs wasn't it.
Title: Re: Success!!!!!!!! :D
Post by: SoundillusioN on 26 August 2010, 19:58
Aye, I had a look on the tinterweb last night and it seems later clippers etc use the same setup as the mk2 GTI.
They are known for allowing water and oil to mix.

Hope he hasn't had the head off for no reason  :lipsrsealed:
Years ago I had a pug 405 TDI and it went the same way, all of a sudden overheated, blowing smoke, pulled over, rad full of oil!!!!  :angry:

Ah dude yeah I remember doing a 306 D Turbo's heater matrix after that happened. Full of sludge and oil. Was a complete and utter pain in the backside. Quite common on the old Pug dervs wasn't it.

yeah!.... a sign of previous owners not keeping anti-freeze up to scratch in the cooling system so the oils pipe corrodes from the outside!  :angry:
Title: Re: Success!!!!!!!! :D
Post by: steble on 27 August 2010, 19:04
cheers guys :D but massive arse i may have had the head off for no reason!!!!! altho it was missfiring/jumping/knocking and shizz so i just assumed head gasket was gone :( may have been both but as i said gasket looked ok

top end rebuild me thinks, new gaskets, clean all breather pipes wish i knew which ones i could get rid of

maybe new cam seeing as its apart and port the head slightly

what engine is actually in these later cabs is it the same as the mk2 8v gti engine?
Title: Re: Success!!!!!!!! :D
Post by: Alec on 27 August 2010, 21:31
I believe the codes are different but overall the same or very similar block and they share some parts (in the 1800cc anyway).

If only I had mentioned the oil cooler before you struggled with the head, sorry  :laugh:
At least now it's off like you say you can clean it all up and replace some gaskets and the like.
Title: Re: Success!!!!!!!! :D
Post by: steble on 27 August 2010, 23:57
yer its the 1800 gti 8v

so is the oil cooler water cooled instead of air cooled then, hence the problem of oil in the water
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Post by: Alec on 28 August 2010, 00:11
It is yeah, do what Rubjonny said to rule it out man. Hopefully you'll be laughing
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Post by: steble on 28 August 2010, 11:01
yer will do but got to get it all back together first :lol:

oh well was still a nice surprise to discover that manifold, wonder who made it :s can't find one like it atm