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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: alexoc on 20 August 2010, 22:34

Title: Upgraded Pads??
Post by: alexoc on 20 August 2010, 22:34
Looking from advice from anyone with experience having replaced their oem pads for performance pads.

Might do a couple of trackdays and can tell from road driving the standard pads/fluid will not be good enough.....so just wondering if anyone can recommend some better perfomance pads please??

Thanks :smiley:

P.S - Are the mk6 brakes & suspension the same as the mk5?
Title: Re: Upgraded Pads??
Post by: Keithuk on 21 August 2010, 01:15
Might do a couple of trackdays and can tell from road driving the standard pads/fluid will not be good enough.....
So you're basicing this fact on a couple of trackdays that the standard pads and fluid aren't good enough?

I think you want to get a life or tell your insurance how you drive?

I've never heard so much bull**** in my life.  :wink:
Title: Re: Upgraded Pads??
Post by: KennyGTI on 21 August 2010, 08:22
Looking from advice from anyone with experience having replaced their oem pads for performance pads.

Might do a couple of trackdays and can tell from road driving the standard pads/fluid will not be good enough.....so just wondering if anyone can recommend some better perfomance pads please??

Thanks :smiley:

P.S - Are the mk6 brakes & suspension the same as the mk5?

Brakes on Mk5 and Mk6 are the same mate 312mm. Heard good things about Tarox Sport Japan discs compared to OEM, also if your upgrading, maybe look into some Golf R brakes. Guy on Seat Cupra Net gets them at discount. Guy in my work bought some and gave me his details.  :wink:
Title: Re: Upgraded Pads??
Post by: JJH on 21 August 2010, 08:35
Keith, you need to get a grip man and start reading threads properly.

Alex, here's a link for ya......

http://www.volkswagenracing.co.uk/Golf%206%20Pages/Golf%206%20Brakes.html

good luck with it, let us know how you get on. which track are you heading to?

Title: Re: Upgraded Pads??
Post by: R32UK on 21 August 2010, 08:53
I am quite sure they are the same as the mk5.... which in short translates to cr4p!

I would try searching the Mk5 board as there have been lots of brake upgrades on there. Let us know how you get on.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Upgraded Pads??
Post by: Ess_Three on 21 August 2010, 11:36
So you're basicing this fact on a couple of trackdays that the standard pads and fluid aren't good enough?

I think you want to get a life or tell your insurance how you drive?

I've never heard so much bull**** in my life.  :wink:

Wow...constructive reply.

Standard brakes are barely up to a re-mapped GTI...I agree with that.
The best solution would be bigger brakes and better callipers...but for an improvement better pads will do.
I'd not be too fussed about the fluid, as long as it's fresh and clean...I'd also remove the 'dirt shields' behind the front discs as they stop cooling air from getting in...and I'd probably change the pads to Ferodo DS2500.

Now, I'm off to phone my insurance company and tell them I don't run and insure a modified GTI to mince around in like I'm taking my Gran to church...
Title: Re: Upgraded Pads??
Post by: Keithuk on 21 August 2010, 12:24
Keith, you need to get a grip man and start reading threads properly.
I did read alecoc's topic properly. You can upgrade virtually anything but that would only be necessary if you lived on a track. If he wants to spend £1500+ for a brake upgrade and £100+ for pads for a couple of track days then go ahead?   :wink:
Title: Re: Upgraded Pads??
Post by: JJH on 21 August 2010, 12:51
Keith, you need to get a grip man and start reading threads properly.
I did read alecoc's topic properly. You can upgrade virtually anything but that would only be necessary if you lived on a track. If he wants to spend £1500+ for a brake upgrade and £100+ for pads for a couple of track days then go ahead?   :wink:

The OP was asking for a recommendation regarding brake pads.
Why, when challenged, would you introduce the £1500+ brake upgrade?
Come to think of it, why would you even care if he did want to spend £2000 on a complete brake upgrade?
To say you havent 'heard so much bullsh!te in your life' seems just that, bullsh!te.
Have you heard the saying 'if you havent got anything good to say, say nothing'??
Title: Re: Upgraded Pads??
Post by: Horney on 21 August 2010, 12:55
Keith, you need to get a grip man and start reading threads properly.
I did read alecoc's topic properly. You can upgrade virtually anything but that would only be necessary if you lived on a track. If he wants to spend £1500+ for a brake upgrade and £100+ for pads for a couple of track days then go ahead?   :wink:

Doesn't matter how many trackdays you do, getting shot of brake fade and a woolly feeling peddle will have it's benefits on the road as well.

Nick
Title: Re: Upgraded Pads??
Post by: R32UK on 21 August 2010, 17:20
Certainly dont need to go on a track to experience brake fade on a GTI... i get it almost everyday on the way to work :evil:
Title: Re: Upgraded Pads??
Post by: david25 on 21 August 2010, 17:54
Happy reading here

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=23&t=657199&mid=173159&nmt=yellow%20stuff%20brake%20pads
Title: Re: Upgraded Pads??
Post by: SteveP on 21 August 2010, 22:56
Having tried the upgraded pads, discs and fluid route on my mk5 I was say if your going on track days you will quickly find the limits of the standard setup.

I have tried an AP big brake kit on my Mk6 and it was awesome on track but a bit too much for the road, so I have settled on a middle of the road upgrade using Porsche Cayman S 4 pot brembo calipers on custom carriers to fit the OEM 312mm discs.

This provides a much improved pedal feel and so far, using some SBS fast road pads, better resistance to fading.
Title: Re: Upgraded Pads??
Post by: RickS on 22 August 2010, 12:06
Keith, you need to get a grip man and start reading threads properly.
I did read alecoc's topic properly. You can upgrade virtually anything but that would only be necessary if you lived on a track. If he wants to spend £1500+ for a brake upgrade and £100+ for pads for a couple of track days then go ahead?   :wink:

Doesn't matter how many trackdays you do, getting shot of brake fade and a woolly feeling peddle will have it's benefits on the road as well.

Nick
I must not drive fast enough or for long enough; not noticed any brake fade on mine and pedal feels sharp, not woolly. Never been on a track though.
Title: Re: Upgraded Pads??
Post by: alexoc on 24 August 2010, 22:35
Thanks for all the reply guys, much food for thought :wink:

@SteveP - Did you sell your AP's?
Title: Re: Upgraded Pads??
Post by: alexoc on 08 September 2010, 10:25
For anyone who may be interested, yesterday I did a trackday on standard discs/pads/fluid and I was actually very surprised at how well they performed.
There was quite a bit of smoke from the pads after a couple of the sessions but 20 minutes cooling time and they were ready for more!!
Obviously I kept in mind they were built for the road when I was out on track and wasn't too hard on them, with a mixture of dry and wet track time that obviously helped the brakes too with lower speeds in the wet.

Overall they worked well with regular cooling and not staying on track for too long between intervals, having said all that I will still be getting upgraded pads & fluid for next time - so I can stay out for longer and I reckon the fluid got very hot towards the end :smiley: