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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: walchy01 on 18 August 2010, 16:56

Title: starter Motor problem????
Post by: walchy01 on 18 August 2010, 16:56
Hi there

Over the past few months i have noticed that the 16v struggles to turn over from time to time, abit like when your battery is flat, but it is not,today been all over in it, parked it on the drive turned it off, then decided to move it almost straight away, turned the key and nothing, turned again nothing, turned again and it started, no clicking though that you normally associate with the starter motor playing up, is this an early sign that the starter motor is on its way out??

Suggestions please

Thank you
Title: Re: starter Motor problem????
Post by: emery1990 on 18 August 2010, 17:40
yer the starter motor sounds the culprit, mine did exactly the same until it died completely, resulting in a reverse downhill bump start !
Title: Re: starter Motor problem????
Post by: lingl9z on 18 August 2010, 22:18
Mines started doing the same, sometimes it'll half turn the engine and i have to turn the ignition off and on a few times and then it fires! I'll be keeping a hmmer in my boot and if it stops completely will give it a hit and try again, starters seem to be quiet expensive new.... !
Title: Re: starter Motor problem????
Post by: emery1990 on 18 August 2010, 22:33
lol i had mywheel spanner handy when mine was going, used to always do it when filling up too  :embarassed: I got mine new for £70ish at a motor factors from a mate, bosch ones are like £180!!
Title: Re: starter Motor problem????
Post by: lingl9z on 18 August 2010, 22:47
Lol thats quiet a deal buddy :) I'll use my hammer if it goes and then hope I find a replacement :P
Title: Re: starter Motor problem????
Post by: tony_ack on 19 August 2010, 00:27
If you're sure the battery is okay, check the condition of the leads going to the starter - on my 8v they had worn pretty badly and the starter was struggling to get enough voltage to start the car. On some occasions it wouldn't start at all - then I moved the culprit wire then it started first touch of the key.

Worth a check before you start hunting for a new starter.
Title: Re: starter Motor problem????
Post by: Reasty on 19 August 2010, 08:47
Had this exact issue a few months ago,the car would randomly not crank when i turned the key,no clicking or attempting or anything
It would also happen alot when the car was hot after a run or if i needed to stop to get fuel whilst going somewhere long distance
(not good when ya stuck in a petrol station) Anyway it was the starter motor that was slowly dying,so bought a new one and not had a single issue with it since,starts on the key every time.
I did go for a bosch one and yes they are £130ish but aftermarket ones are between £60-£80,and ill bet you have to buy two of them by the time you need to replace the bosch one,my last one was on the car when the last owner (a mate) had the car and he had it for 4 years and ive had it for 7 so makes sense really imo  :wink:
Title: Re: starter Motor problem????
Post by: emery1990 on 19 August 2010, 17:12
yer spose but if your planning on keeping the car for that long, doubt ill keep mine for 5 years tbh, if it was yearly thing id understand. Plus £60 x 2 is £120 so still cheaper  :drool:
Title: Re: starter Motor problem????
Post by: walchy01 on 19 August 2010, 22:22
Looks like I'll be buying Bosch one then, cos I'm never selling valver, EVER :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: starter Motor problem????
Post by: emery1990 on 19 August 2010, 22:27
Best keep it for longer than 8 years otherwise youd kick yaself you could of saved £10 !!
Title: Re: starter Motor problem????
Post by: Reasty on 19 August 2010, 23:51
The prices I quoted for the pattern parts are plus vat  and where approximate prices  :tongue: :grin:
Title: Re: starter Motor problem????
Post by: walchy01 on 20 August 2010, 15:58
No problem still a bargain at £180
Title: Re: starter Motor problem????
Post by: Horney on 20 August 2010, 16:09
I got a Bosch one for my 8v for about £90 after exchange from my local motorfactors.

Nick
Title: Re: starter Motor problem????
Post by: emery1990 on 20 August 2010, 17:28
Wish i had done that! Hows £180 a bargain, i havnt seen a bosch one for any more that that?, they all seem to have a surcharge on them so they look cheap but in small letters says plus £40 surcharge?
Title: Re: starter Motor problem????
Post by: todd on 20 August 2010, 17:37
buy a mk3 lol have none of these problems  :tongue:
Title: Re: starter Motor problem????
Post by: emery1990 on 20 August 2010, 18:33
still have the problem of it looking dog though  :lipsrsealed: lol
Title: Re: starter Motor problem????
Post by: walchy01 on 20 August 2010, 20:27
Had a mk3, heavy lumps and no fun in my opinion :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: starter Motor problem????
Post by: Reasty on 20 August 2010, 22:43
Wish i had done that! Hows £180 a bargain, i havnt seen a bosch one for any more that that?, they all seem to have a surcharge on them so they look cheap but in small letters says plus £40 surcharge?

If you take the old one off before hand and take it with you,you don't have to pay the surcharge and they are nowhere near £180 more like £130 plus surcharge or £90 if you take your old unit in.
Title: Re: starter Motor problem????
Post by: Diamond Hell on 21 August 2010, 09:21
buy a mk3 lol have none of these problems  :tongue:

WTF?

Cos a starter motor on a Golf3's never failed in the history of the world, has it?

Of all the dumb-f*ck things to say....  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: starter Motor problem????
Post by: todd on 21 August 2010, 10:07
 
buy a mk3 lol have none of these problems  :tongue:

WTF?

Cos a starter motor on a Golf3's never failed in the history of the world, has it?

Of all the dumb-f*ck things to say....  :rolleyes:
always one that will bite lmao
Title: Re: starter Motor problem????
Post by: clipperjay on 21 August 2010, 11:42
buy a mk3 lol have none of these problems  :tongue:

WTF?

Cos a starter motor on a Golf3's never failed in the history of the world, has it?

Of all the dumb-f*ck things to say....  :rolleyes:
always one that will bite lmao

IMAO always one which only has 24 posts to be a comedian!  :evil:
All that hard work with DH gone to waste now due to you!  :kiss:
Title: Re: starter Motor problem????
Post by: todd on 21 August 2010, 14:06
steady on you might bring yourself out in a rash with all the ranting and i can have 24 posts or 3000 i can still comment on what i want it wasnt for u to reply to it was just a joke so u can jump down off ur high horse now !!!
Title: Re: starter Motor problem????
Post by: emery1990 on 21 August 2010, 14:35
It was the thickest joke ever though and there now their joking about it! lol
Title: Re: starter Motor problem????
Post by: todd on 21 August 2010, 14:40
oh and heres another
Title: Re: starter Motor problem????
Post by: emery1990 on 21 August 2010, 14:58
Another what, sort yaself out you weirdo were laughing at your joke ,.jeez, get over it.
Title: Re: starter Motor problem????
Post by: mwep201081 on 21 August 2010, 23:00
In all seriousness, I've had 6 Mk2's......3 off GTIs (all 8v) a 1.6 and 2 off 1.3's, one of which has been my daily since I was 18...I'm now 29! I've had 1 Mk3 which I bought for an ex missus and the starter was the first thing to fail!!!! I'll never buy a Mk3 again.....it let me down in a way  was not used to!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: starter Motor problem????
Post by: Reasty on 21 August 2010, 23:00
Are we still talking about starter motors?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: starter Motor problem????
Post by: mwep201081 on 21 August 2010, 23:05
Are we still talking about alternators?  :rolleyes:

Turbo failures?
Title: Re: starter Motor problem????
Post by: Ben Lessani on 22 August 2010, 12:17
I don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but

is it my starter motor

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check your battery for 12.2v (car off)
check your alternator for 13.5v-14.4v (car on)
check your gearbox ground.
check starter motor battery +ve feed.

if you have no noise at all
check your ign switch
check the wiring again!
run a bridge wire from the battery +ve to the solenoid

if you have 1 solitary click
check the braided solenoid to to starter +ve feed

if it buzzes/turns slowly
check the starter armature/carbon brushes (11mm is the minimum iirc)
check the bell housing bush

only after checking all the above, should you go about changing the starter.
Title: Re: starter Motor problem????
Post by: walchy01 on 22 August 2010, 13:32
Thanks for all :tongue: :tongue:Comments