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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: steveboy on 18 August 2010, 08:27
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Hi all,new to the forum,Adaptive chassis control, sounds good to me but does the comfort setting really make a difference,Ive just ordered a 140 dsg match and seriously thinking of adding the above,what other extras can anybody recommend,Can the engine be chipped and if yes whos the best to do it in the north west area,
Thanks in advance
steve
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I haven't got this on my car, howerver a few here have ACC and I've heard nothing but good reports regarding this :smiley:
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Pass on the ACC question.
There are plenty of companies that offer remaps. Revo seems to be the remap of choice over here in then MK6 area (www.revotechnik.com/) By the way, take the power outputs with a large pinch of salt.
Might be worth doing some digging on what the remap will do to your brand new cars warranty.
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I have both the ACC and the Revo remap (275hp).
ACC is worth having, although I must admit I just leave it in comfort 99% of the time. Sport is really uncomfortable. Having driven a non-ACC GTI, I would say the standard suspension is more like the Sport setting on the ACC.
Revo remap is good fun, but not vital. Putting 275hp through the front wheels requires experience, whereas with the stock car, you can just mash your foot to the floor without thinking about the consequences. Although I would miss the extra power, I'm not sure I would do any sort of remap again in a FWD car, TBH.
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Hi all,new to the forum,Adaptive chassis control, sounds good to me but does the comfort setting really make a difference,Ive just ordered a 140 dsg match and seriously thinking of adding the above,what other extras can anybody recommend,Can the engine be chipped and if yes whos the best to do it in the north west area,
Thanks in advance
steve
In my view, yes it makes a difference.
However, comfort is too soft for the open road in my view...it allows the car to wallow about and feels not especially well set-up...but it cities on poor road surfaces, it's fantastic.
I leave mine in normal most of the time, using Sport for a proper blast - it's firmer for sure, but so much more precise...it allows a harder turn in, allows you to get the rear moving, and tightens up the steering inputs too for better response.
I find normal to be fairly similar to the standard damper GTI.
How it compares on a non-GTI?...I don't know.
Would I order it on a non-GTI, based on how it's likely to be driven?...probably not.
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Revo remap is good fun, but not vital. Putting 275hp through the front wheels requires experience, whereas with the stock car, you can just mash your foot to the floor without thinking about the consequences. Although I would miss the extra power, I'm not sure I would do any sort of remap again in a FWD car, TBH.
He doesnt have a GTI and just has the 140 diesel so I would highly suggest he gives it a remap to give it more grunt.
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I have both the ACC and the Revo remap (275hp).
ACC is worth having, although I must admit I just leave it in comfort 99% of the time. Sport is really uncomfortable. Having driven a non-ACC GTI, I would say the standard suspension is more like the Sport setting on the ACC.
Revo remap is good fun, but not vital. Putting 275hp through the front wheels requires experience, whereas with the stock car, you can just mash your foot to the floor without thinking about the consequences. Although I would miss the extra power, I'm not sure I would do any sort of remap again in a FWD car, TBH.
An honest view from Froggy as always....
As stated above my car doesn't have ACC and personally I find the ride both comfortable and sporty.
With regard to Re-maps it’s something that really doesn’t fuss me. I'm not knocking this as I'm sure the quest to upgrade the cars power is very addictive and rewarding. However personally I would buy a Gold R if I wanted a more power as it has the 4 Motion to complement it.
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I have both the ACC and the Revo remap (275hp).
ACC is worth having, although I must admit I just leave it in comfort 99% of the time. Sport is really uncomfortable. Having driven a non-ACC GTI, I would say the standard suspension is more like the Sport setting on the ACC.
Revo remap is good fun, but not vital. Putting 275hp through the front wheels requires experience, whereas with the stock car, you can just mash your foot to the floor without thinking about the consequences. Although I would miss the extra power, I'm not sure I would do any sort of remap again in a FWD car, TBH.
An honest view from Froggy as always....
As stated above my car doesn't have ACC and personally I find the ride both comfortable and sporty.
With regard to Re-maps it’s something that really doesn’t fuss me. I'm not knocking this as I'm sure the quest to upgrade the cars power is very addictive and rewarding. However personally I would buy a Gold R if I wanted a more power as it has the 4 Motion to complement it.
I have ACC which I find to be a very worthwhile option. Now that my car has loosened up nicely I find that on the roads around my area, the North York Moors that it is superb for handling in sport mode, however when I am travelling long distances on the motorway comfort is just the ticket. For anything else I pop it into normal and that is good too.
With regard to having a remap I am not really into that as my car has enough power for my needs + I don't wish to b****r my warranty.
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Welcome to the forum Steve.
Ive just ordered a 140 dsg match and seriously thinking of adding the above,what other extras can anybody recommend,Can the engine be chipped and if yes whos the best to do it in the north west area,
Well if you've ordered this Match 2.0 TDI(140) then I would have thought that you would have sorted all additional options available before you ordered, not order then ask questions later? Now I know VW aren't fast on build times they can be anywhere between 4 and 6 months. If you decide to add ACC then that could delay it a bit more. I don't have it so I can't comment if it worth the £765. You can always Google or YouTube this option.
As for rechips again at the moment I don't find that I need one. You could have opted for the GTD, or can't you afford the extra cost? Now the people I have talked to say that DTUK unit (http://www.diesel-performance.co.uk/box-details.php?id=10) is very good. As already mentioned if you want to retain the 3 year warranty then this is a plug in unit that can be removed and it doesn't flash the ECU its been chipped as a lot do.
By the way which other options did you order, wheels, colour?
Now this site as the name suggests is mainly GTI based. You could always join TDICLUB (http://forums.tdiclub.com/index.php) and ask the same questions. There are others. :wink:
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Hi all,new to the forum,Adaptive chassis control, sounds good to me but does the comfort setting really make a difference,Ive just ordered a 140 dsg match and seriously thinking of adding the above,what other extras can anybody recommend,Can the engine be chipped and if yes whos the best to do it in the north west area,
Thanks in advance
steve
As stated by others, the ACC [or DCC as it says on the MFD] is a really worthwhile option. The difference between the 3 settings is really noticeable. Comfort for bumpy roads/speed bumps, normal for most other situations, sport for a blast. I use sport nearly as much as normal TBH if the roads I'm on have a decent surface as it makes the car more responsive and "tighter".
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Personally I think it's worth it. It's nice to have the comfort mode when the road is bad. I drive occationally on gravel due to my hobby to get to a model air field. I have mine on sport almost all the time on asphalt though.
btw I noticed some shh-sound when I drive over a speed bump. Sound like pressure getting out. I can only hear it with the windows down. It sounds rather cool and supposed to be normal according to the dealers. :laugh:
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I mostly use 'Comfort' as our roads in London jiggle you to distruction. Though in this mode the damping does not seem as effective as in 'Normal' and the car can crash a bit on certain types of potholes.
Very seldom do I use 'Normal' and only when I have a lot of bends to negotiate. 'Normal' has better damping than 'Comfort', but the car tends to jiggle a bit too much for my liking.
I have used 'Sport' just once and it reminded me of my Honda Type R GT. :sick:
Do I like ACC and find it useful? A resounding yes as I like the 'Comfort' mode very much.
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I have used 'Sport' just once and it reminded me of my Honda Type R GT. :sick:
Maybe it's only me but the Type R I've tried felt a lot stiffer then my GTI in sport. Type R was too stiff even for me. My last BMW with M-sport suspension was also a lot harder. A friend of mine actually said how "comfortable" it was on my BMW. He drives a Type R. :laugh:
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Type R's you end up losing your liver going over a speed ramp :grin:, I know coz i used to have one!! ACC is must , but not more important than DSG IMO!!
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Type R's you end up losing your liver going over a speed ramp :grin:, I know coz i used to have one!!
Haha. I think that's a pretty accurate description. :laugh:
I like the steering more on sport btw. On comfort it's too easy to turn the wheel but I guess thats the point of comfort and it is very nice on city driving.
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Type R's you end up losing your liver going over a speed ramp :grin:, I know coz i used to have one!! ACC is must , but not more important than DSG IMO!!
I think I dislocated my neck because of it! Really, this is the truth.
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It's a pity that there is no aftermarket option for ACC because I would certainly get this done now if I could. For the bomb blasted roads of Manchester a comfort option would be definitely preferable. On standard set up I wince as I go over any pot hole because I just know that the suspension will set yet another rattle, squeak or creak off and running!
Its a fact-hard suspension=interior noise.
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Its a fact-hard suspension=interior noise.
How very true. :smiley:
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......... and so to summarise, no one likes a stiffy but we all like a comforatble ride :wink:
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'Normal' has better damping than 'Comfort', but the car tends to jiggle a bit too much for my liking.
I agree.
......... and so to summarise, no one likes a stiffy but we all like a comforatble ride :wink:
Cue am1w... :grin:
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Its a fact-hard suspension=interior noise.
How very true. :smiley:
I don't agree.
Cars that are engineered properly with a decent underatanding of NVH can have hard suspension and no more interior noise than one with the less hard suspension option.
There are plenty of cars with very hard suspension that do not have a lot of interior noise, other than that which you'd want (engine noise).
Most recent 911s for example.
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ACC is must , but not more important than DSG IMO!!
How on earth can you compare the two?
They do completely different things.
It's like saying having folding mirrors is far more important than the optional 18" wheels.
Not comparable.
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......... and so to summarise, no one likes a stiffy but we all like a comforatble ride :wink:
Oh aye, speak for yourself :grin:
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......... and so to summarise, no one likes a stiffy but we all like a comforatble ride :wink:
Oh aye, speak for yourself :grin:
Sorry Gizzy, I forgot about you :embarassed: but I can now see why you like you ACC so much - 'one push of a button and its a stiff as you like' :grin:
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......... and so to summarise, no one likes a stiffy - Nonsense, I am dying for one, dear but we all like a comforatble ride :wink:
Oh aye, speak for yourself :grin:
Sorry Gizzy, I forgot about you :embarassed: but I can now see why you like you ACC so much - 'one push of a button and its a stiff as you like' :grin:
I must be doing something wrong. That button does not work on me. Why? :embarassed: :cry:
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ACC is must , but not more important than DSG IMO!!
How on earth can you compare the two?
They do completely different things.
It's like saying having folding mirrors is far more important than the optional 18" wheels. Probably true for someone else Not comparable. Not correct and therefore quite comparable for decision making.
Answers also in red.
You really can. It is a question of individual perception.
For instance, I felt it was more useful to spec ACC than a sunroof and these do very different things. :smiley:
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For instance, I felt it was more useful to spec ACC than a sunroof and these do very different things. :smiley:
More usefull for what?
A bloody sunroof doesn't affect the performance of the suspension or the steering!
Neither does DSG.
They are entirely different.
If it's a toss-up over certain options for a fixed sum of money...then I suppose you weight them all up.
But I can't believe many people walk into a dealer and say "I don't want to use either my left leg or left arm whilst driving my Golf...so I'll buy ACC/Sunroof"
They all do COMPLETELY different things!
If you want to tweak the chassis set-up, you buy ACC.
If you want the option of driving an Auto, you buy DSG.
If you like the extra light/fresh air, you buy a sunroof.
But none have ANY impact on the other...so are therefore the only reason you'd spec any of them is if you wanted that specific functionality.
For anyone to say DSG is 'more important' than ACC, is plain stupid.
It's obviously not 'more important' if you want a manual gearbox and the ability to change the chassis behaviour, is it?
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......... and so to summarise, no one likes a stiffy but we all like a comforatble ride :wink:
Oh aye, speak for yourself :grin:
Sorry Gizzy, I forgot about you :embarassed: but I can now see why you like you ACC so much - 'one push of a button and its a stiff as you like' :grin:
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Well put Ess_three! I totally agree :smiley:
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For instance, I felt it was more useful to spec ACC than a sunroof and these do very different things. :smiley:
More usefull for what?
A bloody sunroof doesn't affect the performance of the suspension or the steering!
Neither does DSG.
They are entirely different.
If it's a toss-up over certain options for a fixed sum of money...then I suppose you weight them all up.
But I can't believe many people walk into a dealer and say "I don't want to use either my left leg or left arm whilst driving my Golf...so I'll buy ACC/Sunroof"
They all do COMPLETELY different things!
If you want to tweak the chassis set-up, you buy ACC.
If you want the option of driving an Auto, you buy DSG.
If you like the extra light/fresh air, you buy a sunroof.
But none have ANY impact on the other...so are therefore the only reason you'd spec any of them is if you wanted that specific functionality.
For anyone to say DSG is 'more important' than ACC, is plain stupid. Are you calling Steve stupid? That's not nice. It's obviously not 'more important' if you want a manual gearbox and the ability to change the chassis behaviour, is it?
That's both Steve's and my point and nothing else.
Nothing wrong in choosing one option over another is there?
You are being over pedantic regarding this. :laugh:
It's good to look at the bigger picture sometimes. :smiley:
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Well put Ess_three! I totally agree :smiley:
You would, you pouncer! :grin:
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Thanks for all the replys,It does seem im in the wrong forum though,as i wrote originally it was my first post,Didnt realise it was mainly GTI based (suppose the clues were in all the avitars)anyway thanks again for input,Cheers
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suppose the clues were in all the avitars
...and in the URL :grin: Most of our comments apply to all Golfs, though.
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That's both Steve's and my point and nothing else.
Nothing wrong in choosing one option over another is there?
You are being over pedantic regarding this. :laugh:
It's good to look at the bigger picture sometimes. :smiley:
There is nothing wrong with choosing any of the options...I obviously mistakenly assumed you'd choose an option based upon what it does, not just to spend more or have more buttons!
The comment stands: comparing DSG and ACC is stupid...they are completely incomparable - different solutions to polar opposite problems.
That's not being pedantic...it seems straight forward and simple from where I'm sitting.
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Thanks for all the replys,It does seem im in the wrong forum though,as i wrote originally it was my first post,Didnt realise it was mainly GTI based (suppose the clues were in all the avitars)anyway thanks again for input,Cheers
Heh, you are welcome to stay here in this forum with us, we don't just talk GTI we welcome all Golf owners alike.
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Steveboy: As Gizzy says and Froggy has explained, stay with us. We are quite a mad, emotional and warm lot! You'll love it!
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thanks for the kind words gents,I will be lurking
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Thanks for all the replys,It does seem im in the wrong forum though,as i wrote originally it was my first post,Didnt realise it was mainly GTI based (suppose the clues were in all the avitars)anyway thanks again for input,Cheers
Heh, you are welcome to stay here in this forum with us, we don't just talk GTI we welcome all Golf owners alike.
Gizzy does that include GTD owners?? :grin:
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Thanks for all the replys,It does seem im in the wrong forum though,as i wrote originally it was my first post,Didnt realise it was mainly GTI based (suppose the clues were in all the avitars)anyway thanks again for input,Cheers
Heh, you are welcome to stay here in this forum with us, we don't just talk GTI we welcome all Golf owners alike.
Gizzy does that include GTD owners?? :grin:
What's it worth? :evil:
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one off the lights somewhere ??? :grin:
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one off the lights somewhere ??? :grin:
Front or rear? :evil:
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one off the lights somewhere ??? :grin:
You've lost me now :smiley:
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one off the lights somewhere ??? :grin:
You've lost me now :smiley:
You said whats it worth , i say meet me at the lights somewhere? :grin:
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one off the lights somewhere ??? :grin:
You've lost me now :smiley:
You said whats it worth , i say meet me at the lights somewhere? :grin:
Stevie baby, Ia's your daddy and Ia's not going to allow it 'cause Ai knows too much and Ia's going to re-map your little engine if you do, honey child.
She's mai b!tch and Ia's her dood. Man, yous way off line!
:laugh:
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one off the lights somewhere ??? :grin:
You've lost me now :smiley:
You said whats it worth , i say meet me at the lights somewhere? :grin:
Stevie baby, Ia's your daddy and Ia's not going to allow it 'cause Ai knows too much and Ia's going to re-map your little engine if you do, honey child.
She's mai b!tch and Ia's her dood. Man, yous way off line!
:laugh:
You hear that man child? we got somethin goin down. You ain't allowed to fraternise with another mans woman :grin:
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one off the lights somewhere ??? :grin:
You've lost me now :smiley:
You said whats it worth , i say meet me at the lights somewhere? :grin:
Stevie baby, Ia's your daddy and Ia's not going to allow it 'cause Ai knows too much and Ia's going to re-map your little engine if you do, honey child.
She's mai b!tch and Ia's her dood. Man, yous way off line!
:laugh:
You hear that man child? we got somethin goin down. You ain't allowed to fraternise with another mans woman :grin:
You tell the dog honey as it is 'cause Ia's your man. :grin:
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one off the lights somewhere ??? :grin:
You've lost me now :smiley:
You said whats it worth , i say meet me at the lights somewhere? :grin:
Stevie baby, Ia's your daddy and Ia's not going to allow it 'cause Ai knows too much and Ia's going to re-map your little engine if you do, honey child.
She's mai b!tch and Ia's her dood. Man, yous way off line!
:laugh:
You hear that man child? we got somethin goin down. You ain't allowed to fraternise with another mans woman :grin:
You tell the dog honey as it is 'cause Ia's your man. :grin:
Ia told him man, Ia told him :grin: