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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: harvey183 on 17 August 2010, 19:52

Title: 3000 miles and one new starter motor!
Post by: harvey183 on 17 August 2010, 19:52
Hi all!

Well going to pick my GTD up tomorrow as had a few problems with it, but the most intresting one was this!

Started about a week ago when you started the engine it would make a constant noise sounded like some sort of pump/electric motor, quite lound coming from under air box/battery/gearbox area! Then even when you stopped the car took the key out it would still do it from anything from 1 to 2 minutes after stopping the car! While this noise was going on with the key out of the car there were no warning lights and if you tried to start the car it wouldn't, so wait fo the noise to stop then start the car and all was fine again. It did this about half a dozen times before it went into the dealers. My mechanical knowledge is quite good and the only thing I could think of was the aux water pump (sounded to loud though) or the starter motor, but as we all know soon as the starter motor runs the starter gear engages? maybe new ones don't work like this? I'm picking it up tomorrow and they have replaced the starter motor so hope this cures it! just thought I would let you all know in case anyone else has the same problem! :smiley:
Title: Re: 3000 miles and one new starter motor!
Post by: ronnie'C' on 17 August 2010, 20:55
Starter motor?? even after you take the key out and the engine has stopped. Would be good to hear what VW say the problem was!
Title: Re: 3000 miles and one new starter motor!
Post by: harvey183 on 17 August 2010, 20:59
Well thats exactly what I thought! key out of the car, doors shut and still making the noise! they said they have replaced the starter motor? :huh:
Title: Re: 3000 miles and one new starter motor!
Post by: Keithuk on 17 August 2010, 21:43
Thats interesting Harvey.  :wink:
Title: Re: 3000 miles and one new starter motor!
Post by: KennyGTI on 19 August 2010, 07:30
Sounds like thw water pump. Continues to pump after the engine is off, although that doesn't explain the engine not starting after you stop the car! Am sure you have your upmost faith on vw solving it!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 3000 miles and one new starter motor!
Post by: Keithuk on 19 August 2010, 20:01
Sounds like thw water pump. Continues to pump after the engine is off,
I don't think so Kenny.

Since when have VW used electric water pumps? The GTD water pump is belt driven and it £122. I know they use electric thermostats by that I mean electrically regulated not a motor.   :wink:
Title: Re: 3000 miles and one new starter motor!
Post by: KennyGTI on 19 August 2010, 20:51
You sure there isn't an auxiliary pump that runs after the engine turns off? My polo 1.8t had one.
Title: Re: 3000 miles and one new starter motor!
Post by: mike. on 19 August 2010, 21:15
Yes, it says it in the Engine Study Document

Quote
After-Run Coolant Pump V51 protects the
turbocharger bearings from overheating after engine
shut-off.

It seems to run for about five minutes after switching off.
Title: Re: 3000 miles and one new starter motor!
Post by: KennyGTI on 19 August 2010, 21:35
Thought so. Heard the one in my Polo go all the time.
Title: Re: 3000 miles and one new starter motor!
Post by: harvey183 on 20 August 2010, 07:28
Thats what I thought at first, aux water pump, but the noise was far too loud! anyway starter motor replaced and no problems yet! still don't see how it was doing it? :huh:
Title: Re: 3000 miles and one new starter motor!
Post by: ronnie'C' on 20 August 2010, 12:09
anyway starter motor replaced and no problems yet :huh:

thats a strange one
Title: Re: 3000 miles and one new starter motor!
Post by: Keithuk on 20 August 2010, 12:28
You sure there isn't an auxiliary pump that runs after the engine turns off? My polo 1.8t had one.
An auxiliary pump to do what? There may be one on the Polo Kenny but it won't be a water pump.  :wink:
Title: Re: 3000 miles and one new starter motor!
Post by: KennyGTI on 21 August 2010, 10:03
You sure there isn't an auxiliary pump that runs after the engine turns off? My polo 1.8t had one.
An auxiliary pump to do what? There may be one on the Polo Kenny but it won't be a water pump.  :wink:

Think about it Keith for a second. Your driving your car pretty hard over some back roads, into the high rev range in all the gears, turbo is spooling liek mad etc then you stop and turn your engine off, what cools the turbo and engine? This little chap I have posted below (click on link below). Its there to keep the oil cool so the oil doest cook your turbo shaft! These can run for up to 10 mins.

http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-Golf_IV--1.8T/Engine/Cooling/Water_Pump/ES2710/

Feel free to have a look about google if you still doubt me  :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

Title: Re: 3000 miles and one new starter motor!
Post by: entropy on 21 August 2010, 10:52
ha sounds like your car was built on a Monday!
Title: Re: 3000 miles and one new starter motor!
Post by: Keithuk on 21 August 2010, 11:40

http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-Golf_IV--1.8T/Engine/Cooling/Water_Pump/ES2710/

Feel free to have a look about google if you still doubt me
I'm not doubting you Kenny its something I've never heard of. You learn something everyday. That may have been fitted on some engines but not the GTD engine.

Harvey was saying that a new starter motor cured his faulty noise.  :wink:
Title: Re: 3000 miles and one new starter motor!
Post by: Ess_Three on 21 August 2010, 11:45
I'm not doubting you Kenny its something I've never heard of. You learn something everyday. That may have been fitted on some engines but not the GTD engine.


Te run on pumps aren't fitted to the Diesels I don't think...I believe it's to do with the much lower EGTs on diesels, and hence the turbos don't get as hot, so don't need it.