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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: KennyGTI on 15 August 2010, 10:01

Title: No Beading
Post by: KennyGTI on 15 August 2010, 10:01
Gave the car a polish and wax lastweekend, second time its been done and i have noticed that i dont get any good beading after it rains or in the mornings with the condensation. I use AG HD wax with it superb, used it on my Polo and it would last for ages with a nice beading effect but this is not the case with the Golf, it just looks dull and unwaxed  :sad:  :sad: Is it maybe down to the fact its not metalic paint? This is the first non metalic car i have owned.

Polo after HD wax:

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f226/kenny1601/LGIM0160.jpg)
Title: Re: No Beading
Post by: Steve30 on 15 August 2010, 10:18
Great beading there Kenny!! Post it in detail section you will get a better response there??? Dodo Sn is better than Aghd IMO !! :wink:
Title: Re: No Beading
Post by: gossa on 15 August 2010, 11:15
I got pretty good beading with AGHD on my tornado red but i've switched now to Dodo which gives better beading, easier to apply and remove and smells much nicer!

Not a lover of AGHD, especially for the price.
Title: Re: No Beading
Post by: endy on 15 August 2010, 11:31
i noticed this the first week i got my car but i thought it might just be me.Definitely must be because of the non metallic :sad:
Title: Re: No Beading
Post by: Dawnskaybug on 15 August 2010, 20:56
Your not applying wax to the paint. Your applying it to the clearcoat.  :undecided:
Title: Re: No Beading
Post by: KennyGTI on 16 August 2010, 08:30
What do you mean applying it to a clear coat?
Title: Re: No Beading
Post by: mike. on 16 August 2010, 09:03
He just means that all cars are now painted with a clear coat over the base colour whether metallic or not.

So it is actually the clear coat you are polishing.  :smiley:

I have had two tornado red Golfs now and when polished they almost look wet, maybe it's the type of wax/polish you are using.
Title: Re: No Beading
Post by: endy on 16 August 2010, 12:18
Your not applying wax to the paint. Your applying it to the clearcoat.  :undecided:

dam that is true maybe its the grease stuff they put on for transport. Time to strip every thing off then i guess
Title: Re: No Beading
Post by: RickS on 16 August 2010, 12:37
Your not applying wax to the paint. Your applying it to the clearcoat.  :undecided:

dam that is true maybe its the grease stuff they put on for transport. Time to strip every thing off then i guess
All that will have been removed before you took delivery. Maybe try a different wax? Try either Meguiars Deep Crystal Carnauba wax or NXT Tech 2.0. Both of these give a great shine and water beads off superbly.
I've just sent for some Collinite 476S to see how that compares - reviews give it top marks for shine and beading
Title: Re: No Beading
Post by: mike. on 16 August 2010, 12:44
I have used Collinite 476S and can confirm it is excellent, excellent beading, great shine and seems to last for ages
Great for the Monzas during the winter months..  :smiley:
Title: Re: No Beading
Post by: Steve30 on 16 August 2010, 13:25
I have used Collinite 476S and can confirm it is excellent, excellent beading, great shine and seems to last for ages
Great for the Monzas during the winter months..  :smiley:

I just coated my vancoovers in colli yesterday put loads on there come up brilliant, but I use Dodo supper on the car amazing stuff  :cool:
Title: Re: No Beading
Post by: mike. on 16 August 2010, 14:50
Is that the stuff in the wooden jar, not to cheap  :shocked:

I have tried the Hard Candy, does a good job as well.
It makes you hungry when you are applying it as it smells like sweets..  :laugh:
Title: Re: No Beading
Post by: Steve30 on 16 August 2010, 14:52
Is that the stuff in the wooden jar, not to cheap  :shocked:

I have tried the Hard Candy, does a good job as well.
It makes you hungry when you are applying it as it smells like sweets..  :laugh:

Yes that's the stuff, much better than AGHD but then its twice the cost so it should be  :cool:

I think you only get what you pay for when it comes to wax's??
Title: Re: No Beading
Post by: countrytrucker on 19 August 2010, 09:27

What shampoo has been used on the car? If cheaper stuff has been used, this could be the cause.

I like AG HD but I use Blackfire wax on my car. It gives a great finish that lasts almost as long as the AG HD.
Title: Re: No Beading
Post by: Dawnskaybug on 19 August 2010, 21:37

What shampoo has been used on the car? If cheaper stuff has been used, this could be the cause.

I like AG HD but I use Blackfire wax on my car. It gives a great finish that lasts almost as long as the AG HD.


Good point with the shampoo...
Title: Re: No Beading
Post by: endy on 19 August 2010, 22:39
is there any shampoo that you guys recommend? atm i am using dodo born to be mild but its actually quite expensive for how much you get
Title: Re: No Beading
Post by: FroGTI on 20 August 2010, 09:08
Norwegian acid rain drifting across the North Sea? :smiley:
Title: Re: No Beading
Post by: javalin on 20 August 2010, 13:28
clean the wax off (fairly liquid?) and apply some jetseal 109, then apply dodo supernatural and it'll bead like never before!

J
Title: Re: No Beading
Post by: Steve30 on 20 August 2010, 13:44
clean the wax off (fairly liquid?) and apply some jetseal 109, then apply dodo supernatural and it'll bead like never before!

J

I wouldnt use fairy liquid on my motor to harsh , this is used for grease off dish's ???  :huh:
Title: Re: No Beading
Post by: Dawnskaybug on 20 August 2010, 14:36
clean the wax off (fairly liquid?) and apply some jetseal 109, then apply dodo supernatural and it'll bead like never before!

J

I wouldnt use fairy liquid on my motor to harsh , this is used for grease off dish's ???  :huh:

the PH in the soap removes the old wax. Its a safe wax stripper.  In the US they call this "Dawn Wash" as Dawn detergent works
Title: Re: No Beading
Post by: javalin on 20 August 2010, 14:41
yeah - wouldn't do it regularly, but probably ok for a once off.  You just need to clear the wax off so the sealant will "stick"

my mk3 looks like this after:

(http://javalins.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/hmm_golfmk31.jpg)

 :smiley:

J
Title: Re: No Beading
Post by: MDSS MK6 on 20 August 2010, 16:07
If you're going to do it properly, get a soft clay bar kit like this

 http://www.waxamomo.co.uk/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=322&idcategory=4

Much better way to clean up any old wax & a load of other bonded on rubbish. It also leaves you a perfect smooth surface. Give it another wash, then do 2 layers at least an hr apart of whatever wax you go for (and the dodo range all come in small sample pots that'll do a good few cars, so you can try without spending much cash). Colly might last a bit longer, but the dodo rocks looks wise). :cool:
Title: Re: No Beading
Post by: javalin on 20 August 2010, 16:10
yeah deffo clay it first! :-)
Title: Re: No Beading
Post by: am1w on 20 August 2010, 19:29
I am so daft and blind that I thought the post said 'No bleeding'! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: No Beading
Post by: musicman87 on 24 August 2010, 12:21
Its all in the prep. Definitely clay it all over, then polish with some decent stuff.

2 thin coats of Jetseal109 - (I used it for the first time this weekend, brilliant stuff, makes the car shine so much deeper)
Then top it off with a coat or two of Wax. I use Meguiars Techwax 2.0 and this is good, i get good beading, but AGHD should be ok. I have a mate who uses is on his Clio 172 and his beads loads!
Title: Re: No Beading
Post by: KennyGTI on 24 August 2010, 12:29
Just done a full detail (clay, machine polish, AGHD to finish) on someones Clio CUP at the weekend and it came up like new! Lots of beading afterwards! Made my Golf feel very jealous!  :undecided:
Title: Re: No Beading
Post by: javalin on 24 August 2010, 13:06
just your GTI to do now then....  :smiley:
Title: Re: No Beading
Post by: KennyGTI on 24 August 2010, 16:41
I know, but don't get paid for doing my own!  :grin: