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Title: removing buffer swirls help
Post by: javalin on 12 August 2010, 08:27
Morning all,

Used my Megs G220 last night on the GF's Black Ford Fusion bonnet (to get rid of oxidation marks - may have seen a previous post by me) and it worked really well.  But...  I am left with some buffer swirls and just want to check whats the best way to remove them.

I used a Megs cutting pad (7") http://www.monzacarcare.com/machine-polishing-2/meguiars-w7207--foam-cutting-pad/0/ (http://www.monzacarcare.com/machine-polishing-2/meguiars-w7207--foam-cutting-pad/0/)with the std 5" backing plate, and megs swirl free polish 82 (http://www.monzacarcare.com/machine-polishing-2/meguiars-mirror-glaze-swirl-free-polish-82/0/ (http://www.monzacarcare.com/machine-polishing-2/meguiars-mirror-glaze-swirl-free-polish-82/0/)).  I used speed 3-4 on the dial - a bit quick maybe?  Pad was primed with Megs Quick detailer spray.

The buffer swirls are not deep or anything, just looks like outer edge of the pad has "cut" more than the middle - leaving large half circles.  As its a black car - it shows up!

Bit of googling this morning implies going over it again with a finishing pad an a low speed (1-2 on the dial).  Is that a good idea?  What compound should I use - the no.82 again?

Any other constructive advice welcome.

Thanks for the help!!

James
Title: Re: removing buffer swirls help
Post by: Dan J on 12 August 2010, 09:36
hi james you basically need some finishing polish and a finnessing pad, your buffer trails have occured through too much pressure and your cutting pad was proberly a tad too stiff and dry, finishing pads are very soft and the finishing polish will tease the trails out,
use very lite pressure and dont move across the panel too fast just nice smooth sweeping motions.
Title: Re: removing buffer swirls help
Post by: javalin on 12 August 2010, 09:52
brilliant - thanks Dan - can you recommend one?  I usually stick with the megs stuff.

http://www.monzacarcare.com/machine-polisher-g220-meguiars-buff-daddy-dodo-juice/meguiars-m205-ultra-finishing-polish/0/ (http://www.monzacarcare.com/machine-polisher-g220-meguiars-buff-daddy-dodo-juice/meguiars-m205-ultra-finishing-polish/0/)

???

James
Title: Re: removing buffer swirls help
Post by: Dan J on 12 August 2010, 10:12
try any of these mate

http://www.i4detailing.co.uk/acatalog/britemax_black_max_1.html
http://www.i4detailing.co.uk/acatalog/Menzerna_Final_Finish_PO85RE5_250ml_1.html
http://www.i4detailing.co.uk/acatalog/Dodo_Juice_Lime_Prime_1.html
http://www.i4detailing.co.uk/acatalog/Festool_150mm_Pads.html
http://www.i4detailing.co.uk/acatalog/3M_150mm_Pads_1.html

i use all off these as they produce very good results.

depending on how bad your buffer trails are and if theres little to no defects left you proberly would get away with using a glaze on a finishing pad.
Title: Re: removing buffer swirls help
Post by: javalin on 12 August 2010, 10:53
thanks Dan.  I see i4detailing are (annoyingly) shut this week...

Would you recommend staying with the no.82 from megs as a light cut polish or switch to a different one?  I ask cause i4detailing have the bits you recommend, but I'll also need some more no.82 soon, and don't want to place orders with multiple suppliers - to save postage really.

J
Title: Re: removing buffer swirls help
Post by: Dan J on 12 August 2010, 12:06
Matt who runs i4 will be back off holiday this week i think so if you can hold fire he will sort you out failing that go to elite as they stock most of the above bar the britemax range. i dont use megs polishes at all as theres better out tbh, menzerna and 3m polishes are the ones to get for vag/bmw paints. i see where your coming from on postage costs :rolleyes:
Title: Re: removing buffer swirls help
Post by: kells on 12 August 2010, 17:15
+1 on megs stuff and been better stuff out their, i personally really dont like megs stuff, i feel half the cost goes into fancy packaging and brand name

Dodo Juice  :cool:
Title: Re: removing buffer swirls help
Post by: javalin on 12 August 2010, 18:44
ordering some Menzerna stuff and some of their 135mm pads.  The megs 7" one seems to not fit very well on the 5" plat and oscillates - can't be good.

Cheers.
Title: Re: removing buffer swirls help
Post by: Guy on 12 August 2010, 23:11
i use 3m pads and the ultrafina polish is an brilliant finishing polish  :wink:
Title: Re: removing buffer swirls help
Post by: javalin on 13 August 2010, 21:02
now thats interesting...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrse_DBaUbc&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrse_DBaUbc&feature=player_embedded)

When they use the G220 their backing pad looks bigger than my standard 5" one, and their pad doesn't wobble everywhere so he gets a good contact....

James
Title: Re: removing buffer swirls help
Post by: Guy on 14 August 2010, 00:25
now thats interesting...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrse_DBaUbc&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrse_DBaUbc&feature=player_embedded)

When they use the G220 their backing pad looks bigger than my standard 5" one, and their pad doesn't wobble everywhere so he gets a good contact....

James

fcuk me!!! how much polish is he applying? thats enough to polish a third world country!!  :shocked:
Title: Re: removing buffer swirls help
Post by: Dan J on 14 August 2010, 22:31
now thats interesting...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrse_DBaUbc&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrse_DBaUbc&feature=player_embedded)

When they use the G220 their backing pad looks bigger than my standard 5" one, and their pad doesn't wobble everywhere so he gets a good contact....

James

fcuk me!!! how much polish is he applying? thats enough to polish a third world country!!  :shocked:

 :laugh:   :laugh:

Title: Re: removing buffer swirls help
Post by: javalin on 16 August 2010, 21:38
one of these should do it!

http://www.i4detailing.co.uk/acatalog/148mm_Dual_Action_Backing_Plate.html (http://www.i4detailing.co.uk/acatalog/148mm_Dual_Action_Backing_Plate.html)