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Title: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: GlennQuagmire on 04 August 2010, 15:31
Hi

I would like to hear from you guys (or gals) who've made the change from V to VI about your experiences with the VI compared to the V.

I will hunt for a new GTI next year and then it will be the VI instead of my V.

The V have a short number of problems that I would like to know if they've fixed.

First of all it's the overall noise level within the car, it's very high on uneven surfaces which I have to endure. How is this in the VI?

Rattles? The V (at least my -07) have ALOT of rattles. How's the VI?

DCC? Is is worth it? Will it soften the ride even on rough tarmac where the most rattles are produced? Or will it just take care of the low frequency vibrations?

Thanks
Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: Ess_Three on 04 August 2010, 15:39

DCC? Is is worth it? Will it soften the ride even on rough tarmac where the most rattles are produced? Or will it just take care of the low frequency vibrations?

Thanks

From ones I've driven, the Mk6 seems a little less raw, more polished in the damping/handling.
I have no squeaks in my Mk6, but then my mates with Mk5s don't either.

ACC is great for pot holed city roads if you put it in Comfort, or really bad back roads...but press on with in in Comfort and the car floats about, lurching and wallowing - not nice.
Great for awful roads though.

Normal is where I have it most - it's pretty good for 90% of driving.

On a decent smooth back road Sport not only firms the chassis up, it makes the steering respond better and makes the rear come into play more...you can throw it about and feel the rear just edging out each time. Good fun...but probably too harsh for poor roads. But if you want to really throw your GTI about, and want it to turn in better and wag it's tail...Sport lets you do it easier.
Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: GolfTi on 04 August 2010, 15:46
Mk5 is a fantastic car. The mk6 is just that little bit better in almost every way.

Noise levels are that of a much more luxurious car as is the cabin.

DCC (or is it ACC) is the best option I got with mine. The ride is much smoother in comfort than the mk5 was and when the mood takes you - a harsher ride in sport mode for a bit more fun.

Early minor rattles & squeaks sorted with rubber spray.
Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: Steve30 on 04 August 2010, 15:54
I Came from an Ed30 to mk6 and its so much more refined and a better cabin, ACC is great to have but DSG is better IMO. Less tyre noise too. MK6 is a big improvement !!
Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: Ess_Three on 04 August 2010, 16:02
I Came from an Ed30 to mk6 and its so much more refined and a better cabin, ACC is great to have but DSG is better IMO. Less tyre noise too. MK6 is a big improvement !!

Apples and oranges though...
DSG might be great as a gearbox but it's bugger all use for fine tuning the handling and ride!

Being objective, I'd say DSG makes you quicker in a straight line, whereas ACC makes you quicker in the twisties and more comfortable on v poor roads.

I agree, Mk6 has a better cabin.

Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: VWKev on 04 August 2010, 16:06
Both great cars. Thats all I'm saying.
Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: Steve30 on 04 August 2010, 16:15
I Came from an Ed30 to mk6 and its so much more refined and a better cabin, ACC is great to have but DSG is better IMO. Less tyre noise too. MK6 is a big improvement !!

Apples and oranges though...
DSG might be great as a gearbox but it's bugger all use for fine tuning the handling and ride!

Being objective, I'd say DSG makes you quicker in a straight line, whereas ACC makes you quicker in the twisties and more comfortable on v poor roads.

I agree, Mk6 has a better cabin.



Mines an Orange ess3 :laugh: DSG maybe quicker but only if you use LC in a straight line !!
Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: Exonian on 04 August 2010, 16:48
I love my mk6 but loved my mk5 too. No particular preference between them as they are so similar!
MK6 definately better on fuel though. Slightly nicer dash and upper cabin trim but it's all black so makes the car look very dark inside.
I don't have ACC so can't comment but I find the ride and handling very good. The car would look a bit nicer lowered but as the car drives so well as standard I'm leaving well alone (probably).
So in the end it's all down to ££££££
Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: matchboy on 04 August 2010, 17:14
Loved my mk 5 GTI, love my mk 6 GTI.  :smiley:

IMO, mk 6 is better:  quicker, better finish inside (mk 5 looks dated now), handling is sharper, exhaust noise is niiiice :cool:

mk 5 paintwork was much better however, mk6 paint is sh1te  :angry:

both great cars though!!

 :smiley:

Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: adw555 on 04 August 2010, 17:59
loved my mk 5 and the mk6 even more. Nicer place to be inside, cracker engine note and doesn't sound like a diesel on tickover ;-)
Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: R32UK on 04 August 2010, 18:05
would just like to highlight the point that the mk6 is ALOT more economical that the mk5. Had a mk5 dsg and could only manage 26-28mpg at best.. mk6 you can easily see 40+MPG
Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: GlennQuagmire on 04 August 2010, 18:08
Great answers, thanks!

What's up with the paint quality on the MKVI? Is it really that bad?
Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: R32UK on 04 August 2010, 18:16
Great answers, thanks!

What's up with the paint quality on the MKVI? Is it really that bad?

some people have had issues... mine is grrrrreat :evil:
Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: Steve30 on 04 August 2010, 18:22
Great answers, thanks!

What's up with the paint quality on the MKVI? Is it really that bad?

Only on the flat colour's like candy white, metalics are ok so i'm told!! Its just to thin on my car around the front and its picking up stone chips easly !! :angry:
Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: VWKev on 04 August 2010, 18:56
Well, I've been all over my car with my PTG, and I range from 130-160 microns in lots of places, obvious inside doors etc its a bit lower. Mine is white and I cant really see how you can prevent a stone chip. If crap hits your car, its gonna chip it.
Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: Steve30 on 04 August 2010, 19:33
Well, I've been all over my car with my PTG, and I range from 130-160 microns in lots of places, obvious inside doors etc its a bit lower. Mine is white and I cant really see how you can prevent a stone chip. If crap hits your car, its gonna chip it.

Well I have more stone chips on my motor which has done 4k than any other GTI, and ive had 5 of them over the last 6rys?? My last car (ed30) had 4 chips on the front and I did 12k miles. The mk6 has about 7 already pepered around the front end?? Auto express car red mk6 the biggest complaint they made was around stone chips but a great car to drive!! Id like you to check my motor out with your gadget Kev see what you think?  :wink:
Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: mike. on 04 August 2010, 19:45
Just changed to the MK6 after 5 years in a MKV (loved it)

Just seems more of the same but better:

Better finished inside.
Seats more comfortable (both had cloth)
Nicer exhaust sound.
DSG down changes much faster, box seems more responsive.
Seems to tuck in better on fast corners when pushing on, probably the XDS working.
Rear LED lights (oh yes I added those  :grin:)
Reversing Camera (oh I added that as well!!)
No problems with the paint, looks no different from the MK5
Black inserts in the Monzas look well with the red car.

Things not so sure about..

Air vent reflections in the side windows, might look at getting black surrounds.
Miss the dipping left hand mirror, used to be standard.
Tyre pressure monitoring system used to be standard as well..
Where did the rear cargo net go.
"D" mode in DSG is more like half sport now. Liked the lazier changing of the previous one as I only used it in traffic.
Rear tinted gangsta windows.
Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: ErikGTI on 04 August 2010, 20:26
I agree (have been in the same situation)..

You are not saying I missed the feature of the dipping mirror on the MK V....!!!!!!....I realy think it did not come standard.... :undecided:
Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: am1w on 04 August 2010, 21:10
I've never owned a VW or a Golf. The Mk6 GTi is my first VW.

The car's very good. I have no issues with the paint. Fit and finish very good. Some of the lower level internal plastics could be better. Expensive once you opt for many of the options. The engine is a peach. Very smooth and very flexible. Controlling it with the manual gearbox is an utter pleasure.

My favourite addition is ACC/DCC. It is brilliant as the car's dynamics can match one's mood so effectively.
If I may, I disagree with Ess_Three that the car tends to float in 'comfort' mode. This could be misconstrued for that 'big car feel' which it certainly has in this mode.

No rattles so far and I look forward every day to drive it. It's more or less all things to all men and women, I presume.

Oh, it's much better looking than the Mk5 by a fair margin IMO.

I can say, buy with confidence.
Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: VWKev on 05 August 2010, 10:50
Well, I've been all over my car with my PTG, and I range from 130-160 microns in lots of places, obvious inside doors etc its a bit lower. Mine is white and I cant really see how you can prevent a stone chip. If crap hits your car, its gonna chip it.

Well I have more stone chips on my motor which has done 4k than any other GTI, and ive had 5 of them over the last 6rys?? My last car (ed30) had 4 chips on the front and I did 12k miles. The mk6 has about 7 already pepered around the front end?? Auto express car red mk6 the biggest complaint they made was around stone chips but a great car to drive!! Id like you to check my motor out with your gadget Kev see what you think?  :wink:

Shame your in London or I would have had no problems checking your motor out with my tool  :tongue:
Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: Ess_Three on 05 August 2010, 10:55
Well, I've been all over my car with my PTG, and I range from 130-160 microns in lots of places, obvious inside doors etc its a bit lower. Mine is white and I cant really see how you can prevent a stone chip. If crap hits your car, its gonna chip it.

PD8 Kev?
Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: Steve30 on 05 August 2010, 11:36
Well, I've been all over my car with my PTG, and I range from 130-160 microns in lots of places, obvious inside doors etc its a bit lower. Mine is white and I cant really see how you can prevent a stone chip. If crap hits your car, its gonna chip it.

Well I have more stone chips on my motor which has done 4k than any other GTI, and ive had 5 of them over the last 6rys?? My last car (ed30) had 4 chips on the front and I did 12k miles. The mk6 has about 7 already pepered around the front end?? Auto express car red mk6 the biggest complaint they made was around stone chips but a great car to drive!! Id like you to check my motor out with your gadget Kev see what you think?  :wink:

Shame your in London or I would have had no problems checking your motor out with my tool  :tongue:

Give us a shout when your at a spurs game come meet you??
Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: Ess_Three on 05 August 2010, 11:54
My favourite addition is ACC/DCC. It is brilliant as the car's dynamics can match one's mood so effectively.
If I may, I disagree with Ess_Three that the car tends to float in 'comfort' mode. This could be misconstrued for that 'big car feel' which it certainly has in this mode.

Round town, in 30 MPH limits, there are no issues.
But forget to turn it off, and try a decent twisty back road...and it feels like a 1980s Merc...wallowing and flopping all over the place.
Big car feel indeed...  :undecided:

At low speeds I notice no issues, or at higher speeds on motorways...it's just not suited to throwing the car down a challenging backroad....but why would you want to in 'Comfort' anyway?
Isn't that what 'Sport' is for.

Regardless, I wasn't sure how much the character of the car would change in each mode...and when new with non-run in dampers, it was hard to tell.
Now though, there are 3 distinct sets of behaviour.

Well worth the cash in my view.
Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: VWKev on 05 August 2010, 12:16
Well, I've been all over my car with my PTG, and I range from 130-160 microns in lots of places, obvious inside doors etc its a bit lower. Mine is white and I cant really see how you can prevent a stone chip. If crap hits your car, its gonna chip it.

PD8 Kev?

Thats the fella yeah  :smiley:
Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: Ess_Three on 05 August 2010, 12:20

Thats the fella yeah  :smiley:

Nice! Same here...
Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: am1w on 05 August 2010, 13:39
My favourite addition is ACC/DCC. It is brilliant as the car's dynamics can match one's mood so effectively.
If I may, I disagree with Ess_Three that the car tends to float in 'comfort' mode. This could be misconstrued for that 'big car feel' which it certainly has in this mode.

Round town, in 30 MPH limits, there are no issues.
But forget to turn it off, and try a decent twisty back road...and it feels like a 1980s Merc...wallowing and flopping all over the place.
Big car feel indeed...  :undecided:
At low speeds I notice no issues, or at higher speeds on motorways...it's just not suited to throwing the car down a challenging backroad....but why would you want to in 'Comfort' anyway?
Isn't that what 'Sport' is for.
Regardless, I wasn't sure how much the character of the car would change in each mode...and when new with non-run in dampers, it was hard to tell.
Now though, there are 3 distinct sets of behaviour
.
Well worth the cash in my view.

Absolutely perfect observation. :smiley:
Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: illyun on 05 August 2010, 17:06
My favourite addition is ACC/DCC. It is brilliant as the car's dynamics can match one's mood so effectively.
If I may, I disagree with Ess_Three that the car tends to float in 'comfort' mode. This could be misconstrued for that 'big car feel' which it certainly has in this mode.

Round town, in 30 MPH limits, there are no issues.
But forget to turn it off, and try a decent twisty back road...and it feels like a 1980s Merc...wallowing and flopping all over the place.
Big car feel indeed...  :undecided:
At low speeds I notice no issues, or at higher speeds on motorways...it's just not suited to throwing the car down a challenging backroad....but why would you want to in 'Comfort' anyway?
Isn't that what 'Sport' is for.
Regardless, I wasn't sure how much the character of the car would change in each mode...and when new with non-run in dampers, it was hard to tell.
Now though, there are 3 distinct sets of behaviour
.
Well worth the cash in my view.

Absolutely perfect observation. :smiley:

Damn... I knew I should have had the ACC.  I tried a demo car that VW Wolsey kindly provided me for the day last May and I couldn't tell the difference between Normal and Sport, although there was a difference between comfort and sport, but not that much, which made me think that ACC was a bit of a gimmick.  However, reading all the reviews and the statements above, I wish my Mk6 was spec'd with it, not that I had a choice though as I am getting the standards middle eastern 'base spec' which has everything except for ACC and RNS510.  There is only a 5 day wait for the base spec as the car is at Jeddah port in Saudi - Base spec costs 119,000 Saudi Riyals (6000 Riyal discount for the month of Ramadan) which is about 19,950 pounds .  I would have to wait 3 months for a 'customised' spec and pay a lot more to just for ACC as the customised base spec is same as UK base spec and the price starts at 110,000 Saudi Riyals for that.
Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: p3eps on 05 August 2010, 20:20
Miss the dipping left hand mirror, used to be standard.

I never had this in my MK5, but do in my MK6.  I think its only standard if you have the folding mirrors?
Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: Snoopy on 05 August 2010, 21:22
^ Or ordered the reverse parking sensors on the mk5 (depending on MY and what part of year). It often changed every 6 months what you got with what. I have all the leaflets from our mk5 days.
It sometimes creaps in on the mk6 with the parking sensor order too ot seems but not officially.
Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: JellyCat on 06 August 2010, 12:45
Had a GTI mk5 for a little over 3 years from new - loved it.

But.... wow love the Mk6. The cabin is for me where the best improvements where over the Mk5. The new dash and layout is a masive improvement. It's seems a reduced noise level, smoother tighter drive. Better on long motorways and great fun on A roads.
Wasn't bothered about increased speed etc - was the refinement and kit for me.

I terms of goodies, out of the ones I got, for me the top 3 items in order are:

1) 18" monza shaddows (IMO a major improvement over the standard rims - was lucky to see one with std 17" and one with 18" shaddows and it' was a big  improvement in looks I thought over the std.
2) Cruise control is a must, can't buy a car with out it.
3) RCD510 - major improvement over the std 300 series which looked naff - plus the rear view cam was buttons to buy and is a great and cool toy.

Got other stuff such as sunroof etc - but the above are my top 3. ACC - not really fussed. Tried x2 cars one with one without on extended test drives and struggled to spot the difference so didn't bother (for me would have been about the comfort element).


In a nutshell - loved the Mk6 and I'm very happy swapped to the Mk6 and not an S3etc.
Title: Re: Golf V GTI vs Golf VI GTI - after a while?
Post by: MAW73 on 06 August 2010, 14:57
Well, I've been all over my car with my PTG, and I range from 130-160 microns in lots of places, obvious inside doors etc its a bit lower. Mine is white and I cant really see how you can prevent a stone chip. If crap hits your car, its gonna chip it.

Well I have more stone chips on my motor which has done 4k than any other GTI, and ive had 5 of them over the last 6rys?? My last car (ed30) had 4 chips on the front and I did 12k miles. The mk6 has about 7 already pepered around the front end?? Auto express car red mk6 the biggest complaint they made was around stone chips but a great car to drive!! Id like you to check my motor out with your gadget Kev see what you think?  :wink:

Shame your in London or I would have had no problems checking your motor out with my tool  :tongue:

Give us a shout when your at a spurs game come meet you??

Spurs ?  :sick: :sick: :sick: