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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: palmer on 29 July 2010, 11:26
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just bought mk3 GTI 111000 miles no MOT
got gatage to put new timing belt on it --- when they did it they found the " tensioner " had seased up
anyway they sorted that out and she was running well --- but when doing MOT and reving her for the omissions test she just stopped --- no bangs or loud noises
now they tell me there is no compression on any cylinders !
they say things are still moving inside
I had put K seal in her anyway so the head gasket should not be the problem and any way this would not effect ALL cylinders
to me there must be an open valve in each cylinder
have asked them to take the haed off and see what they find
I need so ideas from you brain boxes out there ---- what can it be ????
confused Rob of Ganthill
cheers
boys
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Sounds like the belt has slipped or broke and it has bent valves.
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instant loss of compression on all 4, can only see that been a belt been incorrectly installed and jumping meany teeth very quickly must have managed to bend the valves
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If it has bent valves they should sort it foc if it was down to the belt which it sounds like it is.
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they tell me there was no loud or bad noises when it stopped !
have asked them to remove the head anyway --- so if it is the belt that has caused the problem and resulted in bent valves the garage should be responcible as they fitted the new belt ???
but will they admit that to me !!
I will wait to see that they say
just wondered if there might be some other item that would cause the same " symtems " of no compression ?
any thoughts and thanks
rob
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they tell me there was no loud or bad noises when it stopped !
have asked them to remove the head anyway --- so if it is the belt that has caused the problem and resulted in bent valves the garage should be responcible as they fitted the new belt ???
but will they admit that to me !!
I will wait to see that they say
just wondered if there might be some other item that would cause the same " symtems " of no compression ?
any thoughts and thanks
rob
If it has no compression then that suggests to me valves bent, not a lot more it can be to be honest.
If they fitted the belt wrong it is their fault 100%.
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I had had a fair few cam belts go on me and only once have i heard anything, usually it jams up and stops the engine dead, 9 times out of 10 when we have people with snapped belts come in they say " it just stalled and wont start again" So it does all add up to me, the belts not been fitted correctly by the sounds of it, and its done some serious damage to the top end.
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garage f**ked up hardcore. if it went in working fine and they changed the timming belt and while revving the belt snapped then the garage is responsible, its bent valves as wayne says. the garage is responsible, as you had left the car working in there garage. so the garage will have to fix the engine no mater what, it would cost about £400 to get the head rebuild, new valves and gaskets! make sure the garage gets a head gasket kit it will consist of all the seals that are required (intake, outlet, rocker cover seal cam seal, the works) costs about £80. also replace the steamvalve seals too! as after 140k or so the engine will start to burn oil. so id advise that. hope that helps
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thank you boys for all the info !!!
they are taking the head off so we will see what that shows
my worry is that I am not there to actually see what is what
/ is belt broken or off ?
in the past they have been good with me so hopefully they will come clean
thought I was doing the right thing getting the belt changed
so we see
thanks again to you all
Rob
ps is the 2E engine any worse or better than the newer mobiles