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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: KennyGTI on 28 July 2010, 20:42
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Starting to get fed up with this boost issue I have on my Golf! Just wondering how many of us have this also before contacting them about this!
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symptoms?
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I wouldn't be going anywhere near Revo, sounds like bloody nightmare :sick:
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symptoms?
A yellow discharge. :sick:
Sorry Gilly, could not resist. :grin:
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I wouldn't be going anywhere near Revo, sounds like bloody nightmare :sick:
Stick with the standard car and preserve the warranty.
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Bigtime problems, VW couldn't sort anything as they couldnt reproduce the fault in "stock" mode. Been moaning since day1, Ive gotten nowhere. Im about ready to just flush my £600 remap down toilet and get a custom one from a guy in sheffield. I dont wna push VW incase they start looking at the ECU, Ide rather pay a guy privately, So if any1 here is up to the job PM me and ill come c u asap.
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symptoms?
Boost on/off issue. Getting very annoying :angry: Never had this problem as standard so i know its down to the map.
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symptoms?
Boost on/off issue. Getting very annoying :angry: Never had this problem as standard so i know its down to the map.
Are you 100% sure you haven't got a faulty part on the car? If there's a slight weakness in any part a remap will amplify the problem as it exploits the weakness.
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Just seems very odd that its happening to all cars with REVO plus according to SteveP they know about it. Had the car on VAG COM and everything seems fine. Maybe do some runs recording the boost :undecided:
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Just seems very odd that its happening to all cars with REVO plus according to SteveP they know about it. Had the car on VAG COM and everything seems fine. Maybe do some runs recording the boost :undecided:
Interesting
Think its block 110 or 115 in VAGCOM on the petrol cars - can never remember :laugh:
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Thanks Rhyso :cool:
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Thanks Rhyso :cool:
No probs.
When does the issue occur? Part throttle? Full throttle??
To get accurate boost logs you need to floor it in 3rd / 4th gear from approx 2500rpm to the red line.
I'd suggest using a private runway of course :wink:
Also try Block 23 / 25 - that should give you engine load request :undecided: Not up to speed on the MK6's but certainly on the MK4 that's a useful block to measure :smiley:
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Happens on full and part throttle. Oddly its an intermiting thing, seem to think the car is overboosting then the ECU is holding it back.
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Just seems very odd that its happening to all cars with REVO plus according to SteveP they know about it. Had the car on VAG COM and everything seems fine. Maybe do some runs recording the boost :undecided:
Nope that is not what I said.
It's happening on my car running the development version of stage 2 and some stage 1 cars. All the stage 1 cars (expect one) have stage 2 type hardware. Which also concurs with what happen to mine. 100% fine in stock and stage one until I added the intake.
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Thanks Rhyso :cool:
No probs.
When does the issue occur? Part throttle? Full throttle??
To get accurate boost logs you need to floor it in 3rd / 4th gear from approx 2500rpm to the red line.
I'd suggest using a private runway of course :wink:
Also try Block 23 / 25 - that should give you engine load request :undecided: Not up to speed on the MK6's but certainly on the MK4 that's a useful block to measure :smiley:
The issue I am aware of effects the car between 1800 to 3000 rpm, where the car will hesitates or surges a few times between these two points in the rev range.
It's basically the ECU cutting the throttle when it detects any overboost, once it reaches just over 3000rpm it pulls cleanly and very well.
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Mine is when im am usually in 3rd foot to the metal and between 3-4k revs. the power delivery definately is not smooth :undecided:
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Are revo aware of this thread? And more importantly what are they going to do about it. I dont understand why is was fine for awhile and now its f**ked though :O
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Are revo aware of this thread? And more importantly what are they going to do about it. I dont understand why is was fine for awhile and now its f**ked though :O
I dont think Revo give a flying F*** TBH :grin:
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Am going to email them, point of this thread was to see who else is having these problems. Will email them tomorrow :wink:
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Am going to email them, point of this thread was to see who else is having these problems. Will email them tomorrow :wink:
If it was my car, I would take the map off and go for superchips. Try and get a refund from Revo? :cool:
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Am going to email them, point of this thread was to see who else is having these problems. Will email them tomorrow :wink:
Have already emailed them today and they have told me they are waiting for their own Mk6 GTI to turn up so they can do some work on improving the mapping for the cars with the stage 2 type hardware.
So I wouldn't expect any quick fixes within the next couple of weeks.
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It's so lovely to drive a car that accelerates soo smoothly in all gears! :tongue:
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Am going to email them, point of this thread was to see who else is having these problems. Will email them tomorrow :wink:
Have already emailed them today and they have told me they are waiting for their own Mk6 GTI to turn up so they can do some work on improving the mapping for the cars with the stage 2 type hardware.
So I wouldn't expect any quick fixes within the next couple of weeks.
Hi Steve,
What is the car doing and when?
Nick
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^^^ surging and hesitation between 1800 and just over 3000rpm.
Happens as soon as extra hardware is added normally.
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Mine has been fine for like 8months, I added an Intake and it was fine again for like 2weeks, Now mine does the same hesitates and doesnt want to hold boost, U can hear it though the induction chatter off between 1,800 and 3000rpm, Then full boost resumes and its fine. However i take the mod off and it still does it, Infact I had the car back to standard just the remap and it still does it. Tried lowering the map on the adjuster and its still doing it. Becoming a real pain now.
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^^^ after taking the intake off did you reset the adaptions via VCDS?
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^^^ after taking the intake off did you reset the adaptions via VCDS?
nope but why would it start effecting it after 2weeks?
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I had noticed an occasional 'holding back' briefly on my car particularly when accelerating from 2000ish rpm in the higher gears. I'd put this down to running the 98RON map and sometimes only being able to fill with 97RON super. I just sort of hoped it was just the ECU trying to decide what quality of fuel was actually coming through before allowing the car to run normally.
But just over a couple of weeks ago I had to drive to Gatwick Airport from Deepest Devon to fly out on holiday. 180 plus miles each way via the A30 A303, M3, M25 and M23. A very mixed bunch of roads, from single carriageway 40mph zones to variable M25 speed limits and everything in between. So basically the car was up and down the gearbox a fair bit and accellerating and decellerating quite often. No racing or silly speeds, 4 up in a fully laden car.
I noticed this surging quite a bit on and off, mostly coming out of roundabouts on the A303, accellerating onto dual carriageway sections to get past frigging caravans.
My car is just a Stage 1 REVO spec with no added air intakes, exhausts or anything else.
On the flip side, I put 70 quid of fuel in to travel up and managed to get back on the same tank a fortnight later, 360 odd miles fully loaded. My mk5 which was also remapped would never have done that without a top up on the way back. :smiley:
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This is exactly what I am experiencing! What I can't understand is how it never happened straight from when I had the map done, it more occured at a later date. Now R32Uk is saying his spark plugs where knackered, maybe its not the map after all? :undecided:
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This is exactly what I am experiencing! What I can't understand is how it never happened straight from when I had the map done, it more occured at a later date. Now R32Uk is saying his spark plugs where knackered, maybe its not the map after all? :undecided:
After the call through to Revo, they have no known issues with their software. The only way to check your car is not having issues with revo is to get it on the RR.
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It's so lovely to drive a car that accelerates soo smoothly in all gears! :tongue:
It is isn't it :grin:
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It's so lovely to drive a car that accelerates soo smoothly in all gears! :tongue:
...yet so sloooooowly. :evil:
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Revo are f**king liars. They have told me the exact opposite. They told me there are issues with the map......... They told me this months ago.. Do u know what im fixing this problem and sacking those jokers off. ill get a custom map somewhere. The guy im having look at my car seemed shocked with the timing of revo's stuff. he was shocked they were so dam high.
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The guy im having look at my car seemed shocked with the timing of revo's stuff. he was shocked they were so dam high.
As in ignition advance?
I know REVO do push the limits of both boost and advance compared to other tuners...hence the higher torque & power claims.
From experience though, this may be great on a 1/4 mile where you only need it for 13 seconds.
On a backroad or trackday, there can be heatsoak issues where power rapidly tails off, next to more conservative maps which do not generate as much heat.
Also, A to B on a twisty backroad in a car with a less aggressive torque delivery is often faster (especially FWD) as you aren't fighting the wheelspin/traction control....faster because you can concentrate more on driving the road, not fighting the car!
People need to do their research and select their remap accordingly - it's not all about peak numbers.
For those who it is all about peak numbers and 1/4 miles, REVO certainly seems the preferred option - but the very reason they please this type of driver is likely to be the downfall for a different type of driver.
Caveat emptor.
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yes... i would have to agree with that s3. even the gent doing the dyno runs said all revo maps seem to be brutal. However he did say that alot of problems with remapped cars is that the map is loaded on once and then left like that. In reality a car should be set up on its own individual parameters and driver preferences.... which is what mine will be once this issue is solved :evil:
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soooo glad I didnt get mine re-mapped.
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soooo glad I didnt get mine re-mapped.
As long as you stick to a modest map, not pushing the limits, then a re-map is no different to a OEM map - it's only 1s and 0s after all.
Start chasing every fraction of a BHP/lb-ft and things can go a bit Pete Tong.
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soooo glad I didnt get mine re-mapped.
I am running on std map at the moment and its a total bore! I reiterate that if the GTI could not be remapped I would give it back and go buy something a little more fun and powerful :sick:
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soooo glad I got mine re-mapped :smiley:
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I have my Bluefin handset transferred from my MK5 to the MK6 but haven't put it in the car yet.
I have only done 5000 miles so might wait until after my first service..
Tempted though :evil:
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I have my Bluefin handset transferred from my MK5 to the MK6 but haven't put it in the car yet.
I have only done 5000 miles so might wait until after my first service..
Tempted though :evil:
Just do it , let us know if can access the ECU??? :cool:
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ECU access no problem. :smiley:
I have already checked it once and then took it off again without driving it..
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ECU access no problem. :smiley:
I have already checked it once and then took it off again without driving it..
Not even a little test drive?
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ECU access no problem. :smiley:
I have already checked it once and then took it off again without driving it..
Its just that some mk6's cant access the ECU sealed unit?? :cool:
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soooo glad I didnt get mine re-mapped.
I am running on std map at the moment and its a total bore! I reiterate that if the GTI could not be remapped I would give it back and go buy something a little more fun and powerful :sick:
I'd like to reiterate that I agree with you Gilly. I'll get mine serviced in a few weeks to see if VW pick up on the plugs. If not I may see what Revo have to say and whether they recommend running on the 95 RON map instead which will be a lot tamer but maybe smoother (I've never switched between maps as I'm too thick to fathom out the switch!!!) or whether they're looking at rejigging their software. If it pisses me off too much I may swap over to a new Leon Cupra R and leave that totally standard (Golf R would be nice but I quite like the hardcore approach of the Cupra R and it's much cheaper, particularly if I can find an ex-demo in a few months time, a mate has one on order so I'll see what it's like first).
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ECU access no problem. :smiley:
I have already checked it once and then took it off again without driving it..
Not even a little test drive?
very tempted, but if I test drive it I will never take it off again :evil:
Just thought I would get to the first service to confirm the standard car is fault free..
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Very sensible. :nerd:
Not sure the first service will be a thorough check though, oil change and a few basic checks is all they do.
By the way, 'sensible' people don't remap their car......
Go on, you know you want to. :evil:
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soooo glad I didnt get mine re-mapped.
I can understand this comment ....but if you have no problems...you achieve quite the opposite. :evil: ..you suddenly have a GTI Porsche-like speed and sound ...which is unexplainable to any normal GTI driver unless you take a seat next to the driver in a remapper... :shocked:
I have driven the MK V for 4 years unmodified...now driving the MK VI ABT I think is money VERY well spend..I would do it on the next GTI and the next and the next.....addiction pur sang . :cool:
BTW
ABT claims also high figures like 260-270 BHP and 390 Torque..(so maybe the problem is not in the figures :huh:)
I do not care to verify that since it races fast enough for me.....and has mountains for breakfast even with my wife next to me and filled up with suitcases and 60 bottles of fine wine on the rear seats....it was out of the way you Germans all the way !!!!!!
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Its just that some mk6's cant access the ECU sealed unit?? :cool:
Superchips say they haven't encountered one of the new encrypted ECUs yet, there seems to be a lot in the US though.
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Can I just ask, Being as alot of money passes tho revo from customers off this site. Do u think they read these comments on forums? Or somebody posts a link. Be nice to see a guy from revo actually comment on all of this. May I also add, I left my number twice explaining my problem on their answerphone this last week because no1 answered the phones at revo. Guess how many times i got called back? :laugh:
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Can I just ask, Being as alot of money passes tho revo from customers off this site. Do u think they read these comments on forums? Or somebody posts a link. Be nice to see a guy from revo actually comment on all of this. May I also add, I left my number twice explaining my problem on their answerphone this last week because no1 answered the phones at revo. Guess how many times i got called back? :laugh:
Revo are active on a few forums, in fact they sponsor a few forums and have their own sections. I normally find them very easy to get hold of. In fact I would say they have been the easiest to deal with of all the tuners I've used over the years, and that's a lot of tuners. Not saying things can't change though.......
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I am thinking of changing map altogether now, getting fed up with my REVO map. Dont know who to go with though. AWESOME quoted £499 plus VAT to go straight to APR stage 2, shame I stay in Scotland. APR dealer in Scotland is quoting me £750+ :sick:
Going to shop around today.
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It's so lovely to drive a car that accelerates soo smoothly in all gears! :tongue:
...yet so sloooooowly. :evil:
Compared to a GT3 or something yes, but not really.
You knew the performance before you bought it, so why not buy a car that's faster in the first place if that's all you're bothered about?
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Compared to a GT3 or something yes, but not really.
You knew the performance before you bought it, so why not buy a car that's faster in the first place if that's all you're bothered about?
Yup...next to a GT3 it's slow, of course it is.
And next to the car it replaced - which was bought because it was fast.
But a fast car isn't always a usable or practical car...so you have to make a choice.
I also know how a simple re-map will makes things lively.
As standard the GTI is about spot on is such that it's not got enough power to really bother the chassis...whick makes it a tad boring.
With a remap it becomes more interesting....and a few chassis tweaks and it becomes far more interesting.
Each to their own...
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Car is going on the RR tomorrow at Star Performance and take it from there. maybe go with the GIAC software, who knows!? :wink:
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Car is going on the RR tomorrow at Star Performance and take it from there. maybe go with the GIAC software, who knows!? :wink:
I'll be keen to see what numbers you make there...I always use Star as my 'control' dyno as my last good few cars have made standard power there when standard, and reasonable - believable - power once tuned...unlike some of the hopelessly optimistic dynos that are out there, that seem to make things up.
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Never used Star Preformance before but always here good things about Jim, knows his stuff :smiley:
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Never used Star Preformance before but always here good things about Jim, knows his stuff :smiley:
I've uses them for around 13-14 years I think.
Decent people.
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Yup...next to a GT3 it's slow, of course it is.
1. And next to the car it replaced - which was bought because it was fast.
2. But a fast car isn't always a usable or practical car...so you have to make a choice.
Not quite understanding point 1, are you saying that the MK6 is slower than a MK5?
I agree with point 2, unless I was doing track days I can't see the point of having a remap, the car is plenty fast enough for everyday use.
There's also the warranty issue and resale value to consider. I wouldn't like to be in a position of having to spend on repairs which would normally be covered under the warranty; also an original "uncut" car will always hold it's value better.
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Not quite understanding point 1, are you saying that the MK6 is slower than a MK5?
No, not at all.
I was speaking about the car that my Mk6 replaced.
You made a comment about buying a faster car if that's what I wanted.
I had a fast car and sold it, knowingly buying a far slower car, which although slower, can be made more fun by a few choice tweaks, because sometimes 'fast' cars can be a pain to live with daily.
The GTI is great to live with, if a tad slow and boring.
But, a few choice changes and it becomes far more interesting.
I agree with point 2, unless I was doing track days I can't see the point of having a remap, the car is plenty fast enough for everyday use.
I'd dissagree.
It maybe depends on your car history...but a standard Mk6 is just about acceptable to me, performance wise.
But the potential is obvious, and easy to release.
Standard, it was lovely to drive, but boringly slow.
If you were doing trackdays, you'd find lower tracktimes from spending the money elsewhere - brakes, tyres and suspension for starters....so personally, I don't agree there.
There's also the warranty issue and resale value to consider. I wouldn't like to be in a position of having to spend on repairs which would normally be covered under the warranty; also an original "uncut" car will always hold it's value better.
You don't buy a new car if you care *that* much about resale value!
A well maintained, sensibly tuned car will always be worth at least the same as a standard car - but appeal to a different audience.
I have always had modified/tuned cars and had a queue of people looking to buy them...so I don't think it's too much of a concern.
At the end of the day...it's personal choice.
A standard GTI appeals to many, whereas a tuned
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Just nipping back on topic to discuss Revo.
Today my friend took his stage 2 Cupra k1 on the Rolling road. Was quoted 330bhp by Revo for his mods:
Stage 2 Revo,
BSH CAI
Upgraded Downpipe and Decat
Racing Catch Can
Uprated Injectors
Uprated DV
Only made 285 bhp at the engine today.
He was also telling me that when stage 1 his car made more torque than stock but less hp. So he is not best pleased with Revo.
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I remember a mates Mk4 Anniversary TDI with REVO St2, (plus exhaust, de-cat, inlet etc on top of the bigger turbo and I/C) make 1 BHP and 10 lb-ft more than my Fabia vRS which was standard bar a 2nd hand Tuning Box.
His was a 150 to start with...whereas the Fabia was a 130.
Odd..
He wasn't best pleased either.
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As I am sure many are aware, I am running the std map at the moment and the car is dull, boring, and has no grunt what so ever. Whats worse than out right speed is always having to drive in a lower gear than normal to have the power available! :undecided:
... and just a note to all those of you who are sensible.. my mpg has been reduced by quite a bit since going back to std :tongue: :laugh:
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^ But have you had the plugs changed yet.
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^ But have you had the plugs changed yet.
nope. tuesday :undecided:
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^ But have you had the plugs changed yet.
..... and the wheels? :wink:
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^ But have you had the plugs changed yet.
..... and the wheels? :wink:
probably wednesday... depending on how busy i am :wink:
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Just nipping back on topic to discuss Revo.
Today my friend took his stage 2 Cupra k1 on the Rolling road. Was quoted 330bhp by Revo for his mods:
Stage 2 Revo,
BSH CAI
Upgraded Downpipe and Decat
Racing Catch Can
Uprated Injectors
Uprated DV
Only made 285 bhp at the engine today.
He was also telling me that when stage 1 his car made more torque than stock but less hp. So he is not best pleased with Revo.
Was he talking to Jim at Star bout this? He was telling me about it yeasterday!
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Probably, South African accent. Got his fuel pump at Star performance on thursday I think. We then went back to the rolling road on thursday with his car loaded with V-Power and the uprated fuel pump and he only made 1 hp more.
Unfortunately he is not happy.
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he only made 1 hp more.
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(Cruel i know but it made me laff)
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he only made 1 hp more.
:grin:
(Crule i know but it made me laff)
:embarassed: There is a degree of comedy I do agree.
:grin:
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A comedy of errors! - Shakespeare :laugh:
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Just nipping back on topic to discuss Revo.
Today my friend took his stage 2 Cupra k1 on the Rolling road. Was quoted 330bhp by Revo for his mods:
Stage 2 Revo,
BSH CAI
Upgraded Downpipe and Decat
Racing Catch Can
Uprated Injectors
Uprated DV
Only made 285 bhp at the engine today.
He was also telling me that when stage 1 his car made more torque than stock but less hp. So he is not best pleased with Revo.
Must be something wrong with his car
ED30 (same engine and similar mods)
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w6/CUPRA270/SDC11267.jpg)
Also a K1 on the same mods is 15 overall in the top 20 2.0 tfsi leader board (1/4 mile)
15). 13.402 @ ???.??? - MAN - OEM K04 - REVO S2+ - ROAD TYRE - CUPRA K1
Also 90% of every other modified car in the top 20 is running revo
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There must be quite a few cars with the Superchips (Bluefin) re-map. They don't seem to have any issues or problems. :undecided: :rolleyes:
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One person with bluefin and he is the slowest on the board
22). 13.853 @ 104.97 - DSG - OEM K04 - BLUEF S2 - ROAD TYRE - MK5 ED30
Have any of you thought revo might just not have got to grips with your engines yet? This is the only forum that dislikes them. Every other forum with the 2.0tfsi engine knows theres only one remap to get - revo.
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One person with bluefin and he is the slowest on the board
22). 13.853 @ 104.97 - DSG - OEM K04 - BLUEF S2 - ROAD TYRE - MK5 ED30
Have any of you thought revo might just not have got to grips with your engines yet? This is the only forum that dislikes them. Every other forum with the 2.0tfsi engine knows theres only one remap to get - revo.
Then you would think they would stop selling the map? Except they keep selling it and this is the result. If you have a problem Revo dont want to know. I had issues with mine from Day 1. £600 wasted? U bet. Revo dont want to even talk to me about the problem they carnt even be bothered to call me back.
Anyway rant over. Currently my car is at Stattlers next to autorads in sheff. Being looked at by a proper mechanic. Im sure he'll get to the bottom of my problem.
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One person with bluefin and he is the slowest on the board
22). 13.853 @ 104.97 - DSG - OEM K04 - BLUEF S2 - ROAD TYRE - MK5 ED30
Have any of you thought revo might just not have got to grips with your engines yet? This is the only forum that dislikes them. Every other forum with the 2.0tfsi engine knows theres only one remap to get - revo.
REVO do a particuar style of map...which people who have 4WD cars (and can use the torque), people who chase every last BHP/lb-ft or people who like to 1/4 mile their cars, seem to like.
Nothing wrong with that...
But the delivery of many REVO cars makes backroads a chore in a FWD car, as you are fighting wheelspin, non-linear power delivery and you struggle to balance the car on the throttle (it's hard enough on a turbo car anyway!)
So maybe some people want a drivable car...and will trade a few BHP/lb-ft for an easier car to drive, and one that puts less stress on the engine and ancilliaries, and one that's likely to heatsoak less?
Each to their own...not every map suits every driver.
Big figures don't tall the whole story...and certainly don't always make the car faster point to point in the hands of every driver.
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One person with bluefin and he is the slowest on the board
22). 13.853 @ 104.97 - DSG - OEM K04 - BLUEF S2 - ROAD TYRE - MK5 ED30
Have any of you thought revo might just not have got to grips with your engines yet? This is the only forum that dislikes them. Every other forum with the 2.0tfsi engine knows theres only one remap to get - revo.
REVO do a particuar style of map...which people who have 4WD cars (and can use the torque), people who chase every last BHP/lb-ft or people who like to 1/4 mile their cars, seem to like.
Nothing wrong with that...
But the delivery of many REVO cars makes backroads a chore in a FWD car, as you are fighting wheelspin, non-linear power delivery and you struggle to balance the car on the throttle (it's hard enough on a turbo car anyway!)
So maybe some people want a drivable car...and will trade a few BHP/lb-ft for an easier car to drive, and one that puts less stress on the engine and ancilliaries, and one that's likely to heatsoak less?
Each to their own...not every map suits every driver.
Big figures don't tall the whole story...and certainly don't always make the car faster point to point in the hands of every driver.
I agree with Ess_Three entirely.
I've driven a Bluefinned Mk6 GTi. The whole experience was very tractable and the car was just that bit more flexible than the Standard car. It was also very close and sometimes just above the limits of adhesion.
I cannot imagine driving a car with wild wheelspin and snaking as one accelerates. What a hellish experience. I'd like to drive my car, not fight with it!
For the present and for my purposes, the Standard map is fine. :smiley:
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One person with bluefin and he is the slowest on the board
22). 13.853 @ 104.97 - DSG - OEM K04 - BLUEF S2 - ROAD TYRE - MK5 ED30
Have any of you thought revo might just not have got to grips with your engines yet? This is the only forum that dislikes them. Every other forum with the 2.0tfsi engine knows theres only one remap to get - revo.
Not that I discredit your information but I have ran a 13.7 and several 13.8 runs at Crail with standard road tires and a standard car bar a stage 1 map. (on a mk6 GTI) Does that mean a stage 1 is faster than a stage 2? I wouldn't say so. So although your example does appear to be the slowest of the bunch, I believe that in no way represents the software and hardware. It could purely be down to the driver. (Some might say DSG eliminates driver skill but it still takes some practice to get a clean launch).
I have no problem with Revo apart from the fact that every dyno I have seen of a Revo car is below Revo's quote for that model. (hence why my friend in the Cupra is unhappy).
But I do agree that something might be up with his car.
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So what do people recommend I do? Get another map? Apr are 750 ish for stage 2! Bluefin is about 550ish I think, not sure about custom code or giac prices! Or get on to revo about it and get nowhere and hope that they sort it out when they eventually release it!!! Checked my spark plugs today and all is fine there.
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Very happy with my Bluefin. Can't comment about stage 2 but the stage 1 remap using the handheld unit is great.
Smooth - the added power and torque is very noticable.
I revert it to stock now and again just to remind myself of the difference.
Link to my original post.
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=153656.msg1409840#msg1409840
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Another vote for Bluefin here, stage 2 and no issues.After sales has always been quick, and very helpful from Superchips.
There have been a few Revo stage 2+ K04 cars lately (1x Audi s3) and 2x Ed30's with blown turbo's.Destroyed one engine and so nearly if it wasnt spotted to another.
I will not put my car at stage 2+ or 3 for fear of it destroying itself.
Power and Torque isnt everything. Agree Bluefin isnt as aggressive as Revo, but im sure Being less aggressive,doesnt make it any slower on the open road.
Find anywhere of a Superchips car thats had a major failure as yet, let me know cus im still trying to find one that has.
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could this have anything to do with the boost issues or is it me been thick :embarassed:
Saw this on another site
(The APR guy told me there is also a Technical Service Bulletin for the Throttle wire that can Short under high torque acceleration...but the code cleared when I set the ECU back to Stock mode.)
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I know of someone who originally had revo but didn't enjoy the boost control issues so swap to APR.
He's confirmed from his own experience what Revo told me that the APR map is down tuned between 1-3k rpm to "overcome" the issue. So while it pull cleanly, it's isn't as strong between 1-3k and it's still noticeable that it's been "mapped" around.
I know Revo will get it sorted but it's massively frustrating that it isn't a quick fix :cry:
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Another vote for Bluefin here, stage 2 and no issues.After sales has always been quick, and very helpful from Superchips.
There have been a few Revo stage 2+ K04 cars lately (1x Audi s3) and 2x Ed30's with blown turbo's.Destroyed one engine and so nearly if it wasnt spotted to another.
I will not put my car at stage 2+ or 3 for fear of it destroying itself.
Power and Torque isnt everything. Agree Bluefin isnt as aggressive as Revo, but im sure Being less aggressive,doesnt make it any slower on the open road.
Find anywhere of a Superchips car thats had a major failure as yet, let me know cus im still trying to find one that has.
Hurdy is running 440bhp with no problems, jonnyc ran 400bhp in his S3 with no problems. I know of cars that had their turbo go pop with no mods.
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Another vote for Bluefin here, stage 2 and no issues.After sales has always been quick, and very helpful from Superchips.
There have been a few Revo stage 2+ K04 cars lately (1x Audi s3) and 2x Ed30's with blown turbo's.Destroyed one engine and so nearly if it wasnt spotted to another.
I will not put my car at stage 2+ or 3 for fear of it destroying itself.
Power and Torque isnt everything. Agree Bluefin isnt as aggressive as Revo, but im sure Being less aggressive,doesnt make it any slower on the open road.
Find anywhere of a Superchips car thats had a major failure as yet, let me know cus im still trying to find one that has.
Hurdy is running 440bhp with no problems, jonnyc ran 400bhp in his S3 with no problems. I know of cars that had their turbo go pop with no mods.
1+ more cars go pop stock vs remap ones.
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Sent REVO an email to see what they say. :rolleyes:
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Another vote for Bluefin here, stage 2 and no issues.After sales has always been quick, and very helpful from Superchips.
There have been a few Revo stage 2+ K04 cars lately (1x Audi s3) and 2x Ed30's with blown turbo's.Destroyed one engine and so nearly if it wasnt spotted to another.
I will not put my car at stage 2+ or 3 for fear of it destroying itself.
Power and Torque isnt everything. Agree Bluefin isnt as aggressive as Revo, but im sure Being less aggressive,doesnt make it any slower on the open road.
Find anywhere of a Superchips car thats had a major failure as yet, let me know cus im still trying to find one that has.
Hurdy is running 440bhp with no problems, jonnyc ran 400bhp in his S3 with no problems. I know of cars that had their turbo go pop with no mods.
Want to change your examples yet jules!.Hurdys has gone pop 3 days ago.
Jonnys went bang and was rebuilt as a result.
But these two cars are running very high boost over stage 2+
Metal fatigue due to higher stress maywell be the cause of alot of failures. Or high torque being a contributry factor?
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Saint Steve: Brilliant! :evil: :laugh:
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REVO's reply to me, seems they are aware about the boosting situation and are dealing with it.
Hi Kenny;
This is something we’re aware of, and we are looking into with our MK6… with the advanced boost control systems on these vehicles when running in a high state of tune with items such as an exhaust and intake they can suffer from hesitations and surging….like I say we are looking into this with our stage2 tuning on our own MK6 (which should turn up today!) so bear with us and as soon as we have a stage2 file for these cars we should have a fix for you!
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Apparently mine has been fixed, New turbo divertor valve and something else picking it up at 3pm, Will let u know what he says :P
Carn't wait cars been f**ked for months. Going to drive it like its stolen haha :laugh:
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How bad was yours mate, did it still feel like it had a remap on it? Mines is still quick when it boosts up!
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Low down it was sh!t, Like jumping like a rabbit and wouldn't hold boost, Then after like 3.5 / 4k rpm the turbo managed to hold boost again and off u went, As fast as b4, Don't get me wrong ude still leave most cars trailing even with the boost issue car was still quick. Just obviously something badly wrong.
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And to be honest your problems sound EXACTLY the same as mine. Ide take a stab in the dark and tell u to get the same parts changed. ill post the mechanic's comments down here when i meet him to fetch it later. I think he said the high torgue levels and seriously high timings from revo helped cause the parts to fail.
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Ooh, did you have to pay for the repair yourself jdjd? :shocked:
I may knock my settings down to the 95 RON map and see how that does (whilst still using 97/98 RON fuel)
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Slightly off topic: I get much better performance and fuel consumption when using Total Excellium than BP Utimate. Both 97 RON.
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I'm glad to hear you got a response from Revo Kenny. Sounds promising.
I'll let you know how I get on with mine when done. I've been having a little issue with my map but should soon be sorted. Yaay.
Going to drive it like its stolen haha :laugh:
+1 :laugh:
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I'm glad to hear you got a response from Revo Kenny. Sounds promising.
I'll let you know how I get on with mine when done. I've been having a little issue with my map but should soon be sorted. Yaay.
Going to drive it like its stolen haha :laugh:
+1 :laugh:
Will do mate, want it sorted out ASAP! Glad i never spent my money on a new map lastweek. that money is going towards my Golf R rear lights and mudflaps :smiley:
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Slightly off topic: I get much better performance and fuel consumption when using Total Excellium than BP Utimate. Both 97 RON.
Have you tried V power? :cool:
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Slightly off topic: I get much better performance and fuel consumption when using Total Excellium than BP Utimate. Both 97 RON.
Have you tried V power? :cool:
I have and noticed no improvement over 97 RON fuels. Also, there are no Shell Petrol Stations close to me which makes filling up at these very inconvenient. :smiley:
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Slightly off topic: I get much better performance and fuel consumption when using Total Excellium than BP Utimate. Both 97 RON.
Have you tried V power? :cool:
I have and noticed no improvement over 97 RON fuels. Also, there are no Shell Petrol Stations close to me which makes filling up at these very inconvenient. :smiley:
V-power is 98 ron , it was brilliant in the ED30 !! :wink:
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Slightly off topic: I get much better performance and fuel consumption when using Total Excellium than BP Utimate. Both 97 RON.
Have you tried V power? :cool:
I have and noticed no improvement over 97 RON fuels. Also, there are no Shell Petrol Stations close to me which makes filling up at these very inconvenient. :smiley:
V-power is 98 ron , it was brilliant in the ED30 !! :wink:
I can honestly say i can never feel the difference. Too small a margin to notice i think! Maybe on a RR you would see the difference but to notice yourself is very hard! Even after fitting my exhaust and intake i cant feel the difference even though it will produce higher bhp. After a remap, well thats a different kettle of fish! :laugh:
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So what's the latest here chaps? Have Revo released an under-developed product onto the market or what?
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Not sure why they would release the software if they knew about the issue? Or maybe they did not pick it up on the test car? Who knows, least they know about it and hopefully get it sorted ASAP!
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Well mine went into VW today. Just got a call from CS that they have found no faults with the car, but carried out a software update as there was one required. The car was back to stock, and I was unable to recreate the problem on a test run with the engineer... :undecided:
Conclusion... problem still unsolved and VW will not be doing anything else to rectify the problem as they cannot find a fault. :angry:
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Well mine went into VW today. Just got a call from CS that they have found no faults with the car, but carried out a software update as there was one required. The car was back to stock, and I was unable to recreate the problem on a test run with the engineer... :undecided:
Conclusion... problem still unsolved and VW will not be doing anything else to rectify the problem as they cannot find a fault. :angry:
Are you going to put your Revo map back on?
Tomorrow is wheel exchange day and I now know what you are putting on ... Audi RS4 wheels? :grin:
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Well mine went into VW today. Just got a call from CS that they have found no faults with the car, but carried out a software update as there was one required. The car was back to stock, and I was unable to recreate the problem on a test run with the engineer... :undecided:
Conclusion... problem still unsolved and VW will not be doing anything else to rectify the problem as they cannot find a fault. :angry:
Did they know had a map on it? :undecided:
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Well mine went into VW today. Just got a call from CS that they have found no faults with the car, but carried out a software update as there was one required. The car was back to stock, and I was unable to recreate the problem on a test run with the engineer... :undecided:
Conclusion... problem still unsolved and VW will not be doing anything else to rectify the problem as they cannot find a fault. :angry:
Are you going to put your Revo map back on?
Tomorrow is wheel exchange day and I now know what you are putting on ... Audi RS4 wheels? :grin:
The map will be going back on at some point.. but i will be putting it back on the RR before I do. If it doesnt make 210bhp then I guess that gives me grounds to lodge a complaint with VW. I did tell them about the plugs but didnt want to say I have had them out. no doubt they didnt even check them!! :angry:
Get the car back tomorrow at some point so the wheels will not be going on this week.
.... and they are not RS4 alloys :tongue: :grin:
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Well mine went into VW today. Just got a call from CS that they have found no faults with the car, but carried out a software update as there was one required. The car was back to stock, and I was unable to recreate the problem on a test run with the engineer... :undecided:
Conclusion... problem still unsolved and VW will not be doing anything else to rectify the problem as they cannot find a fault. :angry:
Did they know had a map on it? :undecided:
Not a clue and didnt even ask. Although with the software update done I am hoping it solves the problem :undecided:
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Well mine went into VW today. Just got a call from CS that they have found no faults with the car, but carried out a software update as there was one required. The car was back to stock, and I was unable to recreate the problem on a test run with the engineer... :undecided:
Conclusion... problem still unsolved and VW will not be doing anything else to rectify the problem as they cannot find a fault. :angry:
Are you going to put your Revo map back on?
Tomorrow is wheel exchange day and I now know what you are putting on ... Audi RS4 wheels? :grin:
The map will be going back on at some point.. but i will be putting it back on the RR before I do. If it doesnt make 210bhp then I guess that gives me grounds to lodge a complaint with VW. I did tell them about the plugs but didnt want to say I have had them out. no doubt they didnt even check them!! :angry:
Get the car back tomorrow at some point so the wheels will not be going on this week.
.... and they are not RS4 alloys :tongue: :grin:
Damn you Gilly. :grin: Split rims? :rolleyes:
Hope all is resolved with the car. You're right to check on the RR first. Hope it will be fine.
Sometimes I wonder why we bother to excess with our cars. Are we lacking something essential in our lives? Don't think so. It's all good, clean but expensive fun. Fabulous! Bang goes the facelift and the rest! :cry:
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Hopefully the software update didn't include the new encryption update as was rumoured.
In which case you will have to take the ECU out to remap it. :shocked:
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Hopefully the software update didn't include the new encryption update as was rumoured.
In which case you will have to take the ECU out to remap it. :shocked:
O what a wicked thought! :shocked:
I know, you're covering all bases. :lipsrsealed:
Now this would be terrible. I really hope not. The poor guy has had enough problems recently and I really feel for him.
I doubt whether VW would have installed the new encryption update.
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Hopefully the software update didn't include the new encryption update as was rumoured.
In which case you will have to take the ECU out to remap it. :shocked:
O what a wicked thought! :shocked:
I know, you're covering all bases. :lipsrsealed:
Now this would be terrible. I really hope not. The poor guy has had enough problems recently and I really feel for him.
I doubt whether VW would have installed the new encryption update.
Imagine that then I would have Gilly stock map :laugh:
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Hopefully the software update didn't include the new encryption update as was rumoured.
In which case you will have to take the ECU out to remap it. :shocked:
O what a wicked thought! :shocked:
I know, you're covering all bases. :lipsrsealed:
Now this would be terrible. I really hope not. The poor guy has had enough problems recently and I really feel for him.
I doubt whether VW would have installed the new encryption update.
Imagine that then I would have Gilly stock map :laugh:
:grin:
I would then have to strip the seats, stereo, interior, change the glass to plastic, buy some light weight wheels, racing slicks, reduce the size of the petrol tank.... the balance is now restored :tongue: :laugh:
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Hopefully the software update didn't include the new encryption update as was rumoured.
In which case you will have to take the ECU out to remap it. :shocked:
O what a wicked thought! :shocked:
I know, you're covering all bases. :lipsrsealed:
Now this would be terrible. I really hope not. The poor guy has had enough problems recently and I really feel for him.
I doubt whether VW would have installed the new encryption update.
Imagine that then I would have Gilly stock map :laugh:
:grin:
I would then have to strip the seats, stereo, interior, change the glass to plastic, buy some light weight wheels, racing slicks, reduce the size of the petrol tank.... the balance is now restored :tongue: :laugh:
Never a truer word was said in jest! :grin:
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Hopefully the software update didn't include the new encryption update as was rumoured.
In which case you will have to take the ECU out to remap it. :shocked:
I hadnt thought of that.... and I will continue to not do so in hope they havent :huh:
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Hopefully the software update didn't include the new encryption update as was rumoured.
In which case you will have to take the ECU out to remap it. :shocked:
I hadnt thought of that.... and I will continue to not do so in hope they havent :huh:
Go and check it out now FFS! :wink:
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Hopefully the software update didn't include the new encryption update as was rumoured.
In which case you will have to take the ECU out to remap it. :shocked:
I hadnt thought of that.... and I will continue to not do so in hope they havent :huh:
Go and check it out now FFS! :wink:
I have not collected it yet... im rolling in a new 2010 polo :grin: Actually quite nice, and relatively well spec'd.... but its only a 1.2 so I have had a few snails flashing their lights in my rear view looking slightly annoyed :embarassed:
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Hopefully the software update didn't include the new encryption update as was rumoured.
In which case you will have to take the ECU out to remap it. :shocked:
I hadnt thought of that.... and I will continue to not do so in hope they havent :huh:
Go and check it out now FFS! :wink:
I have not collected it yet... im rolling in a new 2010 polo :grin: Actually quite nice, and relatively well spec'd.... but its only a 1.2 so I have had a few snails flashing their lights in my rear view looking slightly annoyed :embarassed:
I can't bear it anymore.
Now look .... tell me what wheels you are fitting and I promise all will be well with your ECU. :tongue: :evil: :laugh:
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dont asker no questions and you shall be told no lies! :tongue: :grin:
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dont asker no questions and you shall be told no lies! :tongue: :grin:
:sick: Were do i send the bill for a new monitor :grin:
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Today:
2 hours at the dentist.
I hour with the surgeon and a steriod injection into my very painful arm joint.
Bumpers buggered.
Have pity on me you two ..... :cry:
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I have not collected it yet... im rolling in a new 2010 polo :grin: Actually quite nice, and relatively well spec'd.... but its only a 1.2 so I have had a few snails flashing their lights in my rear view looking slightly annoyed :embarassed:
I feel your pain. I'm in a 59 plate Polo 1.2 for just now. Dom is getting serviced. My word I truly miss the GTI. :grin:
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Yes I paid out my own money, Couldn't be bothered pressing vw, I want my warrenty for when my turbo explodes or something. Not have them looking about at something that only going to be a dodgy sensor.
cost me £150 from Autorads in Sheffield. Ask for Steve Junior. Turbo divertor valve, Im sure yours will be exactly the same thing. Its weak under high boost pressure. the map amplifies the problem.
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Yes I paid out my own money, Couldn't be bothered pressing vw, I want my warrenty for when my turbo explodes or something. Not have them looking about at something that only going to be a dodgy sensor.
cost me £150 from Autorads in Sheffield. Ask for Steve Junior. Turbo divertor valve, Im sure yours will be exactly the same thing. Its weak under high boost pressure. the map amplifies the problem.
Wasnt there a similar problem on the MK5 GTI?? you would have thought VW would have sorted it by now... or is it just a fail safe to stop any other components going bang :rolleyes: :huh:
I think i am just going to put the map back on, test, and if its still the same then get the plugs changed. If the problem still persists, then its back to std and back to VW (with RR graphs) :angry:
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Yes I paid out my own money, Couldn't be bothered pressing vw, I want my warrenty for when my turbo explodes or something. Not have them looking about at something that only going to be a dodgy sensor.
cost me £150 from Autorads in Sheffield. Ask for Steve Junior. Turbo divertor valve, Im sure yours will be exactly the same thing. Its weak under high boost pressure. the map amplifies the problem.
Is that all yours was? The dump valve?
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I think we need to face facts. When the car goes back to VW, all they do is plug it into a computer. If it throws out errors, they look up the error code and then follow step-by-step instructions. So simple a 10yr old could do it!!
Gone are the days when a traditional mechanic could start your car and know whats wrong with it by listening or at most taking it for a drive.
NO ERRORS = NO PROBLEMS its a simple get out by VW :angry:
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OK got the car back from dealer with some good and bad news!
Good news is the car is still in one piece :grin:. Bad news is they could not find any faults. So they gave me some free oil, a software update and sent me on my way :angry:
So half a mile down the road I pull over to put the Revo back on.... errmmmm. How can I put this???? It doesnt accept the flash anymore. :cry:
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Oh dear, so what next Gilly? :huh:
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OK got the car back from dealer with some good and bad news!
Good news is the car is still in one piece :grin:. Bad news is they could not find any faults. So they gave me some free oil, a software update and sent me on my way :angry:
So half a mile down the road I pull over to put the Revo back on.... errmmmm. How can I put this???? It doesnt accept the flash anymore. :cry:
You will need to get back to your Revo dealer for the car to be reflashed.
Remember the Select Plus doesn't flash the ECU like the bluefin, it just works with the Revo code in the ECU to update/change the settings.
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Went down to RSTuning in Leeds, and after my visit last week they are now a Revo dealer :evil:. Got Paul to give Revo a call and they will be able to reflash the ECU once their Revo Dealer kit arrives sometime this week.
After speaking to Revo they can confirm that the latest software update does not have the encryption on there :smiley:
So... just waiting for them to get the kit then Im having my plugs done and should have some nice before and after graphs also. Ohhh HAPPY DAYS again!!! :evil:
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Went down to RSTuning in Leeds, and after my visit last week they are now a Revo dealer :evil:. Got Paul to give Revo a call and they will be able to reflash the ECU once their Revo Dealer kit arrives sometime this week.
After speaking to Revo they can confirm that the latest software update does not have the encryption on there :smiley:
So... just waiting for them to get the kit then Im having my plugs done and should have some nice before and after graphs also. Ohhh HAPPY DAYS again!!! :evil:
Glad to hear it. Still waiting to get mine back.
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Went down to RSTuning in Leeds, and after my visit last week they are now a Revo dealer :evil:. Got Paul to give Revo a call and they will be able to reflash the ECU once their Revo Dealer kit arrives sometime this week.
After speaking to Revo they can confirm that the latest software update does not have the encryption on there :smiley:
So... just waiting for them to get the kit then Im having my plugs done and should have some nice before and after graphs also. Ohhh HAPPY DAYS again!!! :evil:
Glad to hear it. Still waiting to get mine back.
Pray, what has happened to yours?
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R32 - Hope you get back to 'normal' soon.
I put mine back to stock now and again and am constantly amazed by the difference when I reinstall my bluefin.
Please post your before and after RR figures if you can.
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After speaking to Revo they can confirm that the latest software update does not have the encryption on there :smiley:
Great news R32UK, hopefully you will get your car sorted soon.. :evil:
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Went down to RSTuning in Leeds, and after my visit last week they are now a Revo dealer :evil:. Got Paul to give Revo a call and they will be able to reflash the ECU once their Revo Dealer kit arrives sometime this week.
After speaking to Revo they can confirm that the latest software update does not have the encryption on there :smiley:
So... just waiting for them to get the kit then Im having my plugs done and should have some nice before and after graphs also. Ohhh HAPPY DAYS again!!! :evil:
Hope all goes well and HAPPY DAYS will be back with a vengence.
VW are reasonably clueless. Sometimes this is a good thing! I bet they did not even have the slightest inkling that you had a re-map. Could they not tell the plugs needed changing?
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Just to say I am back running perfectly. WOW. Forgot how good this car can be. :laugh: :evil:
Not entirely sure what it was.
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Has Revo sorted out the Stage 1 issue?
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I took mine to get the map put back on Tuesday. Unfotunately Revo have not seen the latest firmware found on my car before (yep.. just my luck) so as far as i know they are now working on another map. Im going on holiday soon, so doubt I will be getting any kind of map in the next 2 weeks!! :angry: :angry:
Been a good few months i have had to go without now :cry:
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I took mine to get the map put back on Tuesday. Unfotunately Revo have not seen the latest firmware found on my car before (yep.. just my luck) so as far as i know they are now working on another map. Im going on holiday soon, so doubt I will be getting any kind of map in the next 2 weeks!! :angry: :angry:
Been a good few months i have had to go without now :cry:
Gutted for you mate!
I am assuming its the software VW put on when they had your car in???
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I took mine to get the map put back on Tuesday. Unfotunately Revo have not seen the latest firmware found on my car before (yep.. just my luck) so as far as i know they are now working on another map. Im going on holiday soon, so doubt I will be getting any kind of map in the next 2 weeks!! :angry: :angry:
Been a good few months i have had to go without now :cry:
Gutted for you mate!
I am assuming its the software VW put on when they had your car in???
Yeah. Revo claim to never have seen that software update before. Seems a little strange as its been on there 2+months.
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Look on the plus side, you've got a holiday to look forward to ya jammy sod!
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Look on the plus side, you've got a holiday to look forward to ya jammy sod!
tis true!!.... ibiza will never be the same :evil:
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I took mine to get the map put back on Tuesday. Unfotunately Revo have not seen the latest firmware found on my car before (yep.. just my luck) so as far as i know they are now working on another map. Im going on holiday soon, so doubt I will be getting any kind of map in the next 2 weeks!! :angry: :angry:
Been a good few months i have had to go without now :cry:
Gutted for you mate!
I am assuming its the software VW put on when they had your car in???
Yeah. Revo claim to never have seen that software update before. Seems a little strange as its been on there 2+months.
I spoke to them today and they have already pulled the new VW software update to bits to understand the changes. The major things in this update are on the emissions control for euro 5 (and lambda probe in particular) there is also some changes to boost control too but these are minor.
They have been trying to complete the setup of the flashing tool for their dealers for the 2010 security enabled cars which has taken over all available resource, but this is just about done now so are getting back to completing the various updates and changes required around the Mk6 2.0 TSI tuning.
So a new stage 1 file with the improved boost control and incorporating this latest firmware will be released soon (the impression I got was it would be a few weeks away rather than months).
The formal release of stage 2 also isn't far either and then some KO4 stage 3 software will be worked on too :evil:
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Am so jealous!!! Where abouts are you staying? Hope you'll be popping into kilties ( best bar on San Antonio!) not that am biased or anything!
Can't wait to get the stage 2 software, it's been along time coming! What kind of bhp are they looking at Steve?
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Bumping this up to see if anyone has an update from Revo...I want to get my car sorted, been driving in stock mode for the last couple of months
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It's almost sorted on their stage 2 file from what I understand (running at 99% Ok rather than 75%), they are also working on the version that including the latest dealer applied update for the ECU.
As soon as I hear any more I will let you know.
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It's almost sorted on their stage 2 file from what I understand (running at 99% Ok rather than 75%), they are also working on the version that including the latest dealer applied update for the ECU.
As soon as I hear any more I will let you know.
Thats sound about the same as what i heard today steve. Phoned my guy today as tbh I am getting fed up of waiting for the latest remap.. I keep getting told its nearly ready. I decided I am not going to wait... feels like months since I had a map on mine. So next week I am getting the old map put back on until the new one is ready in a few weeks.
Having this conversation with my guy, he did say that the problems that people get with revo are not down to the map itself but the dealers that install the maps. They never set them up properly.. so 90% of the time its not the map but the dealers. TBH Revo will let almost anyone be a dealer :lipsrsealed: :smiley:
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What the hell do they mean by that? Its a generic map, all the dealer does is flash you ECU with the map REVO made up :huh:
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^^^ Exactly, that makes no sense, the only thing I can think of is with the likes of the Mk5 Revo map with the Boost, Fueling and Timing being configurable via the SPS.
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My car is due a service, Do u mean to tell me if I take it back my map will be flashed?
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Best to ask the dealer if there are any ECU updates planned for your car during the service, on my last there wasn't (about 1 1/2 months ago) but this could have changed.
Not all updates get applied as a matter of course, they may only update it if your reporting an issue.
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^^^ Exactly, that makes no sense, the only thing I can think of is with the likes of the Mk5 Revo map with the Boost, Fueling and Timing being configurable via the SPS.
I am guessing thats what they mean also. I think the point he was making is that you dont know anything about the car you are mapping until you have had it on a RR. Both before and after the remap to highlight any issues and adjust the variables.
Despite being Revo dealers the do offer their own custom remaps and say without doubt going to professional outfit with RR and proven track record of modifying cars is by far the best way to get what you ideally want/the best from a remap... I cant help but agree with them on that front. As everyone wants different things from their car, and every car is different in its own right :undecided:
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Gilly, are you going to get boosted before or after your holiday? :grin:
This is turning out a bit like my bumper thread. :evil: :laugh:
You are lucky, you did not start it. Otherwise, I would have had to have stern words with you. :tongue:
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Gilly, are you going to get boosted before or after your holiday? :grin:
This is turning out a bit like my bumper thread. :evil: :laugh:
You are lucky, you did not start it. Otherwise, I would have had to have stern words with you. :tongue:
have already been on holiday :wink: :cool:
Got back Saturday... although I feel like i am just getting back to normality today
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Hope you had a good one.
Now you can get boosted, I hope. It seems to go on and on. Has put me off REVO big time.
I think, when I re-map in March 2011, I'll go for Bluefin, unless convinced otherwise. Just want a little boost and nothing too radical.
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Hope you had a good one.
Now you can get boosted, I hope. It seems to go on and on. Has put me off REVO big time.
I think, when I re-map in March 2011, I'll go for Bluefin, unless convinced otherwise. Just want a little boost and nothing too radical.
well im now booked in for Tuesday!! I cannot wait... you need to find someone local to give it a try first.
I was told that the Revo maps are very good once set up :wink:
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I've not had the chance to compare Bluefin Vs revo.
But...
I can take my bluefin off whenever I want and restore to the original map.
It has more than enough poke for the front wheels.
It costs around £450.
You can send it back if you can't handle it.
Why the big deal about revo if they are giving so many problems?? How is the map supposedly better?
You may have already guessed - I love my Bluefin.
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GolfTi: Bluefin for me next year with new insurance. Roll on the 22nd March 2011.
I am now convinced.
BTW: I'll nickname you Blue Velvet.
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Why next year??
I changed my insurance when I got the bluefin - it was actually cheaper than I was already paying.
I think you're scared. :wink:
You've driven a bluefinned GTI so you know the difference. Why the hesitation?
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Why next year??
I changed my insurance when I got the bluefin - it was actually cheaper than I was already paying.
I think you're scared. :wink:
You've driven a bluefinned GTI so you know the difference. Why the hesitation?
Not scared, but want to have something to fiddle with next year. :grin:
It has taken so much energy to get the bloody rear bumper fixed, I feel a bit exhausted.
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Unfortunatly in Dubai we are not spoilt for choice on tuning options, this is why I went for Revo. The local dealer seems pretty good for Dubai standards. Finding good service here is like trying to find rocking horse sh!t - it does not exist! As soon as I know Revo has resolved there Stage 1 issues, I will inform the local dealer and make sure he has the new map for my car and get it "remapped".
I intalled a boost guage, and in stock mode I am getting around 12-13psi boost, with the current Revo S1 I am getting 22-24psi...no wonder the tune has issues.
Anyway, SteveP I would appreciate the updates when you get them from Revo
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GolfTi, what was your car's BW?
Mine was BW8/9. My ECU might be locked. Only way to find out, I suppose, is to order one and try. If it does not work, then I won't bother as the Bluefin is probably the only re-map which allows the ECU to be returned to stock very easily.
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Just before i get the car on the dyno tomorrow and get the map put back on.... :evil:
(http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5565/img00142201008031804.jpg)
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Gilly, can you clarify the readings to satisfy my ignorance, please.
Your BHP is 196.1? The graphs show different readings.
And the torque?
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iirc as i dont have the print out any more, just that picture.
The first run - 172bhp 200lbs torque
The second run - 196bhp 260lbs torque
As you can see the huge dip over 4500 revs where there seems to be a misfire.. so there was no point in doing any more runs. This was with the map removed.
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As you can see the huge dip over 4500 revs where there seems to be a misfire.. so there was no point in doing any more runs. This was with the map removed.
Out of interest, what map is used after Revo remove theirs?
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As you can see the huge dip over 4500 revs where there seems to be a misfire.. so there was no point in doing any more runs. This was with the map removed.
Out of interest, what map is used after Revo remove theirs?
stock from what i believe. revo upload the original map and have it on their system. so i was told that this was put back on. With the revo on it was barely making those figures shown... so not much difference was found between stock and remap.
fingers crossed it should all be solved tomorrow!! :evil:
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265.4 bhp 315lbs torque@3500 :evil: :evil: :evil:
not running quite as well as it should (very rich I have been told). but it will do for now as its only on for a few weeks until the new Revo map is out :nerd:
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Gilly, Congratulations.
Please don't crash it.
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Gilly, Congratulations.
Please don't crash it.
I used to think a remapped golf was fast until i was taken out in my mates remapped M5 last night!! 500+bhp
there are no words to describe how naughty that car is... he has invited me out to see if we can break the 200kph barrier :evil: :evil:
(on a track of course :wink:)
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Gilly, Congratulations.
Please don't crash it.
I used to think a remapped golf was fast until i was taken out in my mates remapped M5 last night!! 500+bhp
there are no words to describe how naughty that car is... he has invited me out to see if we can break the 200kph barrier :evil: :evil:
(on a track of course :wink:)
Yeah, what a car, what an engine. :smiley:
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But its still a BMW :evil: I would rather have haemorrhoids. :evil:
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But its still a BMW :evil: I would rather have haemorrhoids. :evil:
LMAO.
That's one of the perks with the M5. :evil:
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But its still a BMW :evil: I would rather have haemorrhoids. :evil:
seems to be quite a few BMW haters on here. IMO they are miles ahead of audi/mercs in terms of engine development and chassis design
i dont think i would warrant a m5 as i only do short journeys most of the time... and M3 however.... hmmmm :evil:
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I thought you were a 4WD man rather than RWD.
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I thought you were a 4WD man rather than RWD.
Gilly is very versatile. :evil:
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I thought you were a 4WD man rather than RWD.
4WD for practicality RWD for fun :cool:
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i'd have a beemer anyday, used to have a 3 series, great cars.
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i'd have a beemer anyday, used to have a 3 series, great cars.
+1
my first car was a 2002 tii...
I couldnt actually drive when i owned it :evil:
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So REVO boost issues will be solved by buying a BMW.
Problem solved!
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Just seems very odd that its happening to all cars with REVO plus according to SteveP they know about it. Had the car on VAG COM and everything seems fine. Maybe do some runs recording the boost :undecided:
Nope that is not what I said.
It's happening on my car running the development version of stage 2 and some stage 1 cars. All the stage 1 cars (expect one) have stage 2 type hardware. Which also concurs with what happen to mine. 100% fine in stock and stage one until I added the intake.
It's interesting you say that Steve, as my remapped GTI was going great with just a remap, added a milltek downpipe and it was still all good but then after getting the ITG Intake fitted and having the car mapped for the intake and downpipe it's suffering severely from this boost issue (hesitation), very disappointed with the way it's driving now tbh :undecided:
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Still have to report my car has never missed a beat but the first service was done by my Revo/VW indy rather than the poor local dealer.
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Still have to report my car has never missed a beat but the first service was done by my Revo/VW indy rather than the poor local dealer.
that sounds like a wise move gossa. mine never had any problems until it went into a dealer... says it all really :undecided:
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I see Awesome have stopped selling APR and are now Revo dealers.
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I see Awesome have stopped selling APR and are now Revo dealers.
yeah spoke to Andy at awesome gti today and think they (APR) and awesome where having issues so awesome have went to REVO :-) that must of been a massive turn up for REVO!
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Does anyone have the contact details for Revo in the Uk? I have looked on the web, but takes me to the US site.
I am based in Dubai and I believe from my installer that the tune was send from Revo in the UK. I really need to get this boost issue on my stage 1 resolved!
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Here you go.
Revo Technik Limited
37 Lanchester Way
Royal Oak Industrial Estate
Daventry
Northamptonshire
NN11 8PH
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0)1327 301901
Fax: +44 (0)1327 308180
Sales: sales@revotechnik.com
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Just posted here..http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=164177.10
Would recommend AMD for any remap work
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Any of you out there with Revo, I have a brand new in the box, never used SPS (Select Plus Switch) Switch for sale. £100 posted.
have also listed in classifieds
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Stage 2 is ready guys, just not been formally released :cool: Spoke to Carl today and he was going to send the file to my REVO dealer and get it on the car but the dealer is too busy!!! :cry:
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Kenny, I simply cannot understand why you want such a fast car in Scotland where all the roads are frozen for most of the year. :evil: :laugh:
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Better than being stuck in traffic and having to pay to do it! Lol :grin:
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Better than being stuck in traffic and having to pay to do it! Lol :grin:
Cracking retort Kenny. :grin:
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Better than being stuck in traffic and having to pay to do it! Lol :grin:
Cracking retort Kenny. :grin:
Bloody highland hicks. :tongue:
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Bloody highlanders. :tongue:
Since when has Ayrshire or Aberdeenshire been in the highlands?
See you bloody southerners...the world does not stop at Watford. You should look at a map sometimes.
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I should have said hicks. :grin: :tongue:
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I should have said hicks. :grin: :tongue:
you should have said nothing and taken it on the chin/rear bumper :tongue:
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I should have said hicks. :grin: :tongue:
you should have said nothing and taken it on the chin/rear bumper :tongue:
Good advice...
How's it fel to be corrected on your geography by hicks, Asker?
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I should have said hicks. :grin: :tongue:
you should have said nothing and taken it on the chin/rear bumper :tongue:
Good advice...
How's it fel to be corrected on your geography by hicks, Asker?
Most refreshing. :kiss:
Now I hope you know I was only kidding. :kiss: :kiss:++++++ :cool:
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As an extra special treat for you Glen, I'm going to unlock my 'Evo Mag Summer Tyre Test' thread for about an hour and a year! :wink:
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I also apologise but please don't call me a bloody Southerner. Too tame for me. Spice it up! :grin:
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To bring the it back to the subject - anybody know if Stage 1 update is out yet?
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Any news on the updated Stage 1?
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I don't believe they have updated it as yet, as stage 1 works fine if it's used on a standard car (hardware mods wise).
The stage 2 file, which a couple of us have now has been updated and works great :smiley:
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Strange that you say it is working on a "standard car". I have stock intake and DP with Stage 1, and I am having serious surging issues with the tune.
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after Stage 1....now looking at stage 2 with this bad boy.. :evil:
http://www.amdessex.com/news.read.cfm?articleid=84
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Isnt that SteveP's motor????????
Saw his car more recently in the VW mag that gets sent to dealers...............
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Isnt that SteveP's motor????????
Saw his car more recently in the VW mag that gets sent to dealers...............
oh...Have I breached some Trademark laws here :shocked:
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Isnt that SteveP's motor????????
Saw his car more recently in the VW mag that gets sent to dealers...............
Yes and Yes.
In this months VW Driver I am mostly looking gormless going around castle coombe :laugh: :laugh:
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Isnt that SteveP's motor????????
Saw his car more recently in the VW mag that gets sent to dealers...............
oh...Have I breached some Trademark laws here :shocked:
Not that I am aware of, my cars plastered all of the place. I am a serial modder and have lent it to a couple of companies in the past.
It's also been seen in Redline mag, VW Driver Mag (three times now) and is also shown on VW Racings website as well as various Milltek related ones as well :smiley:
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Isnt that SteveP's motor????????
Saw his car more recently in the VW mag that gets sent to dealers...............
oh...Have I breached some Trademark laws here :shocked:
Not that I am aware of, my cars plastered all of the place. I am a serial modder and have lent it to a couple of companies in the past.
It's also been seen in Redline mag, VW Driver Mag (three times now) and is also shown on VW Racings website as well as various Milltek related ones as well :smiley:
So a Mk6 pimp? :smug:
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Steve's car is a bit of a t@rt. Soon be featured in OK magazine. :grin:
No boost issues there. :evil:
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Revo has released there updated Stage 1 flash. Had it installed yesterday :smiley:
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Revo has released there updated Stage 1 flash. Had it installed yesterday :smiley:
great stuff!!
whats it like? been on the rollers??
just in time for the snow :undecided:
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Get the pipes on the Saxo (see link) for stage 2 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
http://www.viper-exhausts.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=80&Itemid=113