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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: barnysGTI on 12 July 2010, 17:31
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ok you may no that i've just got a mk2 with a 2.0 16vabf lump in it and now i've found out that it is ceased
wot i need to no is that can i use a mk2 1.8 16v lump on the abf managment.......?????????? all i'll b wanting to use is the head and block and bolt up eveything else that is in my engine bay...... use the mk3 box and wide track thats there n exhaust etc
wot issues is there or can i bolt it in and it will be ok??????
just that i can get my hands on the engine
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Diamond Hell is away.
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sorry for the short hand and spellin mistake no one is perfect!!!!!!!!!
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Thinking aloud here, because I'm not that familiar with KRs, but AFAIK...
-No crank position sensor
-No knock sensors
-Different injectors (seats can probably be swapped about tho)
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it can all be bolted up in theory, use polo cranck sensor that goes behind flywheel, find hles for knock sensors and use abf inlet, easy
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it can all be bolted up in theory, use polo cranck sensor that goes behind flywheel, find hles for knock sensors and use abf inlet, easy
yeh but danny_p you make everything sound easy! :grin:
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lol so it can b done then?????
so cant i use the crank sensor off the abf engine then????
is that all there is to it.
just that i was thinking that there the same and only different was one is a 1.8 and the other is a 2.0 ok i cant use the 2.0 head as the cams would be different.
take it i would need to use the 1.8 injectors to???????
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No, you bolt on the ABF inlet and injector rail.
Because of the way the ABF management works it'll probably cope with a loss of 200cc, although it seems foolish to waste good management on a 1.8 motor....
Diamond Hell is away.
Thanks for sharing the load.
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Are you getting the 1.8 free?
Otherwise why go for the retrogarde step of getting a 1.8 to run ABF management? Just buy an ABF, you might even get a free SEAT bolted to it.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1996-SEAT-TOLEDO-2-0-16V-GREY-/320558094313?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4aa2c057e9
Make an offer to seller
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/vw-passat-2-0-16v-ABF-breaking-rear-wiper-arm-/400135262994?cmd=ViewItem&hash=item5d29eb9312
All under a grand
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/search/used/cars/seat/ibiza/postcode/dd46tb/radius/1500/engine-size-cars/2l_to_2-5l/fuel-type/petrol/sort/priceasc/price-to/1000
Personally I think this is a bit steep, but if you only want the head and block
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-VOLKSWAGEN-GOLF-MK3-VENTO-16V-2-0-2L-GTI-ABF-ENGINE-/280264701932?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item414113f7ec
All in 5mins :wink:
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it can all be bolted up in theory, use polo cranck sensor that goes behind flywheel, find hles for knock sensors and use abf inlet, easy
yeh but danny_p you make everything sound easy! :grin:
ask me about renults or writeen english then.
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ask me about renults or writeen english then.
:grin:
M'mmmmmm, Toledo. Full of ABF goodness.
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i can get the 1.8 for a £100 needs head gasket tho.... ive been lookin around for a ABF and had no luck!!!!!!!! missed out on one for £300 tho...
i didn't realise there was so many cars use the ABF lump.......trust me i want to keep it abf if i can i was just woundering if it was possible to use the 1.8 as i can get it.......
think i'll keep hunting around and see wot i came up with...
thanks guys for the info.......
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in the grand scheme of things it's false economy putting a kr block in there esp if it had done a headgsket that the normal excuse to remove them
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in the grand scheme of things it's false economy putting a kr block in there esp if it had done a headgsket that the normal excuse to remove them
+1
mine was that the alternator has cracks in it :lipsrsealed:
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in the grand scheme of things it's false economy putting a kr block in there esp if it had done a headgsket that the normal excuse to remove them
+1
mine was that the alternator has cracks in it :lipsrsealed:
Mine was noisy tappets :rolleyes:
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thanks guys for the information..............
i'll leave the 1.8 and keep lookin for a ABF lump..........
plus it's all about POWER to lol.....
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It would be interesting to see how it performs!
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yeah it would but still no body knows this and it may not be anything special or worse than a normal 1.8???????
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The management should provide more power, on the basis there isn't a sodding gurt plate in the way of the intake and that it knows far better what it's doing with the mixture and spark.
Crack on.
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ok im a lil cofused.......... is it really worth me doin the 1.8 or should i just wait and get a ABF lump????????
work and cost involved..........
ABF.......buy engine do cambelt change and fit......say£400
1.8 16v on ABF manement......engine£100
headgasket£150
what ever else i need to get it running£??????????
plus headache£££££££££
lol....
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KR would require the same work as you outlined with the ABF but with the added faff of having to get the headgasket done.
Then you need to figure out how you are going to run KR on your existing ABF management.
You are posing the question is it possible to fit a KR with ABF management? Yes.
Is it pointful to fit a KR with ABF management? No.
You'll just end up pulling it out in a few months anyway or trying to sell it on with a bodged hybrid KR/ABF
TBH honest, to me, it's a no brainer wait for an ABF.
Or if you insist, I can sell you my 115k KR with a brand new VAG waterpump/ cambelt + all the other important new bits for 300.00 :grin:
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i see your in suffolk mate. try justvwaudi in theberton, near sizewell. i got an abf from him 6 weeks ago ish. he's got 9a's, abf's and kr's. £300 with a months guarantee on a 120k abf.01728 833600.
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i see your in suffolk mate. try justvwaudi in theberton, near sizewell. i got an abf from him 6 weeks ago ish. he's got 9a's, abf's and kr's. £300 with a months guarantee on a 120k abf.01728 833600.
lol i phoned him up last week and he told me he said he sold 1 just over a month ago.......that would be you then!!!!!!!!lol
well im now on the hunt for an ABF engine gonna get on with the rest of the car as i have plenty to keep me busy like putting the heater matrix back in and finish cleaning the interior then re-fitting the carpets and seats then star on cleaning and freeing off the brakes sort out the bottom arms etc so plenty to do wile i wait for a engine to come up.........plus can drop the seized lump out to......