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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: Hulmie on 11 July 2010, 11:10

Title: Strut Top Issue
Post by: Hulmie on 11 July 2010, 11:10
Right, this has been cover quite a few times on here and would like to get to the bottom of the cause of find out if its just how they should be.

2 weeks ago fitted new coilovers, strut tops, bearings, wishbone bushes etc.

Now when the coilovers and strut tops etc were fitted under the bonnet around the strut top housing the strut top sat nice a flush with the bodywork (Looked right). Now yesterday i looked under and on both sides there is like a good 1-2 cm gap between the bodywork and strut top. Which i think isnt right, as this would give space for the body work to travel when going over bumps.

Now on reading a fitting guide for coilovers it mentioned a Spacer in the build up of parts on the shocker , coilver top hat, spacer, bearing, nut.

When i got my parts from TPS i asked about this spacer and they said its on there diagram but not listed for my car, also in the fitting guide it says they didnt use it.

I just want to get to the bottom of this
Title: Re: Strut Top Issue
Post by: Wazzzer on 11 July 2010, 11:42
no spacer mate, they are only meant for the 4motion :smiley:
Title: Re: Strut Top Issue
Post by: Hulmie on 11 July 2010, 11:46
why does it develop a gap then, it doesnt seem right
Title: Re: Strut Top Issue
Post by: Wazzzer on 11 July 2010, 12:13
was everything down as tight as it should be? Just that the gap is there as the bottom of the cup is sat on the top retaining nut. I'd get you a pic of mine but I have Supersport poly top mounts and the cup is shallower.

Have a check to see if that nut is defo tight enough, needs to be torqued up to the same amount as the top nut
Title: Re: Strut Top Issue
Post by: paulturbo on 11 July 2010, 12:15
my old mark 1 clio has this issue too, however after having 3 seperate sets of coilovers on it over the years, it hasnt effected the handling of the car so i have just lived with it.
 does it knock/make a noise or anything like that?
Title: Re: Strut Top Issue
Post by: Hulmie on 11 July 2010, 18:57
Just been speaking with my mate who is a mechanic and he said thats how it should be as he's done a few and they all sit like that.

But im still not convinced
Title: Re: Strut Top Issue
Post by: warnesey333 on 11 July 2010, 19:47
I was told to try putting it on full lock and see what happens.
Title: Re: Strut Top Issue
Post by: Wayne on 11 July 2010, 21:37
Just been speaking with my mate who is a mechanic and he said thats how it should be as he's done a few and they all sit like that.

But im still not convinced

He is correct, they settle and then you have a gap.
Title: Re: Strut Top Issue
Post by: Hulmie on 11 July 2010, 22:12
Strange set up as you will have travel in the bodywork and nothing controlling it for a short time when going over bumps
Title: Re: Strut Top Issue
Post by: will gti on 11 July 2010, 22:30
ooowwww think im gunna check mine out 2moz aswell
Title: Re: Strut Top Issue
Post by: Hulmie on 12 July 2010, 09:08
yeh let me know Will as weve both recently done ours
Title: Re: Strut Top Issue
Post by: Rhyso on 12 July 2010, 09:10
Mines always had a gap

If it sits flush it usually means the mount is fooked  :undecided:

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=153530.0

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=142648.0

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=143696.10
Title: Re: Strut Top Issue
Post by: Hulmie on 12 July 2010, 09:53
right, i guess then there's nothing wrong.

Just think its a strange set up to have a gap between bodywork and suspension parts. surely stability would be lost when cornering and going over bumps
Title: Re: Strut Top Issue
Post by: Steve_PD on 12 July 2010, 20:58
remember the mk4 wasn't built for going around corners fast :lipsrsealed: it was built for comfy motorway cruises
Title: Re: Strut Top Issue
Post by: Adam on 13 July 2010, 00:21
Mine has a slight gap. So did my mk3.

I'm guessing it's normal. Anyone give a technical reason why?
Title: Re: Strut Top Issue
Post by: topher on 13 July 2010, 00:47
remember all the moving parts of the suspension are securely tightened below the spring cap... the weight of the car does the rest
Title: Re: Strut Top Issue
Post by: Waffs1984 on 13 July 2010, 09:59
Yep your rubber top mount and bearing do the work along with the weight of the car as Topher said. If you had the strut top cap down tight on the strut then the metal of the turret would be directly taking the force which would result in weakening of the metal and long term issues with the turret itself.
Title: Re: Strut Top Issue
Post by: will gti on 13 July 2010, 21:59
just checked mine mate been meanin to do it sooner......the rubber is about 7mm ish of the turret on both sides  :undecided:
Title: Re: Strut Top Issue
Post by: Hulmie on 14 July 2010, 09:08
just checked mine mate been meanin to do it sooner......the rubber is about 7mm ish of the turret on both sides  :undecided:

yeh would say mines about the same. least we both know thats how it should be.
Title: Re: Strut Top Issue
Post by: vwfiend on 14 July 2010, 17:15
Mine is the same also with FK's. I didnt even think it was a problem........ :grin:    I got told the gap changes as you turn the wheel as one goes up slightly, the other goes down?  :undecided: