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Title: Mk2 16V 1200 Idle?
Post by: lingl9z on 05 July 2010, 20:01
Hey basically picked up a 16V gti and the idle is sticking at around 1100 and 1200, its a steady idle just seem's a little too high to be normal, how would I go about sorting this?

Also I do hear a noise that sounds like a tire leak (can't find any leaks in vac pipes though?) any experts in Croydon area?

Cheers Rich.
Title: Re: Mk2 16V 1200 Idle?
Post by: emery1990 on 05 July 2010, 20:28
Mine idles at this too, if its dropped below there it will be lumpy, you can change the idle by a little brass screw on the throttle body area, but it will probally be lumpy and thats why its set to idle so high. Not sure what the cause is though.
Title: Re: Mk2 16V 1200 Idle?
Post by: lingl9z on 05 July 2010, 20:39
That's quiet strange lol, so yours idle's fine but perfectly at the level it's at? and if lowered it'll flutuate? hmm, doesnt that waste a lot of fuel?
Title: Re: Mk2 16V 1200 Idle?
Post by: clipperjay on 05 July 2010, 20:43
Go and check Rubjonny's idle or lumpy idle threads in the stickied maintenance thread eliminate the obvious then come back!

If you suspect VAC leak get some washing up liquid and start foaming the joints for suspect items!
Title: Re: Mk2 16V 1200 Idle?
Post by: emery1990 on 05 July 2010, 20:47
When i didnt have a clue, the man i bought it from obviously knew i was a newb to cars said that its high because when dropping the clutch at high revs it helps the car stop better, i was non the wiser though! i think i must have a vac leak havnt checked my isv yet though.
Title: Re: Mk2 16V 1200 Idle?
Post by: clipperjay on 05 July 2010, 20:50
 :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Mk2 16V 1200 Idle?
Post by: emery1990 on 05 July 2010, 20:52
I can  just imaging if he had said some of the stuff he said to me too the likes of you and other car enthusiast!!  :grin:
Title: Re: Mk2 16V 1200 Idle?
Post by: clipperjay on 05 July 2010, 20:53
He would have a new Orifice to talk from!
So did the other chap come down to help you yet? :evil:
Title: Re: Mk2 16V 1200 Idle?
Post by: lingl9z on 05 July 2010, 20:56
Go and check Rubjonny's idle or lumpy idle threads in the stickied maintenance thread eliminate the obvious then come back!

If you suspect VAC leak get some washing up liquid and start foaming the joints for suspect items!


Cheers bud, do you have a link? can't seem to find it, did do a search but brought up stuff mainly about a flutuation idle ?
Title: Re: Mk2 16V 1200 Idle?
Post by: clipperjay on 05 July 2010, 21:00
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=99852.0

Its at the top of the MKII section called Maintanance fella!
 
Title: Re: Mk2 16V 1200 Idle?
Post by: lingl9z on 05 July 2010, 21:03
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=99852.0

Its at the top of the MKII section called Maintanance fella!
 

Cheers for that buddy! I'll Take a look! :)
Title: Re: Mk2 16V 1200 Idle?
Post by: lingl9z on 05 July 2010, 21:06
Idle speed high

1)Check auxillary air valve; where is this and how do I check it?
Ensure that it is closing.

2)Vacumm leaks; - I know how to check for these.
Self explainatory.

3)Check the minimum air; not as self explanitory as it seems!
Self explainatory.

(I'm a bit of a K-jet noob tbh)
Title: Re: Mk2 16V 1200 Idle?
Post by: clipperjay on 05 July 2010, 21:07
Hint most of that is connected to your airfilter box internally and externally!  :wink:
Title: Re: Mk2 16V 1200 Idle?
Post by: emery1990 on 05 July 2010, 21:11
gay jet more like! youll get there soon mate,

No he didnt come down and help lol Got to get my flywheel off aswell, thats going to hurt my brain alot as i understand its a gearbox out job  :shocked:
Title: Re: Mk2 16V 1200 Idle?
Post by: clipperjay on 05 July 2010, 21:15
LOL :grin: Yeah but once you get it running sweet you will never look back!
You haven't seen mine? It's in bits and I know it will NOT run right afterwards, untill I tinker with her, so talk to her, she will listen soon or later!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mk2 16V 1200 Idle?
Post by: emery1990 on 05 July 2010, 21:18
yer true!, there isnt even alot wrong with it though, starter motor stalls when cold and runs lean and high idle, nothing major i dont think. Touch wood :D i bet someone with good knowledge could sort it in a n hour lol, its taking me since april  :undecided:
Title: Re: Mk2 16V 1200 Idle?
Post by: clipperjay on 05 July 2010, 21:32
There is a reason why they call it a engineers car!
In my mind when I was a kid I knew nothing, but I know my cars inside and out and TBH if you do a job yourself its done to the letter because you're scared of screwing it up, this means the job was done right you just have to grow a pair and get on with it, but hey to me problems with cars are fun. :smiley: 
Title: Re: Mk2 16V 1200 Idle?
Post by: emery1990 on 05 July 2010, 21:37
yer true, if i muck up on a job it could kill me!

Everyone goes on a bout how simple the cars are though!

Wish i found them fun lol I get bored of problems from work
Title: Re: Mk2 16V 1200 Idle?
Post by: lingl9z on 05 July 2010, 21:40
Cheers for that buddy :) I'll attempt most things on my cars, one thing I won't touch is the timing belt which I need to get done as the guy before said he had no idea when it was last done so worth doing!  - Any know if these engine's are interferance or non-interferance ? :)
Title: Re: Mk2 16V 1200 Idle?
Post by: clipperjay on 05 July 2010, 21:51
yer true, if i muck up on a job it could kill me!

Everyone goes on a bout how simple the cars are though!

Wish i found them fun lol I get bored of problems from work

Thats why I'm going to put disclaimers on all my replies to you :grin:
Emery I work on cars to get away from problems with work!

Cheers for that buddy :) I'll attempt most things on my cars, one thing I won't touch is the timing belt which I need to get done as the guy before said he had no idea when it was last done so worth doing!  - Any know if these engine's are interferance or non-interferance ? :)

16V timings are more important get it wrong and it will run like a bucket of spanners in your block!
Top tip cut half of the timing belt slip over the new one tension up, cut off remaining belt and your done!
Remember to keeping an eye on the flywheel markers on the gear box aswell!!! :wink:
Title: Re: Mk2 16V 1200 Idle?
Post by: lingl9z on 05 July 2010, 22:14
Lol, wish I had the confidence to change the belt my self, I would have attempted it on the starlet as it was non-interfernace so unlikely to bend any valves! I don't wanna risk messing it up on this, I'd litrally cry, save up some money and do a 1.8T conversion.  - Thought I really want to keep it as a 1.8 16V sounds fairly nice!
Title: Re: Mk2 16V 1200 Idle?
Post by: emery1990 on 05 July 2010, 22:22
haha, yer ill have to sign em for ya !

I do like it really, just trys my patience when it looks like im doing something for an hour and came out not solving nothing lol

You should put in a 2.0l for a bit more power mate, cant wait till get mine running properly up top end, its not slow atm!

The 1.8t arnt the most exciting engine to drive though, i do prefer my valver to my 1.8t :D
Title: Re: Mk2 16V 1200 Idle?
Post by: lingl9z on 05 July 2010, 22:41
Lol im exactly the same, takes me ages to get things done, I go have a crack at it for ages (few hours) come in have a tea, sit down and think through another route (then it gets dark) I give up and sometimes try another day :D The 306 GTI-6 took me like 3 hours to get the lambda sensor changed was like jam tight! then when taking the car down off the axel stands my jack failed and almost took my arm off! bad times, I'm quiet a hazzard working on my cars, anyone elses I seem to do a bloody good job :)
Title: Re: Mk2 16V 1200 Idle?
Post by: danny_p on 06 July 2010, 00:27
every one says 20vt  includeing a lot of my mates round here.  and just to piss them off theres a tweeked BAM in the shed but as far as i'm concirned that belongs in someone elses car,  i like 16v's and 16vt's   and there what i spend my time and effort playing with.

got a GTi on the way and i can't wait for it to arrive it's going to get teh ABF i built for the syncro for a bit because i want to play with it, bring on the alcohol and happygas
Title: Re: Mk2 16V 1200 Idle?
Post by: emery1990 on 06 July 2010, 19:42
Id love a 16vt but arnt they like 4k to do ?
Title: Re: Mk2 16V 1200 Idle?
Post by: Neo Badness on 06 July 2010, 20:51
Id love a 16vt but arnt they like 4k to do ?

Only if you were paying someone else for a turn key effort.

Seen it done for less, mind you I've also seen spun bearings :lipsrsealed:

There's a good thread on here with loads of links to geek out over  re. 'charging your 16v.