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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: paulturbo on 22 June 2010, 16:50

Title: 17705 is doing my nut in...
Post by: paulturbo on 22 June 2010, 16:50
right, i have so far replaced the maf, dv with a forge, replaced a lot of pipes, checked for leaks etc, but i am still getting this code and the car is still letting off a high boost when driving hard, its really getting annoying now.Everytime it hits or near peak boost in each geat it suddenly lets off and feels like its in limp mode,then 30 secs late rits back to normal!

anyone have any suggestions or anyone live near me where i can swap my n75 with theres to see if its that?

Ta
Title: Re: 17705 is doing my nut in...
Post by: topher on 22 June 2010, 19:43
is it definitely 17705? sounds an awful lot like what happens when you get overboost. what year/engine code is your car?
Title: Re: 17705 is doing my nut in...
Post by: paulturbo on 22 June 2010, 20:18
yep,it comes up on the reader as that,but the engine management light does not come on its a 2001 AUM. :smiley:
Title: Re: 17705 is doing my nut in...
Post by: 2001gti4 on 23 June 2010, 08:34
Mine does it too and comes up with code 17963. Most of my PCV pipework is dirty/oily so I'm going to get that replaced and see if it makes a difference, I changed the N75 for a second hand one off Ebay and it hasn't resolved the issue. I'm trying to spot a pattern for when the overboost happens, maybe that'll give me a clue....
Title: Re: 17705 is doing my nut in...
Post by: linz on 23 June 2010, 09:47
ah im over boosting too i agree very annoying  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 17705 is doing my nut in...
Post by: paulturbo on 23 June 2010, 13:06
it seems a very common problem on here, so there must be a simple solution but i am dammed if i can find out what it is.
Title: Re: 17705 is doing my nut in...
Post by: Hulmie on 23 June 2010, 13:10
i think with the current temperatures it isnt helping us with remapped cars. I think a few people have noticed an increase in boost as its trying to compensate for the added temp
Title: Re: 17705 is doing my nut in...
Post by: RTechUK on 23 June 2010, 19:48
To keep flagging 17705 there has to be a major boost leak or a sensor fault.

With 17963 and 17705 the most common issue is the map sensor reading wrong, its a basic 0-5v scale sensor which can be effected by dirt and oil.  If its reading the atmospheric pressure wrong then it can have a knock on effect across the whole scale. It happens a lot on early stock mapped AUMs and even more so once remapped, Later AUM mapping has a greater deviation threshold but can still flag the dct.


17705/17963 is flagged up by the ecu, the ecu torque structure knows how much air is drawn via maf v rpm v ait ect, in a fashion the ecu can work out the boost from these without even having the map sensor in play,nut if there is a discrepancy between the maf structure reading and map reading the ecu will flag the dct.
Title: Re: 17705 is doing my nut in...
Post by: paulturbo on 23 June 2010, 20:20
ah, well my maf sensor is 2 weeks old and a genuine vw item,so i doubt its a problem with that or could it be?

where should or how should i start checking for a boost leak?or where are the most common leaking points?

Ta
Title: Re: 17705 is doing my nut in...
Post by: RTechUK on 23 June 2010, 20:28
ah, well my maf sensor is 2 weeks old and a genuine vw item,so i doubt its a problem with that or could it be?

where should or how should i start checking for a boost leak?or where are the most common leaking points?

Ta

Smoke test the boost,PCV and Evap system first,

Is your car stock or mapped?
Title: Re: 17705 is doing my nut in...
Post by: paulturbo on 23 June 2010, 20:33
stock,i want it running properly before i come to you to get it mapped, otherwise theres no point!
Title: Re: 17705 is doing my nut in...
Post by: RTechUK on 23 June 2010, 20:37
stock,i want it running properly before i come to you to get it mapped, otherwise theres no point!
lol if its running bad we wont map it.

Where are you from?

Nick
Title: Re: 17705 is doing my nut in...
Post by: paulturbo on 23 June 2010, 21:37
berkshire, bit of a trek to you as well so i wouldnt want to come up until i sort this problem out.
Title: Re: 17705 is doing my nut in...
Post by: RTechUK on 23 June 2010, 22:26
berkshire, bit of a trek to you as well so i wouldnt want to come up until i sort this problem out.

If you do get stuck I will sort the car out for you, just when you book in for the remap make sure you mention you have running issues so we can make sure you get a half day booking slot which will give time for diagnsotics and repairs.