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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Robin G on 02 June 2010, 21:18

Title: MK5 Radiator Fan Problems or not?
Post by: Robin G on 02 June 2010, 21:18
I had previous problems with the thermostat housing, which i hope have been fixed. During this period the fan was coming on just after the car has started, having replaced the thermostat housing, the fan still seems to come when the car isnt at running tempreture........ Any ideas anyone ?????? I was thinking about tempreture switch or something similar.........Im no expert  :smiley: To be honest im not sure if this is a problem or not, also the fan seems to be noisier than others i have had?
Title: Re: MK5 Radiator Fan Problems or not?
Post by: tuscan_thunder on 03 June 2010, 15:09
I'm new to GTis too but I suspect this is your air-con fan (the smaller of the two fans) running. 

I was surprised how noticeable it is. 

The small fan on mine comes on when the air con is on and off when the button's in the 'econ' position (air con off).

Title: Re: MK5 Radiator Fan Problems or not?
Post by: Robin G on 04 June 2010, 22:41
Thank you for your help Tuscan Thunder, I am goin to investigate more in the morning to see if thats it, hopefully it is and not something else. I dare say i will be back in touch with something else !!!! Actually i think i have a rear wheel bearing gone !!!
Title: Re: MK5 Radiator Fan Problems or not?
Post by: Robin G on 14 June 2010, 21:02
Had a look at the air con fan, it aint it !!! bugger...

I have found that the fan was coming on when the car is cold first thing, also when the car was around 50 deg ??? I find it a little strange that this is happenin. I have replaced the thermosat housing as this was leaking slightly.... but the fan still comes on ?? someone help !!!!!!
Title: Re: MK5 Radiator Fan Problems or not?
Post by: Colinv on 14 June 2010, 21:23
Had a look at the air con fan, it aint it !!! bugger...

I have found that the fan was coming on when the car is cold first thing, also when the car was around 50 deg ??? I find it a little strange that this is happenin. I have replaced the thermosat housing as this was leaking slightly.... but the fan still comes on ?? someone help !!!!!!

hi again mate, every chance its the coolant temp sensor (G62) at fault. done a few on the mk5 range. the sensor goes faulty internally and tricks the ecu into giving it the wrong engine temp. hence causing the fan to cut in
Title: Re: MK5 Radiator Fan Problems or not?
Post by: Robin G on 14 June 2010, 21:33
ahhhhh glad your here colin, you are some guy !!

Ok then next question for you !  parts??, Price??, difficult to get to ??

Thanks ever so much for you help mate...... never known a forum to be so helpful.......
Title: Re: MK5 Radiator Fan Problems or not?
Post by: Colinv on 14 June 2010, 21:39
ahhhhh glad your here colin, you are some guy !!

Ok then next question for you !  parts??, Price??, difficult to get to ??

Thanks ever so much for you help mate...... never known a forum to be so helpful.......


haha i think off hand there around £30, it sits into a coolant hose at the right hand side of the engine up the top. remove the engine cover  and look above where the gearbox joins the engine. you will see a black plastic horseshoe clip holding in place in its housing. if you change it, ensure the car isnt warm as you will burn your hand in roasting hot coolant. open the coolant reservoir lid too. quite a bit of coolant will pour out so have the new sensor ready to go in as soon as you remove the old one to prevent losing much coolant then its just a case of topping the reservoir up with some water
Title: Re: MK5 Radiator Fan Problems or not?
Post by: Robin G on 14 June 2010, 21:44
Magic Colin Magic ! would there be a part number for this, ill have to order it from Hawco in inverness, or could i just explain which sensor i need??

Thanks again Colin
Title: Re: MK5 Radiator Fan Problems or not?
Post by: Colinv on 14 June 2010, 21:50
pm me your chassis number if you want and ill get you the exact part number through my work in the morning if you want? It should start WVWZZZ1KZ........

 I cant guarentee this will cure your problem though, its just what i reckon the likeliest cause is, going from what ive came across before. You could try phoning that place in inverness and explain its a coolant/engine temp sensor your after and is fitted into a housing on coolant hoses found at the side of the cylinder head.

If the sensor is playing up, it can also cause poor starting in coldish weather
Title: Re: MK5 Radiator Fan Problems or not?
Post by: Robin G on 14 June 2010, 22:06
Just got the number from my MOT cert : wvwzzz1kz5w229236. Reg is KX 05 OVL

This is magic........ cheers..

The fan coming on all the time really annoys the wife.........

I really do hope this solves the problem, like you said you cant guarentee it but if its only £30 its worth the chance, put it this way the wife would spend more at the shops......  I owe you a pint if i ever meet you !
Title: Re: MK5 Radiator Fan Problems or not?
Post by: TrickGTI on 14 June 2010, 22:09
just guna poke my nose in ha colin dont suppose youv had any in with bad starting problems.. its pretty much only ever first thing in the morning i go to start it and it sort of like skips a beat or 2 and then strikes up fine and carnt fault how it drives or runs once its going. its strange coz it not like a missfire, best way to describe it is, its like trying to start a diesel without glow plugs but not as bad as that ha one of my friends works at vw but hes abit of a spiv and slow so dont even think he was listen to me.
Title: Re: MK5 Radiator Fan Problems or not?
Post by: Colinv on 14 June 2010, 22:11
Just got the number from my MOT cert : wvwzzz1kz5w229236. Reg is KX 05 OVL

This is magic........ cheers..

The fan coming on all the time really annoys the wife.........

I really do hope this solves the problem, like you said you cant guarentee it but if its only £30 its worth the chance, put it this way the wife would spend more at the shops......  I owe you a pint if i ever meet you !


its no problem at all mate, just happy to help out. ill get the part number first thing in the morning and ill either update this thread or pm it to you around half 8 in the morning. as you say though, its not the most expensive thing in the world to give a shot. ive saw them go faulty on the mk5 before so theres a possible chance this is the problem, hopefully.

I'll also have a look on elsa to see if anything pops up in relation the problem
Title: Re: MK5 Radiator Fan Problems or not?
Post by: Colinv on 14 June 2010, 22:16
just guna poke my nose in ha colin dont suppose youv had any in with bad starting problems.. its pretty much only ever first thing in the morning i go to start it and it sort of like skips a beat or 2 and then strikes up fine and carnt fault how it drives or runs once its going. its strange coz it not like a missfire, best way to describe it is, its like trying to start a diesel without glow plugs but not as bad as that ha one of my friends works at vw but hes abit of a spiv and slow so dont even think he was listen to me.

sounds like a possible cam position sensor to me mate, right on top of the cam cover usually. cant picture the sensor on the gti though. basically the car uses the crank position sensor (back of the gearbox) to start the car using the pick up off the flywheel and the cam position sensor allows it to start straight away as soon as you turn the key. If the cam sensor acts up, it can cause it to be a bit harder to start sometimes, a bit like taking an extra crank or two to get it going. theres not been many in for poor starting though that I can think of off hand.
Title: Re: MK5 Radiator Fan Problems or not?
Post by: TrickGTI on 14 June 2010, 22:19
I alright thanks anyway ill have a look for it and price one up no harm done to replace it i suppose its just the one thing that annoys me about my car ill let you know though if it fixes it :) cheers
Title: Re: MK5 Radiator Fan Problems or not?
Post by: Colinv on 14 June 2010, 22:26
I alright thanks anyway ill have a look for it and price one up no harm done to replace it i suppose its just the one thing that annoys me about my car ill let you know though if it fixes it :) cheers

no problem mate
Title: Re: MK5 Radiator Fan Problems or not?
Post by: Colinv on 15 June 2010, 09:28
06A 919 501A is the part number your after Robin mate. The head of the sensor should be black when the plug is removed off of it and there should be 2 wires going to it. You can look at the plug when it's off the sensor to make sure there are 2 terminals on it. I'll have a look on elsa for you shortly
Title: Re: MK5 Radiator Fan Problems or not?
Post by: Robin G on 18 June 2010, 11:05
Thanks very much colin for your help going to order the part today. Hopefully this will solve the problem. Ill let you know how things pan out !!! Cheers.
Title: Re: MK5 Radiator Fan Problems or not?
Post by: Colinv on 18 June 2010, 12:21
Thanks very much colin for your help going to order the part today. Hopefully this will solve the problem. Ill let you know how things pan out !!! Cheers.

cheers mate
Title: Re: MK5 Radiator Fan Problems or not?
Post by: Robin G on 23 June 2010, 21:30
Well changed the coolant temp sensor...................... and low and behold the same problem persists !!  :angry:  :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: