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Title: Pioneer AVic F910BT>>>>>>all in 1 DVD SAT NAV BLUETOOTH
Post by: nadlad on 09 May 2010, 18:32
now then,


thinkign of getting a all in one system for my car, such as this one

http://www.dynamicsounds.co.uk/pioneer-avicf910bt-navigation-system-bluetooth-ipodiphone-card-p-9797.html

ideally i need a usb input a decent hands free such as built in parrot  and a sat nav syatem built in... at the moment am still fully reasearchiing into this as i also want to be able to get longwave radio so i can listen to cricket test match special.... sad i know but u know.


i was just wonderign what your opinions on this system are and if theres any pics of it installed in a mk4 cheers.


nad
Title: Re: Pioneer AVic F910BT>>>>>>all in 1 DVD SAT NAV BLUETOOTH
Post by: troublestarter on 09 May 2010, 19:04
they are very good units but the start up time is very slow and sometimes it can take a while to read a memory stick
from a personal experience i find customers would rather have an equivelant kenwood like the current DNX-5260BT
Title: Re: Pioneer AVic F910BT>>>>>>all in 1 DVD SAT NAV BLUETOOTH
Post by: nadlad on 09 May 2010, 19:16
yeah that looks good u know, good alternative its got the LONGWAVE radio which i need, i wonder what the handsfree is liek , if it spowered by parrot liek the pioneers it shud be good, coz the one in the 90bt pioneer is crap.
Title: Re: Pioneer AVic F910BT>>>>>>all in 1 DVD SAT NAV BLUETOOTH
Post by: nadlad on 09 May 2010, 19:37
how many outputs does the kenwood have, am runnign a sub and amp
Title: Re: Pioneer AVic F910BT>>>>>>all in 1 DVD SAT NAV BLUETOOTH
Post by: troublestarter on 09 May 2010, 20:00
the bluetooth is a parrot kit built in and works brilliantly and it has 2 pre outs one for front and the rear is switchable to sub out aswell
the h/u has built in high and low pass filters aswell
Title: Re: Pioneer AVic F910BT>>>>>>all in 1 DVD SAT NAV BLUETOOTH
Post by: nadlad on 09 May 2010, 20:19
whats a high and low pass filters?

at the mo i have the pioneer 80bt headunit, i think it has 3 outputs... ave got a sub runnign and the front speakers are runnign on sep channels

Kenwood DNX-5260BT Audio features:

    * Max. Output Power (MOSFET Power IC) 4 x 50W
    * Pre-out 3RCA: Front/Rear/Subwoofer
    * Pre-out Output Level 2V
    * Auxiliary Input AV Front Input with optional CA-C3AV
    * Rear / Subwoofer Switchable 
    * Subwoofer Reference Level Adj. 
    * Dual Zone Source & Volume Control 
    * Dual Zone (FRONT / REAR Switchable) 
    * Source Tone Control & Memory Bass / Mid / Treble
    * Balance/Fader Control 
    * Loudness Control 
    * Att.(-20dB) with smooth Volume Return 
    * System QEX (Preset & Manual Sound Control) 
    * System E's+ (Built-in HPF & LPF) 
    * Beep On/Off 

the pioneer 80bt the one i cuurently use has this
Connectivity

    * Aux-in (Rear)
    * iPod Direct Control
    * USB Input
    * IP Bus
    * 3 RCA Preout (F+R+S/W or NON-FAD)
    * Sub-display Output
    * Hard-wired Remote Input
    * Direct Sub Drive
    * 4V High Voltage Output
    * Full Control Expansion Units - Multi-CD, TV, Multi-DVD, iPod
    * Partial Control Expansion Units - DAB


what is the difference between the 4v high voltage output (pioneer 80bt) and the 2v output that the kenwood has?
Title: Re: Pioneer AVic F910BT>>>>>>all in 1 DVD SAT NAV BLUETOOTH
Post by: troublestarter on 09 May 2010, 20:55
high and low pass filters means crossovers
just remembered the 5260bt had three i was thinking of the older model
the only difference between having 4v pre outs rather than 2v means when running off amps the 4v signal from the h/u just means the gain on the amp would not need to be set as high as a 2 volt preout
so in essence if you got the kenwood you may need to turn your gains up slightly on the amps to match the output of the previous pioneer unit
Title: Re: Pioneer AVic F910BT>>>>>>all in 1 DVD SAT NAV BLUETOOTH
Post by: nadlad on 09 May 2010, 22:21
oh right so barely noticeable then...

now i need to find one for around 300 lol
Title: Re: Pioneer AVic F910BT>>>>>>all in 1 DVD SAT NAV BLUETOOTH
Post by: troublestarter on 09 May 2010, 22:37
GOOD LUCK its a new model
Title: Re: Pioneer AVic F910BT>>>>>>all in 1 DVD SAT NAV BLUETOOTH
Post by: nadlad on 10 May 2010, 00:35
whats the model before that one, as in they must fo doen an end of line equivalent model before bringing this one out of similar spec?
Title: Re: Pioneer AVic F910BT>>>>>>all in 1 DVD SAT NAV BLUETOOTH
Post by: troublestarter on 10 May 2010, 09:06
5240bt but i doubt very much you will find one for £300 even 2nd hand
Title: Re: Pioneer AVic F910BT>>>>>>all in 1 DVD SAT NAV BLUETOOTH
Post by: DanoGTI on 10 May 2010, 18:24
I've got an F900bt (Pioneer) - upgrade the OS to Vers 3, and the machine speeds up.

Not got a Mk4, but in a Mk5, looks like this -

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/ScoobyDoo555/DSCF4737.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/ScoobyDoo555/DSCF4732.jpg)

I think it's a great machine.

You WON'T get even the old model for £300. At a push you might get an F700 (CD, not DVD and no video outputs IIRC)........

HTH in some way :smiley:

DAn
Title: Re: Pioneer AVic F910BT>>>>>>all in 1 DVD SAT NAV BLUETOOTH
Post by: asif on 11 May 2010, 13:16
There was a chap on the other mk forum about 2 months ago letting this system go for £300 I couldn;t belive my eyes but as usaul I didn't have funds ready so he wacked it on ebay and sold it for a bargain £350, I can't believe he was even thinking of selling it to me for £300, I was proper wounded that I didn't buy it :( he had every fooking thing with it aswell and it was still mint :(

Bargains like that only come once in a blue moon, since then i've been looking for this stereo and there aint none going cheap anywhere let alone near £300 mark :(
Title: Re: Pioneer AVic F910BT>>>>>>all in 1 DVD SAT NAV BLUETOOTH
Post by: p3eps on 17 May 2010, 21:49
Is there not a version of this now thats actually made specifically for VW - which has no need for a fascia adapter?
Title: Re: Pioneer AVic F910BT>>>>>>all in 1 DVD SAT NAV BLUETOOTH
Post by: DanoGTI on 19 May 2010, 17:37
yep - very pricey and looks naff (imho).

(http://dynamiccaraudio.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/avic_f9110_bt.jpg)

 :sick:

Dan
Title: Re: Pioneer AVic F910BT>>>>>>all in 1 DVD SAT NAV BLUETOOTH
Post by: asif on 20 May 2010, 16:46
Nadlad you seen this? Maybe a bit of haggling and a flash of the cash you may get your wicked way with this unit it's on ED38
http://www.edition38.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=300152
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It's currently down to £375 from a starting price of £450, this may give you a guide of where your at with an offer.