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General => Detailing => Topic started by: Big Tone on 08 May 2010, 12:58
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My wheels are S*****D, they are the standard two piece BBS rims, the outer part has been buffed before I bought the car and now it is pitted with dirt, which does not clean off, whats the best way to get rid of this and prevent it from happening again?
Thought about taking the rims apart then buffing the pitted part but I am told they are a B***H to get back together.
Any experience with this?
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try a clay bar and some lube on them to lift the crap out of them then polish them with a finishing polish,seal and wax them, sealing and waxing rims is the best way to protect them and keep them clean, the more often you do this the cleaner they'll stay and will be easier to clean up.
get into a routine of doing it, say after your weekly wash or whatever give them a couple of layers of wax.
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nice one
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Dan... i think if they are anything like mine they will take a bit more than clay to sort them out...
Tone if you are running polished rims and have let them go you are generally on a one way ticket to hurt...
however there is a way to rescue these - i did this last year but it takes a good half day and an aching arm!!
Start off by thoroughly cleaning the wheel, preferably jet washing them
You will need;
Various grades of wet and dry sandpaper from fairly coarse to fine - i think i used the following pack from halfords
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_154359_categoryId_165610_langId_-1?cm_vc=IOV4PDPZ1 (http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_154359_categoryId_165610_langId_-1?cm_vc=IOV4PDPZ1)
Bucket and water
Metal polish (autosol or belgom alu or autoglym metal polish) and soft cotton cloths
cups of tea (several)
I am guessing that your wheel rim looks something like this:
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4060/4589443653_8a15cc1c1f.jpg)
start with the harshest sandpaper and once wet work the sandpaper round the rim... you will have to get into all the nooks and crannies using the folded edge of the paper
once you are happy with the finish from one grade work your way up to the next grade
you should start to get a finish something akin to:
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4034/4590068352_8308d4b387.jpg) it isn't perfect but it is better than it was
continue with the ever finer wet sandpaper until you think that your arm is about to drop off... then continue some more, then realise that you are only on the first wheel and what the fcuk have you started and will you ever finish this, then think of ways to get someone else to do it for you.
you'll realise that there is a point that you can continue no more with the sandpaper... this is the point to stop and stretch your back and have a nice cup of tea from your Golf GTi mug ;)
move onto the polish... the more you can polish the better the result I would say... keep using and using it... you will notice the finish start to come up slighty better
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4018/4590075710_6470c6ede6.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3305/4590079898_89d8a3148b.jpg)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4590085000_e3613c3d2b.jpg)
hopefully you will reach a stage where you are happy with what you have achieved:
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4047/4590089198_ed9957d006.jpg)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4042/4590093520_1fd4d66d10.jpg)
ok, so they aren't perfect but they are a hell of a lot better than they were...
once you have got to the stage where you are happy I would jetwash, dry thoroughly, got for a short spin in dry weather to expel any water and then seal using wheel sealant or hard wax
they won't last forever but if you use wheel sealant and a non-acidic wheel cleaner such as bilberry then you will be able to keep them cleaner for longer... mine stood me from last march through to november time when the salt started to be put on the roads.. then they went to sh1t again :laugh:
and no... i am never doing that job again!
ps. you might see people recommending that you pop the car on axle stands and spin the wheels using the throttle.. and then hold the sand paper against the wheel in the same spot. I think this is highly dangerous and an easy way to lose/break a finger or hand so therefore do NOT recommend that you do this.
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nice work guy :smiley: well worth the effort and you've got a nice finish there :grin:
i was suggesting a claybar just to try :wink:
obviously if they're as foooked as yours were then what you've suggested is spot on :smiley:
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Dan... i think if they are anything like mine they will take a bit more than clay to sort them out...
Tone if you are running polished rims and have let them go you are generally on a one way ticket to hurt...
however there is a way to rescue these - i did this last year but it takes a good half day and an aching arm!!
Start off by thoroughly cleaning the wheel, preferably jet washing them
You will need;
Various grades of wet and dry sandpaper from fairly coarse to fine - i think i used the following pack from halfords
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_154359_categoryId_165610_langId_-1?cm_vc=IOV4PDPZ1 (http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_154359_categoryId_165610_langId_-1?cm_vc=IOV4PDPZ1)
Bucket and water
Metal polish (autosol or belgom alu or autoglym metal polish) and soft cotton cloths
cups of tea (several)
I am guessing that your wheel rim looks something like this:
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4060/4589443653_8a15cc1c1f.jpg)
start with the harshest sandpaper and once wet work the sandpaper round the rim... you will have to get into all the nooks and crannies using the folded edge of the paper
once you are happy with the finish from one grade work your way up to the next grade
you should start to get a finish something akin to:
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4034/4590068352_8308d4b387.jpg) it isn't perfect but it is better than it was
continue with the ever finer wet sandpaper until you think that your arm is about to drop off... then continue some more, then realise that you are only on the first wheel and what the fcuk have you started and will you ever finish this, then think of ways to get someone else to do it for you.
you'll realise that there is a point that you can continue no more with the sandpaper... this is the point to stop and stretch your back and have a nice cup of tea from your Golf GTi mug ;)
move onto the polish... the more you can polish the better the result I would say... keep using and using it... you will notice the finish start to come up slighty better
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4018/4590075710_6470c6ede6.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3305/4590079898_89d8a3148b.jpg)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4590085000_e3613c3d2b.jpg)
hopefully you will reach a stage where you are happy with what you have achieved:
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4047/4590089198_ed9957d006.jpg)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4042/4590093520_1fd4d66d10.jpg)
ok, so they aren't perfect but they are a hell of a lot better than they were...
once you have got to the stage where you are happy I would jetwash, dry thoroughly, got for a short spin in dry weather to expel any water and then seal using wheel sealant or hard wax
they won't last forever but if you use wheel sealant and a non-acidic wheel cleaner such as bilberry then you will be able to keep them cleaner for longer... mine stood me from last march through to november time when the salt started to be put on the roads.. then they went to sh1t again :laugh:
and no... i am never doing that job again!
ps. you might see people recommending that you pop the car on axle stands and spin the wheels using the throttle.. and then hold the sand paper against the wheel in the same spot. I think this is highly dangerous and an easy way to lose/break a finger or hand so therefore do NOT recommend that you do this.
A tip I have seen is to put some blue masking tape round the lip during winter. :)
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one of my customers has an old motor with plenty of chrome on it and during the winter he uses white grease to protect it while in storage.
once you've got them to that level keep them sealed and well waxed they should be fine.
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Nice one, my wheels look exactly like the first pic, what about a buffing wheel on a grinder? or is that a bit harsh?
Don't worry, wont be doing the throttle/axle stand thing.
Dont have a golf gti mug though :cry:
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Nice one, my wheels look exactly like the first pic, what about a buffing wheel on a grinder? or is that a bit harsh?
Don't worry, wont be doing the throttle/axle stand thing.
Dont have a golf gti mug though :cry:
you could try it... i found a farecla buffing set for a drill and used that for some of it... but it still wasn't easy
i thought about trying this - mothers powerball
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUu-pKeYeIE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUu-pKeYeIE)
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How easy to split the rims is it?
Also, do you think I should polish up the middle also, may look a bit daft with just the outer bead polished up. The middle is laqured up though i think?
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How easy to split the rims is it?
Also, do you think I should polish up the middle also, may look a bit daft with just the outer bead polished up. The middle is laqured up though i think?
not sure.. i think you'd need a torx head bit and a torque wrench, possibly new bolts (you might want to have shiny new bolts to go with your shiny rims and a painted interior)
i would repaint the inner a colour you prefer... why keep it standard?
nb. this thread is in danger of venturing into cosmetic territory so if you need more info on splitting/refurb I will move the thread into that section :smiley:
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ta. ill start a new thread and change the title. thanks
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serioulsy mate, you have to be on it if you want to rock fully polished rims or they will look crap in no time
i have a job on just keeping my centre caps looking fresh and i am always cleaning my car, winter is a killer, best tghing then is to use vasaline on them, but iv since got some plastic winter caps so wont have that prob next winter
if i was you id get the full rim refurbed and paint both parts, the centre a gray or whatever colour you like and the rim silver
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Nice work guy, a finish to be proud of!
Meh the outer rim on most RXII's goes to poop!
May have to get mine out for a shine session :)
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Read this.
Splitting and re-building:
http://the-polisher.tripod.com/id6.html
http://the-polisher.tripod.com/index.html
Polishing:
If buffing only:
http://www.frost.co.uk/item_Detail.asp?productID=8273&frostProductName=Wheel%20Polishing%20Kit
If pitting is bad:
http://www.frost.co.uk/item_Detail.asp?productID=8272&frostProductName=Heavy%20Duty%20Polishing%20And%20Abrasive%20Kit
Ebay also....
:cool:
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thats a realy good link, but what if they the mk3 golf anni rims? 2pc? BBS RXII, the bolts on them? anyone know where you could get the bolts from? what about if the bolts snap? what do you do there then?