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Title: Road racing?
Post by: emery1990 on 04 May 2010, 22:28
Just wandering whether theres any events where they actually shut off parts of counrty roads to hold events and that members of the public can join in? Not just any old person obviously? Or does your car need to be kitted out for track use> roll cage's etc?

I do like the speedy drives around the counrty but never racing down them in fear of head on crashes.
Would feel so much safer knowing nothing is coming the opposite way and being able to drive my mk2 like it should:D
Title: Re: Road racing?
Post by: Horney on 04 May 2010, 22:32
Closest you'll get these days is 12 car on open roads or Hillclimb/sprint on closed roads. Both those cater for production cars.

Better still are track days. Circuit or airfield, can use your road car and everyone is going the same way!

Nick
Title: Re: Road racing?
Post by: emery1990 on 04 May 2010, 22:36
Oh have they been banned from the HSE then ! I would like to do a trackday someday id like to go up thruxton as that's reasonable close, really close to you. Have you been there before?, but would always think country road racing to be fun, more risk :D
Title: Re: Road racing?
Post by: Horney on 04 May 2010, 22:41
Thruxton don't do days when you can run your own car which is a bummer. I take mine to Combe mostly, also done Silverstone and have plans to do Brands Hatch some time.

You do get closed section road rallys but you need a proper rally car that passes FIA regs etc.

Nick
Title: Re: Road racing?
Post by: emery1990 on 04 May 2010, 22:45
Yer that does suck, thought they didn't do it.

Ill check out combe then.

thanks Nick
Title: Re: Road racing?
Post by: Horney on 04 May 2010, 23:06
Combe are running a VAG only at the end of July in association with VW Driver Magazine. It's pretty expensive for a Combe trackday as it's on a saturday but it has the advantage of being able to do just one session for £30 (I think) and see if you like it.

Nick
Title: Re: Road racing?
Post by: Hurdy on 04 May 2010, 23:13
Nurburgring....but it is a long way :laugh:
Title: Re: Road racing?
Post by: Stu.750 on 04 May 2010, 23:54
Erm nightime navigation rallyies ,OS service maps , B roads and total darkness ,its not about speed but arriving on time an planning the best route , BUT if youget lost you might have to make up time  :evil:
Title: Re: Road racing?
Post by: Horney on 05 May 2010, 08:59
Erm nightime navigation rallyies ,OS service maps , B roads and total darkness ,its not about speed but arriving on time an planning the best route , BUT if youget lost you might have to make up time  :evil:

Yeah that's what I meant by 12 car.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12-car_rally

Nick
Title: Re: Road racing?
Post by: emery1990 on 05 May 2010, 15:46
Oh right maybe ill give the £30 session a go.  12 car doesnt sound good at all lol max speed of 30mph!.

Im planning to go to ring one day, once my mate has got something a bit faster than a 1.1!
Title: Re: Road racing?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 05 May 2010, 15:53
Oh right maybe ill give the £30 session a go.  12 car doesnt sound good at all lol max speed of 30mph!.

I think you're missing the point of a 12 car scatter......  :wink:
Title: Re: Road racing?
Post by: emery1990 on 05 May 2010, 17:24
I must be lol    :laugh:
Title: Re: Road racing?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 05 May 2010, 19:00
You need to read up a touch more.

There's no maximum speed of 30mph.

Your average speed must not exceed 30mph, IIRC.

BIG difference and I don't think you'd even come close to bothering the limit you are seeing.
Title: Re: Road racing?
Post by: emery1990 on 05 May 2010, 22:14
Yer true, on my a3's dis the average speed NEVER read above 30mph,

Ill lookin into it some more, that wiki page is only a paragraph long!.
Title: Re: Road racing?
Post by: DOA on 06 May 2010, 07:07
Used to go watch a classic car night rally in the lake district. 30MPH average is bloody quick for any car over Wrynose pass and the surrounding area lol! Other than that, get out to the Isle of man where there are no speed limits outside of the towns (though that doesnt mean you ca drive like an idiot!) or Ireland where they still close public roads for rallies/tests.
Title: Re: Road racing?
Post by: xxChrisxx on 11 May 2010, 13:59
An average 12 car is usually 60 miles in 2 hours.

So your average is 30mph, however that includes that time sat at control (you can arrive early if it's not a regularity, if it is you have to keep to bang on 30, no more no less) and does not account for you getting lost. Which if you have coded routecards you will do. Making up time is the key.

The worse you are the faster you have to end up going. 12 car is all about the navigator, it's bloody good fun though. After getting lost and making up time along whites at 80ish a sensible speed is fantastic.

Night rallies are slighty different, they are more driver oriented, they have sections that are fully competeritve (so a couple of laps round a route on an airfield), competition sections along roads.
Title: Re: Road racing?
Post by: Neo Badness on 15 May 2010, 00:02
There's a VAG only time attack on June 6th at Kames EACC.

Probs a bit out of the way for you.

Can't wait.

3 laps best, overall time wins.

Ordered my new helmet yesterday :cool:

Knockhill Speed sunday £50.00 All you need is MOT and scrutineers to check your car isn't going to kill you and more importantly drop oil all over their nice clean track.

Trackdays are cheaper than speeding fines Insurance hikes as result of convictions. Plus there are ambulances there if the worst happens.

Title: Re: Road racing?
Post by: antsgolf on 31 May 2010, 18:15
There is such thing called road rallying, in england they use timing called jogularity which is all about averaging 30m.p.h which is all down to the navigator. In wales we us regularity and standard timing which is a lot more competitive. We use all sorts of roads from gravel, tarmac and tracks. I would advise you to come give it a go!! Iv been at it for 6 years now. Most rallys now have 90 cars starting, they have different classes Novice,semi experts,experts and masters. Some cars are standard and some cars have £20,000 to £30,000 worth of modifying on them. golfmk2s seem to be getting popular on the road rallying scene. Its ar geat buzz doing it. You dont have to have a cage but is advised. If you would like any info e mail me at ants306@hotmail.com
Title: Re: Road racing?
Post by: danny_p on 24 June 2010, 01:05
as said averaging 30 MPH sounds easy...........   in wales it's not  esp when you discover the striped of grass in the middel of the road is higher than the car your in........

then for the next 30 mins all you can hear a pair of turbos screaming  and pritty much all you can smell is burning brakes, clutch and carbon bonnet.  all to make an average speed ( for the correct route of 30 mph)
Title: Re: Road racing?
Post by: smokey*sean on 04 July 2010, 10:48
 :laugh: i bet the fella never uses his brakes  .. been there thats how u learn car control small engine big balls!!!
Title: Re: Road racing?
Post by: danny_p on 10 July 2010, 01:23
well i'm playing with a saxo ATM.

it has 63 rageing ponies ATF,    and it's currently wearing remoulds ( tarmac rallye one tho )  actualy getting quite quick with it point to point. amazing how much quicker it makes you when you decide to jump in somethign with 200 ponies and brakes that work.   problem is when go have a play with somethign with proper big power balls still dissapear :(      but think at somepoint i may have to get a black mans wang and bolt a jap 6 banger to it
Title: Re: Road racing?
Post by: Edwin on 28 July 2010, 17:00
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_rally (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_rally)

Have a read  :smiley:

Great fun, a good navigator is the key!
Title: Re: Road racing?
Post by: LazyLunatic on 29 July 2010, 18:33
12 car rally ftw. a few of mates do it down here and its mental. 30mph my ass, this is night time, foot to the floor, hold on, sh!t pants stuff!

never entered myself as my car isnt suitable really. although been for a few night drives in the lanes :evil:
Title: Re: Road racing?
Post by: Neo Badness on 30 July 2010, 14:42
12 car rally ftw. a few of mates do it down here and its mental. 30mph my ass, this is night time, foot to the floor, hold on, sh!t pants stuff!

never entered myself as my car isnt suitable really. although been for a few night drives in the lanes :evil:

I believe they were refering to an "average speed" of 30mph. That is harder to achieve, obviously roads dependent.