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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Golf mk4 TDI => Topic started by: Phil.O on 04 May 2010, 10:10

Title: Clutch and DM Flywheel for 130
Post by: Phil.O on 04 May 2010, 10:10
has anyone changed these themselves?

how big a job is it and how hard/easy?

wanna get my 130 remapped but as it's just gone through 100k i'm guessing a new clutch is a given and flywheel could do with being replaced too......


the fun really is about to begin!!!
Title: Re: Clutch and DM Flywheel for 130
Post by: alex160 on 06 May 2010, 22:16
Havnt done one myself, but its a expensive job. You need to budget around £600-800 for the job/parts. I phoned up vw today and a dmf is £480 TRADE price, retail is £590!!!!  Then clutch kit on top of that.  :sick:
Title: Re: Clutch and DM Flywheel for 130
Post by: Jay on 07 May 2010, 07:41
Cambelt at a garage round the corner worked out at 2.5 hours labour (£125) + Parts £120ish?

I was quoted over £500 at another place that claims to be cheap, when asked if they could match the other garage they didn't respond.
Title: Re: Clutch and DM Flywheel for 130
Post by: Tucker82 on 10 May 2010, 20:46
I got a mate who did mine and my pals 130, with Sachs OE clutch & flywheel. £500 all in fitted. Based in Dartford if anybody interested. I had mine mapped after and its spot on...
Title: Re: Clutch and DM Flywheel for 130
Post by: golfmk4owner on 12 May 2010, 09:48
I got a mate who did mine and my pals 130, with Sachs OE clutch & flywheel. £500 all in fitted. Based in Dartford if anybody interested. I had mine mapped after and its spot on...
I've seen this set on Euro Car parts, do you know if the specs allow for any more torque than the OEM clutch and DMF? I mean is there any advantage or disadvantage of using the sach OE over the VW OEM?
Title: Re: Clutch and DM Flywheel for 130
Post by: Tucker82 on 12 May 2010, 20:25
I got a mate who did mine and my pals 130, with Sachs OE clutch & flywheel. £500 all in fitted. Based in Dartford if anybody interested. I had mine mapped after and its spot on...
I've seen this set on Euro Car parts, do you know if the specs allow for any more torque than the OEM clutch and DMF? I mean is there any advantage or disadvantage of using the sach OE over the VW OEM?
TBH im not really sure if the specs allow for large power increases. I've read on here that if your clutch is on the way out a remap will be sure to kill it off A new clutch and DMF will be okay with a map but Im no expert...

I had mine mapped after and it drives perfectly. Plenty of power through the rev range rather than running out of puff early low down, so I think it would only be the low end torque that would be the largest strain. Mine doesn't slip etc.
Title: Re: Clutch and DM Flywheel for 130
Post by: asif on 13 May 2010, 09:24
Sachs set-up is deffo best if your gonna go for big torque i.e. stage 2 map as it can cope better with the torque.
Also heard once you have this installed you won't have to worry about it again as it should outlast the car.

£500 all in sounds damn cheap though, is that price right?
Title: Re: Clutch and DM Flywheel for 130
Post by: Tucker82 on 13 May 2010, 19:14
Sachs set-up is deffo best if your gonna go for big torque i.e. stage 2 map as it can cope better with the torque.
Also heard once you have this installed you won't have to worry about it again as it should outlast the car.

£500 all in sounds damn cheap though, is that price right?

Honest to god, yes! I looked about for ages and couldn't get the sachs kit for what he can get it for so yeah, £500 all in is a bargain IMO. My local garage wanted 1k and VW wanted £500 +vat just for the DMF!!

If anybody is interested, pm me and i'll pass his number on.
Title: Re: Clutch and DM Flywheel for 130
Post by: Rhyso on 13 May 2010, 21:02
So you got an OEM Sachs clutch and DMF fitted for £500?  :shocked: :shocked:

Think some people are getting confused between an OEM kit and the Organic Friction and cover plates which can handle up to 400lbs ft torque

OEM Kit = approx 300lbs ft
Upgrade = approx 400lbs ft torque
Title: Re: Clutch and DM Flywheel for 130
Post by: Tucker82 on 13 May 2010, 21:55
So you got an OEM Sachs clutch and DMF fitted for £500?  :shocked: :shocked:

Well Actually I paid less than that yeah  :smiley:  But he is a really good mate   :grin:
Title: Re: Clutch and DM Flywheel for 130
Post by: asif on 14 May 2010, 00:40
Just out of interest how much is the Sach's kit on it's own without labour?
I'm sure it's more then £500 isn't it?

Not saying your lying mate and not implying that at all but it just seems way to good to be true.
Well you've had it done and your happy with it so you got a damn good deal my friend.
Title: Re: Clutch and DM Flywheel for 130
Post by: Steve_PD on 14 May 2010, 13:32
OEM Sach clutch is around £125 and can get a pattern part DMF for £250 ish thats the prices I was giving by a garage
an upgraded Sach clutch is over well £600 now
Title: Re: Clutch and DM Flywheel for 130
Post by: nadlad on 14 May 2010, 16:23


80 quid brand new 3 piece sachs clutch exact same as vw one (unipart do it for 65.00)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SACHS-VW-AUDI-3-PIECE-CLUTCH-KIT-3000845701-/300426299605?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item45f2cd88d5
Title: Re: Clutch and DM Flywheel for 130
Post by: Purely VAG on 14 May 2010, 17:07
VW clutch = Sachs or SKF

I wish VW bummers would research so they can stop being annoying. "Ohhh is VW better than sachs", VW don't MAKE parts, they're made in batches for VAG with VAG stamps and most items are available via factors without the VAG stamp for a normal rate.

And before some snob says they make engines, im generally referring to consumables that a motor factors would stock.
Title: Re: Clutch and DM Flywheel for 130
Post by: Tucker82 on 14 May 2010, 20:51
Just out of interest how much is the Sach's kit on it's own without labour?
I'm sure it's more then £500 isn't it?

Not saying your lying mate and not implying that at all but it just seems way to good to be true.
Well you've had it done and your happy with it so you got a damn good deal my friend.

I looked around and could get the sachs kit for less than £500. My local motor factor would do it for £320 + vat and I tried a few more that were around the same sort of price. I was going to get the kit and pay him for the labour. Turns out he got a blinding price on the Kit and did the job for £470 all in for me. He has since done my mates 130PD with the same for £500, so yeah I was proper happy with the deal he did me but he has done all the work on my car!

A deal to be had if anyone wants his number... He's near Wilmington about 5 mins from Junction 3 (i think) on the M25
Title: Re: Clutch and DM Flywheel for 130
Post by: asif on 14 May 2010, 23:41
Is that a standard Sach's clutch or the uprated one?
Title: Re: Clutch and DM Flywheel for 130
Post by: alex160 on 15 May 2010, 13:34
I was told that if you buy a clutch kit off vw then there just crappy reconditioned units which have poor balancing issues. :S
Title: Re: Clutch and DM Flywheel for 130
Post by: Tucker82 on 15 May 2010, 21:16
Is that a standard Sach's clutch or the uprated one?

Its going to be the standard OE kit. The one that he removed was sachs but not sure if that is fitted from new or not. Mines done 93k now.
Title: Re: Clutch and DM Flywheel for 130
Post by: Rhyso on 16 May 2010, 10:31


80 quid brand new 3 piece sachs clutch exact same as vw one (unipart do it for 65.00)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SACHS-VW-AUDI-3-PIECE-CLUTCH-KIT-3000845701-/300426299605?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item45f2cd88d5


thats for a 5 speed TDI......and those pics make it look like its been to the moon and back  :shocked:
Title: Re: Clutch and DM Flywheel for 130
Post by: parker278 on 20 June 2010, 23:06
Out of interest, whats the average people actually pay for a uprated Sach clutch and DMF?

I will be in need of one some very soon, damn remap  :smiley:
Title: Re: Clutch and DM Flywheel for 130
Post by: Rhyso on 21 June 2010, 08:00
Out of interest, whats the average people actually pay for a uprated Sach clutch and DMF?

I will be in need of one some very soon, damn remap  :smiley:

The Sachs clutch is now around the £600 mark.  Add at least £250 for the DMF and then labour from £100 up depending on where you are
Title: Re: Clutch and DM Flywheel for 130
Post by: alex160 on 21 June 2010, 19:35
This is the one major downside to the tdi motor, repair costs for the clutch is just disgusting imo. :sick:
Title: Re: Clutch and DM Flywheel for 130
Post by: Steve_PD on 21 June 2010, 19:42
Out of interest, whats the average people actually pay for a uprated Sach clutch and DMF?

I will be in need of one some very soon, damn remap  :smiley:

The Sachs clutch is now around the £600 mark.  Add at least £250 for the DMF and then labour from £100 up depending on where you are

and the rest.....
Title: Re: Clutch and DM Flywheel for 130
Post by: Rhyso on 21 June 2010, 19:43
Out of interest, whats the average people actually pay for a uprated Sach clutch and DMF?

I will be in need of one some very soon, damn remap  :smiley:

The Sachs clutch is now around the £600 mark.  Add at least £250 for the DMF and then labour from £100 up depending on where you are

and the rest.....

I daren't ask then  :lipsrsealed: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: