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Title: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: Lewisf1988-DUB on 27 April 2010, 13:03
Hi guys, looking for a half decent cheap induction kit that will give me a bit of noise, also how do u go about de-oiling a filter as I have heard that an oiled one can screw up your maf.

Any help would be great :)
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: Waffs1984 on 27 April 2010, 14:12
Ebay CAI - £55. Filter comes un-oiled. I've had one fitted for nearly 2 years with no problems other than i need to replace the air filter as the original has gonne a bit crusty.
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: Lewisf1988-DUB on 27 April 2010, 15:26
Got a link mate, nd did the replacement filter cost? Also any noise heard from turbo spool and DV?
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: Mk1Macca on 27 April 2010, 15:34
Stick to smoothing the airbox and using a Pipercross panel filter.

What engine do you have?
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: T_J_G on 27 April 2010, 16:04
I had an eBay carbon universal jobby on for a few days. Was definitely loud.

Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: Waffs1984 on 27 April 2010, 16:22
Got a link mate, nd did the replacement filter cost? Also any noise heard from turbo spool and DV?

Sorry mate, can't link, Ebay banned at work  :angry:

Yeah loads of turbo spool and loud DV noise. Going to order a green cotton replacement filter, for one the right size it comes to about £70 - will be ordering mine next month probably.

Also it came with a fairly cheap rubber coupling hose to join the alloy pipe to the MAF which is fine, but i've just ordered a good quality silicone replacement today so it fits in with my blue hoses  :cool:
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: Evoss on 27 April 2010, 19:53
Best to spend a little extra on pipercross or K&N. They will last alot longer and be better for your car.
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: Dave_IOW on 27 April 2010, 22:37
Put some ICI Genclean in a bucket, cold, and dip filter in if it is oiled.
Also tricoethylene if you can source some.. (probably not though anymore, lethal stuff  :evil:)
Did it with my ebay special just to make sure..
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: barry-gti on 28 April 2010, 09:07
There's nothing at all wrong with the e-bay CAI's. i've had one for nearly a year I think. Only think is it's a bit dirty where it sits behind the bumper.
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: Waffs1984 on 28 April 2010, 09:40
There's nothing at all wrong with the e-bay CAI's. i've had one for nearly a year I think. Only think is it's a bit dirty where it sits behind the bumper.

+1 - They seem to get bad press for no apparent reason other than they came off eBay. Yeah the filter isn't a known brand but it does the job. I always planned on replacing the filter with a green cotton one after a while as barry-gti said above, they do tend to get dirty due to their location behind the bumper.

It's worth the £55 for the CAI kit purely for the alloy relocation pipe!
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: tg1 on 28 April 2010, 11:33
and the noise, mines been fine, think i paid 56 delivered for mine

and might as well cut the back of the passenger side vent while you're taking it apart - better air feed
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: Lewisf1988-DUB on 28 April 2010, 11:41
Stick to smoothing the airbox and using a Pipercross panel filter.

What engine do you have?

1.8 T agu
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: Lewisf1988-DUB on 28 April 2010, 11:47
Any1 got any links to the eBay ones they have wit alloy pipe? At work and can only breifly go on Internet

Cheers
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: tg1 on 28 April 2010, 12:21
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/COLD-AIR-INDUCTION-INTAKE-1-8T-GOLF-JETTA-GTI-OCTAVIA-/200461013960?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2eac6853c8
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: Lewisf1988-DUB on 28 April 2010, 12:31
Haha awsome, I see what u mean about the pipe. I take it the small filter is for oil breather, but what is the small pipe coming off of the main intake for?

Cheers guys :)
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: Waffs1984 on 28 April 2010, 12:54
The small pipe attaches to your SAI (secondary air intake) system via a length of supplied hose but is only applicable to AUM engine codes so you don't have to worry about this. The small breather filter is to be fitted here if you don't have the SAI system on your car (which you don't). To be honest it would be better to block it off altogether with a small bit of pipe and nut in the end or something.
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: Lewisf1988-DUB on 28 April 2010, 13:05
Cheers bud. I take it I can also attach a bit of flexi pipe to make it a forced induction or am I wrong?
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: Waffs1984 on 28 April 2010, 14:39
To the filter? Not really, it is what it is, relocates the filter down behind the bumper in cold air. As someone mentioned above, mod your lower passenger side black plastic grill in the bumper to allow air to flow direct to the filter. I replaced mine with Hofele grills which don't have the horizontal slats but have a round opening in exactly the right place  :wink:
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: Waffs1984 on 28 April 2010, 14:46
Also got some pics form when i fitted it. Please ignore the rubbish red connectors, its a bit of pot luck wheather you get red or blue, and tbh they're not the best quality but they have done the job for nearly 2 years! My shiny new blue hose connector arrived today so will be fitting that later this eve  :cool:

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Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: Dave_IOW on 28 April 2010, 21:56
I stuck mine on the end of the MAF  :lipsrsealed:
Did you have to move battery over slightly? Looks cramped down there on mine..
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: leeroy20vt on 28 April 2010, 22:20
another quick question on this on my agu there is somethink with wire goin to it on the airbox its self now i know its not the maf so any ideas what it is and were would it go if i fitted one of these kits

cheers
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: Dave_IOW on 28 April 2010, 22:26
Has been said before but cant remember, but basically whatever it is, it was mounted on the airbox to keep cool so best to be placed somewhere far away from the hot bits  :smiley:
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: richw911 on 28 April 2010, 22:32
another quick question on this on my agu there is somethink with wire goin to it on the airbox its self now i know its not the maf so any ideas what it is and were would it go if i fitted one of these kits

cheers

Ignition amp  :wink:
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: tg1 on 28 April 2010, 22:43
try and keep it away from the turbo, but i don't think  it matters too much where you place it
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: richw911 on 28 April 2010, 22:53
try and keep it away from the turbo, but i don't think  it matters too much where you place it

Cool and secure  :wink:
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: northeast_gti-t on 29 April 2010, 00:00
try and keep it away from the turbo, but i don't think  it matters too much where you place it

Cool and secure  :wink:
and also requires if possible the heatsink compound leaving on the rear of the unit or some adding as this removes excess heat from the module  :wink:
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: Waffs1984 on 29 April 2010, 09:52
I stuck mine on the end of the MAF  :lipsrsealed:
Did you have to move battery over slightly? Looks cramped down there on mine..

Some people have had to lose the battery cover and just have the battery in its little jacket thingy but i was adamant i wanted to keep the battery cover so i just moved the battery over a tiny bit and messed with it till it fit! You are correct though, it is a bit tight down there!
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: barry-gti on 29 April 2010, 18:09
i haven't moved my battery over at all.

and before people say you get heat soak because its alloy blah blah blah you dont!  :wink:
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: Dave_IOW on 29 April 2010, 20:33
Fitted mine today, snapped off removed my original air funnel thing and squeezed this one in. Alot louder on turbo spool up  :evil:
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: leeroy20vt on 29 April 2010, 20:39
Fitted mine today, snapped off removed my original air funnel thing and squeezed this one in. Alot louder on turbo spool up  :evil:

and were did u put ur thingy thats in the air box lol any pics ?
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: dub-mike on 29 April 2010, 20:48
I'm been tempted to drop my piper x and dsg setup for one of these but not sure what to do  :undecided:
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: Dave_IOW on 29 April 2010, 20:50
and were did u put ur thingy thats in the air box lol any pics ?

Zipped tied it around the alloy pipe with conductor touching pipe, to be honest, before it was hanging down, swinging in the breeze  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: jamie16v on 29 April 2010, 21:29
best thing to do with it is to make up an aluminium heat sink and mount it somewhere securely.
i have aslso considered dropping my piper x panel filter and swap for a cheapo ebay filter.. not sure if it would be the wrong thing to do though.. :undecided:
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: Dave_IOW on 29 April 2010, 21:34
best thing to do with it is to make up an aluminium heat sink and mount it somewhere securely.
i have aslso considered dropping my piper x panel filter and swap for a cheapo ebay filter.. not sure if it would be the wrong thing to do though.. :undecided:

If you like sound of engines, its definately the right thing to do, sounds amazing the turbo spooling up so loud.
Cone filters make impressive grunt too.
If you really like the noise, remove sound deading from bonnet too  :lipsrsealed:

(btw jealous of your FMIC)
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: Waffs1984 on 30 April 2010, 09:04
i haven't moved my battery over at all.

and before people say you get heat soak because its alloy blah blah blah you dont!  :wink:

+1 Barry, makes me laugh when people pay £200 for a Carbonio, just becasue its carbon fibre doesn't warrant the price, plus it comes with a "no brand" special filter (like the eBay version).
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: leeroy20vt on 30 April 2010, 10:22
just ordered one if i dont like it havent lost a great deal  :smiley:
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: Waffs1984 on 30 April 2010, 11:42
just ordered one if i dont like it havent lost a great deal  :smiley:

Exactly mate, worth a try and you can always sell it on if you don't like it  :smiley:

Like i said its been fine for 2 years on my car but its only real shortcoming is the cheapo rubber connector and SAI pipe they supply - something you can always upgrade for a little extra  :smiley:

As for me wanting to replace my filter i'm sure whatever filter you have fitted down there ain't gonna last forever given British winters (and summers for that matter!!)
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: sabri55 on 15 January 2011, 20:13
I fitted one of these to mine today (AUM). How did you guys fit the silver adapter to the secondary injection pipe? I couldnt get it to fit onto the pipe. It looks a tad too small.
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: Dave_IOW on 15 January 2011, 20:40
Holy thread revival, but atleast you have searched :afro:

Does it not connect to the blue silicone hose they sent with CAI?
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: sabri55 on 15 January 2011, 21:29
It does but i couldnt get the other end onto the secondary air pipe? Just wondering how you guys did it.
Title: Re: Cheap loud induction kit? How to de-oil filter?
Post by: andc1 on 16 January 2011, 09:01
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