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Title: Bad News
Post by: pom on 14 April 2010, 15:03
Dealer just called me to say my april build slot has been moved to the end of september as they are having problems sourcing enough DSG boxes  :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Cancelled the order.

The Audi dealer has an A3 S-Line 170 S-tronic waiting on the boat and will be mine in 2 weeks.

So its goodbye golf and hello Audi.

I thought the germans were good at the manufacturing stuff, perhaps they took on the ex-british leyland staff without anyone knowing  :evil:

Pom
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: Steve30 on 14 April 2010, 15:33
Dealer just called me to say my april build slot has been moved to the end of september as they are having problems sourcing enough DSG boxes  :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Cancelled the order.

The Audi dealer has an A3 S-Line 170 S-tronic waiting on the boat and will be mine in 2 weeks.

So its goodbye golf and hello Audi.

I thought the germans were good at the manufacturing stuff, perhaps they took on the ex-british leyland staff without anyone knowing  :evil:

Pom

I would be happy with the A3 170bhp its a very nice car , enjoy  :cool:
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: AlanD on 14 April 2010, 15:51
Crap news that :(

The Audis are nice (still a smelly derv but nevermind ;)  :evil: )

You can get some cracking deal on the A3 now as the new one is coming out end of this year / early next year. Chap who lives opposite me has just bought a new MY10 1.8T A3 and said Audi did him a shocking deal for it.
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: pom on 14 April 2010, 15:57
faster than the golf as well. 7.6 0-62 for the audi 8.1 for the golf. Also the golf is lighter.

Pom
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: AlanD on 14 April 2010, 15:59
That makes no sense, how can the Golf be lighter yet slower with the exact same engine . . . . (Im assuming your compareing this to the 170PD engined Golf)
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: VWKev on 14 April 2010, 16:00
faster than the golf as well. 7.6 0-62 for the audi 8.1 for the golf. Also the golf is lighter.

Pom

Faster than what golf ? not the GTI thats for sure.
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: pom on 14 April 2010, 16:11
comparing the 170 DSG golf against the 170 S-Tronic audi. No idea why the golf is slower.

But comparing the petrol models the golf gti is a heck of a lot slower at 6.9 compared to 5.6 for the A3 Quattro. In fairness though the A3 squeezes a lot more power from the engine.

Not feeling so bad about cancelling the order now.

Pom
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: am1w on 14 April 2010, 16:17
The A3 looks old and staid. It is well past its sell by date!
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: A7 UFO on 14 April 2010, 16:25
The A3 looks old and staid. It is well past its sell by date!
way to go to hit a guy whilst he's down
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: gizzywizzy on 14 April 2010, 16:27
The A3 looks old and staid. It is well past its sell by date!

Don't be nasty am1w you'll burst his little happiness bubble :wink:.  Audi A3 versus Golf GTI  :huh: Golf all the way.

Gizzy
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: bentornado on 14 April 2010, 16:31
its the S3 thats 5.5 to 62 yes it is faster than the GTI with the same engine just like the R is faster with the same engine
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: AlanD on 14 April 2010, 16:47
Don't be nasty am1w you'll burst his little happiness bubble :wink:.  Audi A3 versus Golf GTI  :huh: Golf all the way.

Gizzy

Yeah, same here. Altought having to wait EVEN longer I cant really blame him, lack of DSG boxes, what planet are VW on !? :shocked:

I still wouldnt have got a derv mind you :D
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: avalon on 14 April 2010, 16:59
Pom - you don't say what you were ordering - i'm assuming a GTi ???



Ava
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: Snoopy on 14 April 2010, 18:06
The A3 looks old and staid. It is well past its sell by date!
So its getting on abit but i still really like the front and all the niggles have probably been ironed out by now unlike the golf :evil:


its the S3 thats 5.5 to 62 yes it is faster than the GTI with the same engine just like the R is faster with the same engine
apart from there not the same engine. :tongue:
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: pom on 14 April 2010, 18:08
Pom - you don't say what you were ordering - i'm assuming a GTi ???

GT TDI 170 DSG.

Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: Steve30 on 14 April 2010, 18:08
Don't be nasty am1w you'll burst his little happiness bubble :wink:.  Audi A3 versus Golf GTI  :huh: Golf all the way.

Gizzy

Yeah, same here. Altought having to wait EVEN longer I cant really blame him, lack of DSG boxes, what planet are VW on !? :shocked:

I still wouldnt have got a derv mind you :D

Alan you got a clue mate!! Derv is the way forward!  :grin: i'm getting 50+mph with GTD and its a MK6 :cool:
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: AlanD on 15 April 2010, 10:25
Don't be nasty am1w you'll burst his little happiness bubble :wink:.  Audi A3 versus Golf GTI  :huh: Golf all the way.

Gizzy

Yeah, same here. Altought having to wait EVEN longer I cant really blame him, lack of DSG boxes, what planet are VW on !? :shocked:

I still wouldnt have got a derv mind you :D

Alan you got a clue mate!! Derv is the way forward!  :grin: i'm getting 50+mph with GTD and its a MK6 :cool:

hahaha ! I've heard it all before from the MK4 boys when I was in there. Nothing you say will change my mind :D
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: RickS on 15 April 2010, 10:42
comparing the 170 DSG golf against the 170 S-Tronic audi. No idea why the golf is slower.

But comparing the petrol models the golf gti is a heck of a lot slower at 6.9 compared to 5.6 for the A3 Quattro. In fairness though the A3 squeezes a lot more power from the engine.
Pom

Pom, with 4WD [Quattro] it's possible to get more power down on the tarmac without overworking the TCS or spinning the wheels; that's why the Golf R can handle 275PS, which is produced from the same 2.0TSI engine that is in the GTI with 210PS. It's also why the A3 Quattro can be given more horses.
 :wink:
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: Steve30 on 15 April 2010, 11:03
Don't be nasty am1w you'll burst his little happiness bubble :wink:.  Audi A3 versus Golf GTI  :huh: Golf all the way.

Gizzy

Alan my car will put yours to shame
your is an old banger now? Times have moved mate , come and have a go in my gtd? That will put your mind at rest!

Yeah, same here. Altought having to wait EVEN longer I cant really blame him, lack of DSG boxes, what planet are VW on !? :shocked:

I still wouldnt have got a derv mind you :D

Alan you got a clue mate!! Derv is the way forward!  :grin: i'm getting 50+mph with GTD and its a MK6 :cool:

hahaha ! I've heard it all before from the MK4 boys when I was in there. Nothing you say will change my mind :D
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: AlanD on 15 April 2010, 11:53
Your in London arent you?

All jokes and bantar aside id love to go in (obviusly not drive as I wont be insured) in a / your GTD. You could then see what a mapped MK5 can do aswell ;)

Should come down the Brands Hatch meet in July.
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: GtiJames on 15 April 2010, 12:55
comparing the 170 DSG golf against the 170 S-Tronic audi. No idea why the golf is slower.

But comparing the petrol models the golf gti is a heck of a lot slower at 6.9 compared to 5.6 for the A3 Quattro. In fairness though the A3 squeezes a lot more power from the engine.
Pom

Pom, with 4WD [Quattro] it's possible to get more power down on the tarmac without overworking the TCS or spinning the wheels; that's why the Golf R can handle 275PS, which is produced from the same 2.0TSI engine that is in the GTI with 210PS. It's also why the A3 Quattro can be given more horses.
 :wink:

golf r and rocco r have got the engine from the s3/ed30 (2.0tfsi byd) - very different from the 2.0tsi in the mk6 gti - comes with stronger internals and a bigger k04  turbo etc

nothing to do with been 4wd as the rocco r/ed30 are fwd and have got the same engine

of course you will get quicker 0-60 times with the quattro/haldex but once rolling (30-70) the FWD will be faster due to less transmission loss and extra weight associated with the AWD system   :nerd: 
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: AlanD on 15 April 2010, 13:03
A MK5 engine in a MK6   :shocked:
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: JJH on 15 April 2010, 13:32
Pom - you don't say what you were ordering - i'm assuming a GTi ???

GT TDI 170 DSG.



its not so surprising they couldnt deliver on time, they dont make one.
Its either a 140bhp GT or GTD.

I had a 170 A3 DSG and loved it, good choice..
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: GtiJames on 15 April 2010, 13:34
A MK5 engine in a MK6   :shocked:

old news alan

just vw cost cutting - as whats the point in developing a new engine when you have one already which works perfectly well on the s3/ed30 and can handle 350-400hp without problems

interestingly VWR grenaded two 2.0tsi engines in their mk6 gti race cars so now use the 2.0tfsi byd engine...

Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: AlanD on 15 April 2010, 13:45
A MK5 engine in a MK6   :shocked:
old news alan

Should have seen the sh!t storm it caused when this info first came out.
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: GtiJames on 15 April 2010, 14:07
A MK5 engine in a MK6   :shocked:
old news alan

Should have seen the sh!t storm it caused when this info first came out.

its just vw catering for the modern gti owner - middle class accountant types who buy the golf because it makes them feel less of a geek and to impress the neighbours but winces at having to put super unleaded in because they read somewhere in the Sunday times that it gave no peformance benefit on a Citroen Picasso...

hence they developed the 2.0tsi   
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: am1w on 15 April 2010, 14:08
Also, don't you think 4WD systems are a bit noisier?
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: AlanD on 15 April 2010, 14:10
for the modern gti owner - middle class accountant types who buy the golf because it makes them feel less of a geek and to impress the neighbours but winces at having to put super unleaded in because they read somewhere in the Sunday times that it gave no peformance benefit on a Citroen Picasso...

hence they developed the 2.0tsi  

LOL ! f**king brilliant ! :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: VWKev on 15 April 2010, 15:04
Hold on, did someone say the A3 is faster than the GTI ? I aint reading 3 pages again just to confirm.

If someone did say that then I'll get the GTD boys round to give your A3 a good hammering as we know who's top dog around here.
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: Steve30 on 15 April 2010, 17:11
Hold on, did someone say the A3 is faster than the GTI ? I aint reading 3 pages again just to confirm.

If someone did say that then I'll get the GTD boys round to give your A3 a good hammering as we know who's top dog around here.

That would be me then kev!!
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: ErikGTI on 15 April 2010, 17:31
My brother has the A3 and I parked it behind him...he even has NEARLY the same colour...besides the fact that I drive just a Golf I simply must admit that without hessitation the GTI looks far better....

When we came to the interior the GTI was miles ahead....okay I spent a few bob extra :lipsrsealed:)

And after its chiptuning next week even the S3 will be in trouble...so....I gues I made the right decision.... :cool:
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: am1w on 15 April 2010, 18:21
Erik: There is nothing like patting oneself on the back! :wink:
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: VWKev on 15 April 2010, 18:55
Hold on, did someone say the A3 is faster than the GTI ? I aint reading 3 pages again just to confirm.

If someone did say that then I'll get the GTD boys round to give your A3 a good hammering as we know who's top dog around here.

That would be me then kev!!

Ave it Steve, get tore into the numpty that said the A3 is faster, and if no-one actually said it, lets just pick someone at random  :grin:
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: ErikGTI on 15 April 2010, 19:03
Erik: There is nothing like patting oneself on the back! :wink:

....every morning in the mirror.....I say to myself.....you tiger...grab the day.....go and get them....I even programmed my Nokia with reassuring opening sentences to me......I guess my way of keeping the doctor away....(they are probably too afraid to handle me)  :wink:
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: am1w on 15 April 2010, 19:05
If someone did say that then I'll get the GTD boys round to give your A3 a good hammering as we know who's top dog around here.

Your bark is worse than your bite, you lovely pussycat.
Now Steve is another matter.
He will do both: I mean bark and bite! :laugh:
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: am1w on 15 April 2010, 19:10
Erik: There is nothing like patting oneself on the back! :wink:
....every morning in the mirror.....I say to myself.....you tiger...grab the day.....go and get them....I even programmed my Nokia with reassuring opening sentences to me......I guess my way of keeping the doctor away....(they are probably too afraid to handle me)  :wink:

This is really worrying tiger. :lipsrsealed:
Do you think it might be a bit too premature to re-map your car? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: Steve30 on 15 April 2010, 20:17
If someone did say that then I'll get the GTD boys round to give your A3 a good hammering as we know who's top dog around here.

Your bark is worse than your bite, you lovely pussycat.
Now Steve is another matter.
He will do both: I mean bark and bite! :laugh:

ha ha ha  : :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: am1w on 15 April 2010, 20:31
ha ha ha  : :laugh: :laugh:

Steve: Were you on the A40 Paddington overpass at around 4.45pm going into Central London on Tues/Wed this week?
Saw a beautiful white GTD with 18" Vancouvers in the traffic jam. Looked really fab.
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: Steve30 on 15 April 2010, 21:15
ha ha ha  : :laugh: :laugh:

Steve: Were you on the A40 Paddington overpass at around 4.45pm going into Central London on Tues/Wed this week?
Saw a beautiful white GTD with 18" Vancouvers in the traffic jam. Looked really fab.

no not me mate!! My car is to rare ? Your sure it was a gtd?
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: am1w on 15 April 2010, 21:29
no not me mate!! My car is to rare ? Your sure it was a gtd?

100% it was a GTD. The first 5 door one I have seen. You have a twin!
Chrome grill bars, 18" Vancouvers, 5 doors, soo clean, '10' plate. Loverly. :smiley:
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: Steve30 on 15 April 2010, 21:40
no not me mate!! My car is to rare ? Your sure it was a gtd?

100% it was a GTD. The first 5 door one I have seen. You have a twin!
Chrome grill bars, 18" Vancouvers, 5 doors, soo clean, '10' plate. Loverly. :smiley:

To Many doors for me , I only do 3 doors, my mrs is always on my case to get 5 door , but it's not going to happen!! I've only ever had 1 five door gti,and the back doors always got dented through careless passengers! I also think 3 doors looks much nicer!
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: am1w on 15 April 2010, 21:43
To Many doors for me , I only do 3 doors, my mrs is always on my case to get 5 door , but it's not going to happen!! I've only ever had 1 five door gti,and the back doors always got dented through careless passengers! I also think 3 doors looks much nicer!

So near and yet so far!
Thought it was my lucky day!
Then, that night, I broke my middle right toe! :sick: - TRUE!
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: p3eps on 15 April 2010, 22:00
I also think 3 doors looks much nicer!

I totally agree... the 3 door looks nicer and more 'sporty'!  I only have rear passengers about 10 times a year, so for me the 3 door is definately the winner.  The only downer is the doors are MASSIVE and a bit tricky sometimes when you're in a small space!!
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: am1w on 15 April 2010, 22:11
... the 3 door looks nicer and more 'sporty'!  10 ....The only downer is the doors are MASSIVE and a bit tricky sometimes when you're in a small space!!

I like the look of the 5 door more as it looks more grown-up and is much more practical. But that's my opinion.
The 'MASSIVE' doors on the 3 door would probably tend to scrape the pavement if you open them too wide.
I have had a mixture of 3 and 5 door hatches. I must admit I prefer a 5 door overall for myself.
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: gizzywizzy on 15 April 2010, 23:01
... the 3 door looks nicer and more 'sporty'!  10 ....The only downer is the doors are MASSIVE and a bit tricky sometimes when you're in a small space!!

I like the look of the 5 door more as it looks more grown-up and is much more practical. But that's my opinion.
The 'MASSIVE' doors on the 3 door would probably tend to scrape the pavement if you open them too wide.
I have had a mixture of 3 and 5 door hatches. I must admit I prefer a 5 door overall for myself.


+1

Gizzy
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: bobbarley on 15 April 2010, 23:05
having problems sourcing enough DSG boxes 

Just change the order to a manual box?
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: Jimble on 16 April 2010, 00:33
Don't hate me as i currently have a 3 door (until tomorrow), but for some reason the mk6 looks "stubby" with 3 doors imo.
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: Steve30 on 16 April 2010, 08:09
... the 3 door looks nicer and more 'sporty'!  10 ....The only downer is the doors are MASSIVE and a bit tricky sometimes when you're in a small space!!

I like the look of the 5 door more as it looks more grown-up and is much more practical. But that's my opinion.
The 'MASSIVE' doors on the 3 door would probably tend to scrape the pavement if you open them too wide.
I have had a mixture of 3 and 5 door hatches. I must admit I prefer a 5 door overall for myself.

You in a relationship with am1w? You just agree with him all the time!


+1

Gizzy
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: am1w on 16 April 2010, 11:03
I like the look of the 5 door more as it looks more grown-up and is much more practical. But that's my opinion.
The 'MASSIVE' doors on the 3 door would probably tend to scrape the pavement if you open them too wide.I have had a mixture of 3 and 5 door hatches. I must admit I prefer a 5 door overall for myself.
You in a relationship with am1w? You just agree with him all the time!
+1
Gizzy

Gizzy and am1w (that's me) are intellectually and spiritually in tune with each other.  Also, distance makes the heart grow fonder. :smiley:
Anything wrong with that you jealous minx? :grin:

PS: Stop using that iPhone you 'high tech' Hannah, and get your posts sorted!
     Anyway, you've got Kev and I've got Gizzy (and Jimble hopefully). :grin:
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: am1w on 16 April 2010, 11:11
Don't hate me as i currently have a 3 door (until tomorrow), but for some reason the mk6 looks "stubby" with 3 doors imo.

+1
Now Steve will deduce that you too are having a relationship with me! :grin:
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: Steve30 on 16 April 2010, 11:28
Don't hate me as i currently have a 3 door (until tomorrow), but for some reason the mk6 looks "stubby" with 3 doors imo.

+1
Now Steve will deduce that you too are having a relationship with me! :grin:

You & Gizzy would make a fine couple enjoy :grin:
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: am1w on 16 April 2010, 11:32
Don't hate me as i currently have a 3 door (until tomorrow), but for some reason the mk6 looks "stubby" with 3 doors imo.
+1
Now Steve will deduce that you too are having a relationship with me! :grin:
You & Gizzy would make a fine couple enjoy :grin:

Thank you mah deah!
Ditto for you and Kev. Enjoy! :grin:
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: denyason on 18 April 2010, 04:12

The Audi dealer has an A3 S-Line 170 S-tronic waiting on the boat and will be mine in 2 weeks.


that says it all...    'supply and demand mate'.  no one wants an a3 especially with a new version out asap.  that dealer couldnt wait to sell it to you.  that a3 has been out a while now...  aint there any stock gti's?  i got mine in 2 wks no fuss.  dsg aint no biggy.
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: am1w on 18 April 2010, 10:24
that says it all...    'supply and demand mate'.  no one wants an a3 especially with a new version out asap.  that dealer couldnt wait to sell it to you.  that a3 has been out a while now...  aint there any stock gti's?  i got mine in 2 wks no fuss.  dsg aint no biggy.

A3 is a seven year old model and looks it. The Sportback version is a complete travisty. They looked old 4-5 years ago when compared to the Mk 5 Golf.
Generally, Audi styling, apart from the R8, S5 and the TT, sucks. And that is why they have those enormous and ugly gaping mouths! Fit for purpose, I say! :evil:
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: gizzywizzy on 19 April 2010, 13:54
I like the look of the 5 door more as it looks more grown-up and is much more practical. But that's my opinion.
The 'MASSIVE' doors on the 3 door would probably tend to scrape the pavement if you open them too wide.I have had a mixture of 3 and 5 door hatches. I must admit I prefer a 5 door overall for myself.
You in a relationship with am1w? You just agree with him all the time!
+1
Gizzy

Gizzy and am1w (that's me) are intellectually and spiritually in tune with each other.  Also, distance makes the heart grow fonder. :smiley:
Anything wrong with that you jealous minx? :grin:

PS: Stop using that iPhone you 'high tech' Hannah, and get your posts sorted!
     Anyway, you've got Kev and I've got Gizzy (and Jimble hopefully). :grin:


 :kiss:
Gizzy
Title: Re: Bad News
Post by: am1w on 19 April 2010, 13:58
I like the look of the 5 door more as it looks more grown-up and is much more practical. But that's my opinion.
The 'MASSIVE' doors on the 3 door would probably tend to scrape the pavement if you open them too wide.I have had a mixture of 3 and 5 door hatches. I must admit I prefer a 5 door overall for myself.
You in a relationship with am1w? You just agree with him all the time!
+1
Gizzy
Gizzy and am1w (that's me) are intellectually and spiritually in tune with each other.  Also, distance makes the heart grow fonder. :smiley:
Anything wrong with that you jealous minx? :grin:
PS: Stop using that iPhone you 'high tech' Hannah, and get your posts sorted!
     Anyway, you've got Kev and I've got Gizzy (and Jimble hopefully). :grin:
:kiss:
Gizzy

 :kiss: :kiss:
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