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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: Deefadog on 21 November 2004, 15:34
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My car will not start, when i turn the igniton over the starter motor just click really loudly and the electrics flash on and off with the clicking noise (the alarm resets and the mfa, so power to everything is being interupted), the car does not turn over at all! does this mean my starter motor has gone?
All connection to the starter are solid and the battery is good!
Any suggestions, really need it for work tommorrow!
Thanks
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It could be the starter motor solenoid draining power as i had this once.
tried rocking the car when its in gear?...used to work for me or some people just tap the starter with a hammer ;D
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Cheers Blue, just tried both, but it's still the same, should the starter make that loud clicking noise? And why does it interupt the power to everything else?
Any ideas
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try putting it in reverse and pushing it back a few yards. this should make the solenoid become unstuck.
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Ok mate i'll try it :)
If it does become unstuck, does this mean my starter is on it's way out? should i change it?
Thanks
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clean it and wd40 would be a cheap trick to try and get you by in the short term, but i suppose new unit would be long term option
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Cheers, i'll let you know if it works!
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Like Blue mk2 said if you tap the solenoid then it will start if someone turning the key, i changed a solenoid 2 weeks ago and realised that the problem was coming from one off the female connector from the alternator which recharges the battery, the cables had stretched and one of the cables had popped out of the connector, a sparky told me to change the connector as it is not charging the battery the correct way. so check them but i changed the solenoid for peace of mind and no complaints since then :)
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There are two cables from the alternator, one big red power lead which is live all the time and there is a small blue one, not sure what this does!
There are three cables on the starter, these seem fine, but i'll check them also
thanks
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Deefadog,
Trying turning the ingnition on, pop the bonnet and take the plug off the live (I think its the live one anyway, its the plug on the top towards the back) and then taking a piece of wire from the live on the battery to this plug, this hopefully will start her.
I used to have a dodgy starter motor which most the time used to start but every so ofter would not (usally after a day at work, very embarassing out in the works car park...!) I replaced it and all was sorted until last Friday when it started happening again, so I was out in the works car park tonite wiv my piece of wire.... >:(
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ROCed her and heard a clunk, I re-charged the battery and the starter turned over (no clicking) and she fired up :)
I'll take her for a long run in the morning to charge her up propally!!
thanks for your help guyz
take care
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OK, for the last three days she has been fine, batterywas 12.1V (a bit low should be 12.6V I have been told) so I charged her more and it seems to be fine now the battery that is.
Now here's what's happening - from cold I turn the ignition over and the starter is wuring away as it should but she will not start untill i hit the accelerator and she fires up fine!
When is she has warmed up fully I can stop and start her no problems without touching the accelerator ( fires up after 1 second)!!!
What could cause this?
1) want to rule out my starter motor first so, if the starter is wuring away does this mean it is fine? or could it still be making the right noises but failing to do it's job?
2) could the timing effect this start up?
3) could it be the warm up regulator?
4) anything else that could cause this
Thanks for any suggestions
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i assume when you mean "whurring away" that the engine is turning over but not firing?
check the cold start valve
also, check the ISV is buzzing when the iginition is switched on
wont be the warmup regulator
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"whurring away" that the engine is turning over but not firing? - YES
ISV is buzzing when the iginition is switched on - YES
Where is the check the cold start valve and how do i check it's working?
Thanks
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Clicky (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/gallery/displayimage.php?album=48&pos=0)
do you see the wee blue thing below the blue plug leads & dizzy, and to the right of the dipstick tube?
thats the cold start valve
it just squirts a bit of petrol into the cylinders before startup if the car isnt at a certain temp. bit like a 5th injector.
take it out and get someone to turn the ignition on and see does it squirt petrol out of it!
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Got, it, it has a blue connector on it yes?
Which bit do i undo? it has an allen key bolts on it about 3" in from the blue connector, is this the bit to undo?
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aye, thats it. try disconnecting the electrical connector one morning before you start it.
when they become knackered they have a steady leak and drip, so overnight your car is gradually flooding itself.
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I cleaned up the connector and it seems to have fixed my problem! at least so far.
How does the cold start valve come off? would not mind checking it anyways's!
Next job is new injectors :) the merc ones i have been told are the best and cheapest for brass ones!
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its all just screwed in, so just undo the fuel line on the end of the cold start then undo the cold start
as for the injectors, yes merc brass items are better as they dont corrode. but make sure you get the injector rings/seals from VAG
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I assume I should reconnect the fuel line when testing :)
Sorry to be dumb but is the cold start held on with 2 allen key bolts? or have i gone to along?
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cant remember exactly. i'd need to have a look tonight
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Cheers