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Title: 2 sec delay on hill start
Post by: VWKev on 29 March 2010, 12:13
Anyone tried it to see if it works ? Basically If you dont get the bite on a hill start the car wont roll back etc as the car will know you messed up and hold you there for 2 secs.

I'm scared to try it hehe, and does it work ?
Title: Re: 2 sec delay on hill start
Post by: matchboy on 29 March 2010, 12:28
not tried this kev but it all makes sense now: i always have to do a hill start on way to work every day and usually i will roll back ever so slightly - however i noticed i don't anymore and the car just pulls away - i just thought i was getting better at hill starts - obviously not!!!   :laugh:
Title: Re: 2 sec delay on hill start
Post by: avalon on 29 March 2010, 13:10
Surprised you haven't noticed it already.

Got the same on my Alfa and it's great for those junctions where maybe you'd heel/toe in the past rather than using the handbrake; good piece of technology.


Ava
Title: Re: 2 sec delay on hill start
Post by: p3eps on 29 March 2010, 13:19
I thought it was an optional extra unless you took DSG?

Title: Re: 2 sec delay on hill start
Post by: Saint Steve on 29 March 2010, 13:22
How on earth can a manual car hold you on a hill without you holding it on the clutch??

Oh yeah, its called a Handbrake. :laugh:

P3eps is right.
Title: Re: 2 sec delay on hill start
Post by: JJH on 29 March 2010, 13:30
hill hold only works if you press the pedal reasonably hard otherwise it will not activate.
I had it on my old A3 DSG and worked a treat.
Title: Re: 2 sec delay on hill start
Post by: avalon on 29 March 2010, 13:48
This is the 'technology' that Alfa use .... courtesy of Wikipedia:

In layman’s terms, the hill holder function works by using two sensors, in concert with the brake system on the vehicle. The first sensor measures the forward facing incline (nose higher than tail) of the vehicle, while the second is a disengaging mechanism.

When a driver stops their vehicle on an incline where the nose of the car is sufficiently higher than the rear of the car, the system is engaged when the driver's foot is depressing the brake pedal, and then the clutch pedal is fully depressed. Once set, the driver must keep the clutch pedal fully depressed, however, they may remove his or her foot from the brake pedal. To disengage the system and move the car forward, the driver selects first gear, feathers (applies) the gas pedal, and slowly releases the clutch pedal, which, at a point in its travel, releases the braking system allowing the car to proceed.

Title: Re: 2 sec delay on hill start
Post by: Steve30 on 29 March 2010, 14:18
Anyone tried it to see if it works ? Basically If you dont get the bite on a hill start the car wont roll back etc as the car will know you messed up and hold you there for 2 secs.

I'm scared to try it hehe, and does it work ?

Sounds like you need a DSG box Kev!! :cool:
Title: Re: 2 sec delay on hill start
Post by: VWKev on 29 March 2010, 14:38
How on earth can a manual car hold you on a hill without you holding it on the clutch??

Oh yeah, its called a Handbrake. :laugh:

P3eps is right.

It's a feature of the car.
Title: Re: 2 sec delay on hill start
Post by: VWKev on 29 March 2010, 14:39
I thought it was an optional extra unless you took DSG?



Not sure, I did read about it in the manual the other night and thought 'I aint tried that yet'
Title: Re: 2 sec delay on hill start
Post by: VWKev on 29 March 2010, 14:41
This is the 'technology' that Alfa use .... courtesy of Wikipedia:

In layman’s terms, the hill holder function works by using two sensors, in concert with the brake system on the vehicle. The first sensor measures the forward facing incline (nose higher than tail) of the vehicle, while the second is a disengaging mechanism.

When a driver stops their vehicle on an incline where the nose of the car is sufficiently higher than the rear of the car, the system is engaged when the driver's foot is depressing the brake pedal, and then the clutch pedal is fully depressed. Once set, the driver must keep the clutch pedal fully depressed, however, they may remove his or her foot from the brake pedal. To disengage the system and move the car forward, the driver selects first gear, feathers (applies) the gas pedal, and slowly releases the clutch pedal, which, at a point in its travel, releases the braking system allowing the car to proceed.



Excellent, thanks for that, thats a better explanation as to whats in the VW manual. I'm gonna have a play around with it, but will make sure no-ones behind me  :grin:
Title: Re: 2 sec delay on hill start
Post by: avalon on 29 March 2010, 14:42
^^^^ - works for me. The only marks on the car are on the front  :wink: :wink:



Ava
Title: Re: 2 sec delay on hill start
Post by: VWKev on 29 March 2010, 14:48
How on earth can a manual car hold you on a hill without you holding it on the clutch??

Oh yeah, its called a Handbrake. :laugh:

P3eps is right.

There is a thread for the sh!t you talk

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=147995.0
Title: Re: 2 sec delay on hill start
Post by: jv on 29 March 2010, 14:58
and there is the ban button for offensive language.
Title: Re: 2 sec delay on hill start
Post by: JC on 29 March 2010, 15:05
and there is the ban button for offensive language.

 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

and a donate button for the forum charity if you do  :wink:

http://www.justgiving.com/golfgtiforum_is_7

:afro:

Title: Re: 2 sec delay on hill start
Post by: VWKev on 29 March 2010, 15:10
and there is the ban button for offensive language.

I had better watch out then, Phil has already told me in a PM that you are his best mate and that I've to be careful as he gets your full backing, or some pish like that anyway.
Title: Re: 2 sec delay on hill start
Post by: p3eps on 29 March 2010, 15:11
Just looked on VW.co.uk

Quote: "Hill hold function (Standard on DSG, Optional on manual)"
Its a £90 optional extra - so I guess you'd know if you had it. :nerd:

Title: Re: 2 sec delay on hill start
Post by: VWKev on 29 March 2010, 15:12
Just looked on VW.co.uk

Quote: "Hill hold function (Standard on DSG, Optional on manual)"
Its a £90 optional extra - so I guess you'd know if you had it. :nerd:



Ahh, thank god I aint tried it yet then.  :grin:
Title: Re: 2 sec delay on hill start
Post by: VWKev on 29 March 2010, 15:13
When you go through the configurator, its not listed ?  :huh:
Title: Re: 2 sec delay on hill start
Post by: p3eps on 29 March 2010, 15:15
Ahh, thank god I aint tried it yet then.  :grin:

I'd hope that if you were going to try it out, you'd have the sense to do it on a road with nothing behind you - just incase  :laugh:

I did the configurator of the R... so maybe its a freebie on the GTI?!
Title: Re: 2 sec delay on hill start
Post by: VWKev on 29 March 2010, 15:17
Ahh, thank god I aint tried it yet then.  :grin:

I'd hope that if you were going to try it out, you'd have the sense to do it on a road with nothing behind you - just incase  :laugh:

I did the configurator of the R... so maybe its a freebie on the GTI?!

I see it now, I'm blind. I'm sure that wasnt there when I spec'd my car first time round. Maybe it was.  :grin:
Title: Re: 2 sec delay on hill start
Post by: MikeT on 29 March 2010, 16:20
Looking through the spec list, I just noticed "Two Tone Horn"... Oh reeaarry?

Title: Re: 2 sec delay on hill start
Post by: ErikGTI on 29 March 2010, 17:57
See Kev deep inside they all must love you... :smiley:.

Because imagine what would have happened if they advised you to try it out tonight and report back to us (preferably with some pics)..... :lipsrsealed:


BTW...the "manual gear box" issue would then have been settled on the spot  :evil:.................... :wink:
Title: Re: 2 sec delay on hill start
Post by: am1w on 29 March 2010, 18:05
Hill-hold is wasted in Holland! :evil:
Title: Re: 2 sec delay on hill start
Post by: ErikGTI on 29 March 2010, 18:08
.......I never stop on my way going somewhere..... :evil:
Title: Re: 2 sec delay on hill start
Post by: am1w on 29 March 2010, 18:09
.......I never stop on my way going somewhere..... :evil:

 :laugh: