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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: rench on 23 March 2010, 17:26
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fitted my hubcentric spacers earlyer and now theres a grinding noice comning from the rear, bolts to long? or what?
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How long were the bolts? Standard is 28mm, so +15mm for spacing, you should have bolts around 43mm, 45mm will be fine.
It can be easily seen when installing if the bolts were too long, other than that, check for anything obvious, it can only be related to wheel play/touching or bolts as theyre the only things you modified, Jack wheel up, see if it spins free and straight, any play, then check bolt size.
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How long were the bolts? Standard is 28mm, so +15mm for spacing, you should have bolts around 43mm, 45mm will be fine.
It can be easily seen when installing if the bolts were too long, other than that, check for anything obvious, it can only be related to wheel play/touching or bolts as theyre the only things you modified, Jack wheel up, see if it spins free and straight, any play, then check bolt size.
as said above + i got 2mm longer bolts than the actual size and no problem at all :smiley: how worn are your discs and pads :undecided:
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its not the discs as they only been on about 1month, just started doing it today once i put spacers on so i think maybe the bolts, will my standard bolts be to small? or can i use them till get right size botls if it its them macking the grinding noice?????
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well at least that rules the fault being from those then i can say no you won't be able to use your original bolts not with the spacers anyway :laugh: 45mm tbh is fine as they pass thru the threads of the hub by 2mm and iirc theres at least 5-8mm before the bolt would bottom out on anything
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ill have to whip them out tommorrow and measure them then, must be bolts seen as only done it since fitted the spacers.
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ill have to whip them out tommorrow and measure them then, must be bolts seen as only done it since fitted the spacers.
it is strange but could point to your bolts as its not unknown i should know when i did my fronts i required 41mm bolts so ordered 43mm as nearest size got them delivered and tbh assumed they were correct :laugh: erm epic fail fitted the alloy back on and wound a bolt in and wtf it bottomed out measured the bolt thread and it was 50mm :angry: :angry:
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found out what the probblem was, wasnt bolts grinding, the screw that holds the disc in place had snapped and made the wheel have play so everytime it moved round it was knocking. anyone had this problem using spacers as both sides had snapped?
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the screw should have nothing to do with it mate, the wheel bolts will hold the disc in place...
Got 15mm spacers on the rear of mine with no problems
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well tightend the wheel nuts up tight and when i jack it up the wheel moves side to side as you turn it like the bolts are loose?
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wouldnt be the wheel bearing :undecided: does it do it on both sides or just one?
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both and both screws that hold disc still had snapped from the play.
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When you fitted the spacers, Did you remove the centre hub bolt cap - They intervene with fitment of spacers = Remove them.
Also i still think your bolts are too long and not actually securing the wheel because theyre bottoming out.
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how much longer are the new bolts than your original ones?
did you put the spacer on the hub or on the wheel first?
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center hub bolt cap.. not that i know of and i put them of the hub fisrt then wheel on them, erm bolts seem to be 15mm longer so they should be fine.
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well tightend the wheel nuts up tight and when i jack it up the wheel moves side to side as you turn it like the bolts are loose?
that to me sounds as if your wheel is not fully bolting up and as jordy has said the bolts are bottoming out into the hub
**also you mentioned you had the discs and pads replaced you do it or a garage if it was a garage ask them why they fecked your screws holding the disc :evil:**
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center hub bolt cap.. not that i know of and i put them of the hub fisrt then wheel on them, erm bolts seem to be 15mm longer so they should be fine.
so 43mm length bolts then?
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ill measure them later and see if they are.
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center hub bolt cap.. not that i know of and i put them of the hub fisrt then wheel on them, erm bolts seem to be 15mm longer so they should be fine.
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It intervened with mine- Made wheels untrue with spacers so i had to remove them
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botls are 41mm and no didnt remove anything.
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Are the bolts the correct ones for your wheels then ? Obviously if i was there i could tell you straight away but have to go off what you say. And caps will most likely be sending it off if theyre still on, were with mine.
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both counter sunk yea and from what people told me they are not far of correct size so carnt be to long.
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get a pic up mate, will be easier than 2nd guessing it. Are they bolt through spacers or do they bolt to the hub first... I'm with Jordy, sounds like the bolts are bottoming out
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/20-Alloy-Wheel-Bolts-14mm-Taper-VW-Golf-Extended-45mm_W0QQitemZ270551672523QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Cars_Parts_Vehicles_Wheels_tyres_Trim_Nuts_ET?hash=item3efe22e6cb
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Porsche-spacers-15mm-cargraphic_W0QQitemZ170462189520QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item27b05697d0
thats same set up pritty much just 41mm bolts.
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Take the spacers off, put your original bolts back in and check if there is still play.
While the wheel is off though it's worth checking that the spacers fit snug and flush onto the back face of the wheel.
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first job in the morning before work then.
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Indeed, don't be driving to work with them like that.
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took them of now and fine with out so think its down to the bolts being to long as spacers fits on hub and wheel fine so going to dig hacksaw out and cut them down a few mm at work and give them ago and hopefully they will be sound then.
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so your bolts were 'bottoming out' :tongue: