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Title: Bluetooth dilema.
Post by: devito on 17 March 2010, 00:30
Does anyone know how and what software to download to my phone(sony ericson c902) to make it compatable with a factory fit bluetooth optionon on a RCD510...Thanks.
Title: Re: Bluetooth dilema.
Post by: Neil gti on 17 March 2010, 07:28
If your phone hasn't got remote sim it won't work with the factory kit,
When you turn the ignition on the rcd asks for your phone pin no, after that is entered it connects and copies your sim card into the RCD memory and imobilises your phone (cannot use your phone at all) all calls etc are done through the mfsw or the rcd, a bit of a pain but when your use to it the kit works very well.
Hope this helps  :wink:
Title: Re: Bluetooth dilema.
Post by: keelaw on 17 March 2010, 19:45

one case where there isn't an app for it!   :grin:


Title: Re: Bluetooth dilema.
Post by: SteveP on 17 March 2010, 21:12
Just replace the control module with a 729 version and all be good  :smiley:
Title: Re: Bluetooth dilema.
Post by: Neil gti on 17 March 2010, 21:21
 :wink:
Title: Re: Bluetooth dilema.
Post by: SteveP on 17 March 2010, 21:24
^^^ Get back in the other thread, there is a post waiting for you  :grin:
Title: Re: Bluetooth dilema.
Post by: Neil gti on 17 March 2010, 21:27
^^^ Get back in the other thread, there is a post waiting for you  :grin:

you got pm  :grin:
Title: Re: Bluetooth dilema.
Post by: devito on 17 March 2010, 23:00
If your phone hasn't got remote sim it won't work with the factory kit,
When you turn the ignition on the rcd asks for your phone pin no, after that is entered it connects and copies your sim card into the RCD memory and imobilises your phone (cannot use your phone at all) all calls etc are done through the mfsw or the rcd, a bit of a pain but when your use to it the kit works very well.
Hope this helps  :wink:
sorry mate but whats a remote sim?
Title: Re: Bluetooth dilema.
Post by: devito on 17 March 2010, 23:02
Just replace the control module with a 729 version and all be good  :smiley:
sorry mate but you lost me there :huh:
Title: Re: Bluetooth dilema.
Post by: Neil gti on 18 March 2010, 07:21
If your phone hasn't got remote sim it won't work with the factory kit,
When you turn the ignition on the rcd asks for your phone pin no, after that is entered it connects and copies your sim card into the RCD memory and imobilises your phone (cannot use your phone at all) all calls etc are done through the mfsw or the rcd, a bit of a pain but when your use to it the kit works very well.
Hope this helps  :wink:
sorry mate but whats a remote sim?

look through your phone and activate remote sim card, where something else can read your simcard via bluetooth,
My phone kit wouldn't work when i picked my car up and dealer said that my phone wasn't compatable with the kit  :angry:
i looked through my phone manual and saw that remote sim card mode in the phone had to be turned on, and just enter security pin no that you use when you turn the phone on, now works a treat
(i have got a Nokia N86 8Gb)   :wink:
Title: Re: Bluetooth dilema.
Post by: devito on 18 March 2010, 23:29
If your phone hasn't got remote sim it won't work with the factory kit,
When you turn the ignition on the rcd asks for your phone pin no, after that is entered it connects and copies your sim card into the RCD memory and imobilises your phone (cannot use your phone at all) all calls etc are done through the mfsw or the rcd, a bit of a pain but when your use to it the kit works very well.
Hope this helps  :wink:
sorry mate but whats a remote sim?

look through your phone and activate remote sim card, where something else can read your simcard via bluetooth,
My phone kit wouldn't work when i picked my car up and dealer said that my phone wasn't compatable with the kit  :angry:
i looked through my phone manual and saw that remote sim card mode in the phone had to be turned on, and just enter security pin no that you use when you turn the phone on, now works a treat
(i have got a Nokia N86 8Gb)   :wink:
Thanks Neil and thanks for your reply on my gearbox shudder thread aswell.
Title: Re: Bluetooth dilema.
Post by: ErikGTI on 21 March 2010, 09:27
Yesterday I bought the HTC touch a beautiful toy with rSAP in order to mate with my RNS510...BUT......

Can somebody explain to me ...if I make a detailed outlook contactperson (instead of a restricted 8-letter SIM contact) so the hole show...pics email kids company wife etc etc...does the car RNS take that off my phone.... despite not putting it on the Sim...is there a difference...

I am a bit new in this media wonderland....
Title: Re: Bluetooth dilema.
Post by: Neil gti on 21 March 2010, 09:44
Eric
the RNS only shows contacts that are copied to your simcard, on my phone you have to list them separate not like several no's in one name group if that makes sense,
it wont let me copy a group to sim card only phone memory which dosn't show up on the RNS,
I Have got the VW Phone prep don't know if fiscon etc is like this ?
Title: Re: Bluetooth dilema.
Post by: ErikGTI on 21 March 2010, 11:48
Hi Neil

I have RNS510 with a VW-premium car kit....The SIM methode is actually quite outdated being restricted to an 8 character name etc...

It seems a bit stupid that you are able to make in your phone a detailed contactperson with multiple phone nrs attached (home work mobile) and than AGAIN copy it to your SIM (with corrections to make it acceptable :angry:) in the end having every contact TWICE (one detailed and one in short) on your phone-screen in order to let the RNS get it from your sim only..... :sick:
Title: Re: Bluetooth dilema.
Post by: Neil gti on 21 March 2010, 11:57
Hi Neil

I have RNS510 with a VW-premium car kit....The SIM methode is actually quite outdated being restricted to an 8 character name etc...

It seems a bit stupid that you are able to make in your phone a detailed contactperson with multiple phone nrs attached (home work mobile) and than AGAIN copy it to your SIM (with corrections to make it acceptable :angry:) in the end having every contact TWICE (one detailed and one in short) on your phone-screen in order to let the RNS get it from your sim only..... :sick:

Yes thats what it is like on mine and if the contact no: is in the phone twice(sim and phone mem) the name of the caller dosn't show up  :angry:
Title: Re: Bluetooth dilema.
Post by: ErikGTI on 21 March 2010, 14:01
That is strange Niel since the RNS should not "see" the second (same) contact in your phone memory because so far we think that it only takes info of the SIM.
Have you tried to make only ONE contact in full detail and watch what happens when you synchronize the HTC with the RNS.. :undecided:.

This is actually quite a usefull experiment for all forum RNS owners...because what you are now saying is that nobody with an RNS can make use of the incredible usefull outlook features in the phone memory,  since they have to give the priority to the SIM... :huh:
Title: Re: Bluetooth dilema.
Post by: Neil gti on 21 March 2010, 15:37
What i mean't to say was that if i had joe bloggs home no: and mobile no: listed under joe bloggs as a 1 contact i cannot copy this to sim, it divides it into 2 contacts, so then i have to delete the 1 in the phone memory, or the contact name wont show up when joe bloggs rings when the phone isn't connected to car kit, :angry:
Title: Re: Bluetooth dilema.
Post by: ErikGTI on 21 March 2010, 19:08
Okay clear...

But now suppose you do not copy it to the SIM I wonder if the RNS takes the contacts off the phone memory with the help of bluetooth so forgetting the sim all together... :nerd:
Title: Re: Bluetooth dilema.
Post by: p3asa on 21 March 2010, 19:28
Neil, what Bluetooth have you got?
With the Fiscon if you have 2 numbers in your phone i.e. Joe has 12345 for home and 45678 for mobile, the fiscon will download 2 contacts for Joe.
Title: Re: Bluetooth dilema.
Post by: ErikGTI on 22 March 2010, 18:26
Hello PS than maybe you can answer my next question...

I think that if do not make use of the outdated SIM and put all the outlook-contacts in my phone memory the RNS510/VW Premium kit will store all the phone numbers involved per person as a clone in the nav system so e.g, you have the Stig with home, work and mobile stored in your HTC phone it will be transferred and stored as such under Stig......and synched every so often... :smiley:
Title: Re: Bluetooth dilema.
Post by: Neil gti on 22 March 2010, 18:51
Neil, what Bluetooth have you got?
With the Fiscon if you have 2 numbers in your phone i.e. Joe has 12345 for home and 45678 for mobile, the fiscon will download 2 contacts for Joe.

The only way i can get the Vw phone kit to show both numbers is to copy them to sim as stig home and stig mobile as 2 separate contacts  :angry:
Does the Fiscon copy and just use sim contacts, or connect to the phone and copy all the contacts phone mem and sim card ? and is your phone still active when connected,
Because the vw kit once your phone is connected it is disabled  :angry:
Title: Re: Bluetooth dilema.
Post by: p3asa on 22 March 2010, 20:37
It downloads the contacts from the phone not the SIM.
I think it does this every time but you don't notice it unless you have added a new contact since the last time it was paired with the Fiscon. So only if you have added a new contact do you see "downloading phonebook"

Once the phone is connected (literally seconds) you can still use the phone as normal. A couple of times I've been caught out with this and while parked phoned a number on my phone and then couldn't understand while the ringing tone was coming through the loudspeakers, DOH  :laugh:

Its probably just as well the phone can still be used as the Fiscon doesn't send the DTMF tones. So you can still send them via the phone.
Title: Re: Bluetooth dilema.
Post by: ErikGTI on 22 March 2010, 20:41
I think (but it is complicated since I only still am reading "RTFM" 183 pages RNS and 233 pages HTC phone)

the RNS510 and VW premiumkit (my kit) takes it straight from the SIM AND PHONE MEMORY....
after that.... the RNS510 disables the phone by putting it into a sleeping mode to save battery...normally that does not matter since ALL the adresses have been synced in the RNS510  :huh:

If I am right you should forget about SIM and use outlook on your PC make all the adresses....sync it with the sync prog with your phone...(as I did a minute ago) ....and sync it with your car....(as I will do the 2nd of April).....and voila you have got the "Bourne Identity" mobile-scene.. :cool:



NOW DO NOT TELL ME THAT THERE IS NOBODY OUT THERE TO CONFIRM THIS.... :sad:  :evil:
Title: Re: Bluetooth dilema.
Post by: Neil gti on 22 March 2010, 22:26
I think i will have to have a play with my phone and contacts to see if that works Eric, Thanx

The fiscon sounds like a lot simpler system to me and one that i am more use too (normal bluetooth kits but with on screen displays)