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Title: Silicone sealant in place of gaskets
Post by: Andy Mc on 03 November 2004, 19:12
I'm currently having my inlet flowed for my mk2 vlaver and it seems that my mechanic has forgotton to send to the company carring out this work the gaskets to be matched off to the increased size of the ports.

The company doing this work has said that silicone sealant can be used instead, is this correct.....?? Can I get away with using this in place of the gaskets....??
Title: Re: Silicone sealant in place of gaskets
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 03 November 2004, 19:17
maybe but i wouldnt. get some light gasket sealant too :D
Title: Re: Silicone sealant in place of gaskets
Post by: Andy Mc on 03 November 2004, 19:35
Thats what I thought, hence why I raised this post. They're going to see if they can find another 16v inlet which should have the gaskets, if not, like you said, I'm not keen to use silicone and I doubt my mechanic will either.

It's taken them over 4 weeks to get this far.....!! after originally being only told a week, 2 at the most and I've been with out my car for over 5 weeks and am getting really pi$$ed off and to be quite honest, just want my car back. Can anybody suggest anyway to get around this without the gaskets. Also my mot runs out on the 15th, so u can understand my desperation.
Title: Re: Silicone sealant in place of gaskets
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 03 November 2004, 20:16
is the garage near where you live? just buy the gaskets yourself from vw and give them to the garage or post you should be able to get the parts next day if you get to the parts department before 11 i think if they havent got them in stock ??? ;)
Title: Re: Silicone sealant in place of gaskets
Post by: richandhazel on 03 November 2004, 20:37
I wouldn't recommend using sealant in place of gaskets. For a start it would have to be high temp stuff and I doubt it would stay in place very long even at that :-\
Title: Re: Silicone sealant in place of gaskets
Post by: Andy Mc on 03 November 2004, 20:38
The company doin the inlet are based in the midlands, I'm in Southampton, I want to avoid at all costs giving them any more work, I feel that if I was to buy the gaskets, send them away, this will only add more weeks on top of the 4 weeks so far. I'm annoyed that after having the inlet for over 4 weeks and reqular descisions with them being and told that only 10 more minutes worth of work was needed that now they've told me they haven't got the gaskets.

If my mechanic was to order them in, is it a simple enough job for him to match them off, and cut them to size....??
Title: Re: Silicone sealant in place of gaskets
Post by: richandhazel on 03 November 2004, 20:43
Another option if you're looking at trimming some anyway:-

You buy gasket making material and make your own. Its quite easy, keep the gasket material in the same place and lightly tap all round the edges with the ball of a ball pein hammer - it more or less cuts the material at the same time. Just make sure you get the right material as it will come in various thicknesses - inlet manifold gaskets are usually quite thin.
Title: Re: Silicone sealant in place of gaskets
Post by: Andy Mc on 03 November 2004, 20:51
Yeh good idea, I'll ave a word wiv my mechanic tomorrow and suggest that to him. He'll be glad to get shot of my motor taking up room in his workshop.....!!
Title: Re: Silicone sealant in place of gaskets
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 04 November 2004, 08:38
whats wrong with getting real ones from vw, about ?20 for both i think, if you order them today you get them tomorrow, first class post to garage tomorrow and they get there mon morning :D or tell them to get off their lazy arses and go buy some theirselves >:( this is why i do my own work, f**king monkeys
Title: Re: Silicone sealant in place of gaskets
Post by: ...joe on 04 November 2004, 18:06
^^^^couldn't agree more!
Title: Re: Silicone sealant in place of gaskets
Post by: Andy Mc on 04 November 2004, 18:29
Lazy arses I agree, they had my inlet 4 weeks before even attempting to do the work.......!! - and its still not done + I paid up front......!!

I had a word with my mechanic today and he said hes got some sort of gasket sealant that he uses and not to worry bout the gaskets themselves, he'll sort it when the bits finally get sent back to him - top man.....!! :D
Title: Re: Silicone sealant in place of gaskets
Post by: Len on 08 November 2004, 11:21
For inlet manifolds gasket sealer is o.k. They are all silicone based.
Only trouble is the stuff squeeses out into the port area! So it restricts air-flow. So unless you can attach the manifold and still wipe any exceess away it sorta defeats the object!

As said above get some gasket material, but ya have to be really good with a Stanley knife/sharp blade.
Title: Re: Silicone sealant in place of gaskets
Post by: richandhazel on 08 November 2004, 12:24
I assume if you buy the std gaskets they will still need trimming with the work you have had done? Best and easiest option has got to be to get one, sit it on the inlet manifold, stick the bolts in the bolt holes for location and then use the ball pein hammer trick on the inside edges of the ports. The edge of the manifold should cut the gasket or at the very least will mark it out for you. Next best option would be too use gasket material and sit it on the manifold, use the same trick to mark out the bolt holes, stick the bolts in for location and then use the ball pein hammer to mark/cut out the rest.
Last resort would be to just use sealant, maybe if he's using it conjunction with the old (trimmed) gasket that wouldn't be so bad :-\

But hey, thats just my opinion, so don't worry. I'm in no position to argue with your mechanic who does this stuff for a living ;)
Title: Re: Silicone sealant in place of gaskets
Post by: Andy Mc on 10 November 2004, 17:57
Cheers thanks for the advice.....!! I'm getting really frustrated now because the bits we're supposed to have been posted to my mechanic as a special delivery for Monday, today (Wednesday) this bits have still not arrived and are 'lost' in the post somewhere. The machinst does not have the tracking reference so I can't track it, I've had to log a complaint with Royal Mail to try and trace it (logged Monday lunchtime, still have not heard any thing back). I have now been 8 weeks without my car and atm, doesn't look like I'm gonna get it back on the road either.....!!!!! >:(
Title: Re: Silicone sealant in place of gaskets
Post by: ...joe on 10 November 2004, 19:30
gutted for you
Title: Re: Silicone sealant in place of gaskets
Post by: Andy Mc on 10 November 2004, 20:18
Tell me about it......!!

I'm starting to regret having this work done, although I won't be saying that once I finally get the parts and them all bolted on, if that ever happens.

I haven't got a clue what I'll do if they never turn up, altohugh I don't want to think that. I don't want to have to spend any more money replacing the missing parts nor do I want to pay ?50 a month insurance + ?20 tax for a car I'm not using.

The whole sistuation is really pi$$ing me off.....!! >:( >:(
Title: Re: Silicone sealant in place of gaskets
Post by: Andy Mc on 11 November 2004, 18:34
Managed to get hold of the tracking numbers today, god knows where they originally tried to deliver them but they we're waiting for me down my local sorting office so I popped over there at lunch time and picked them up.

They are now with my mechanic after I went and saw him straight aferwards. Should have my motor back by next week.....!!

 :) :D ;D ;)