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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: jdjd on 05 March 2010, 21:59
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I noticed this the other day and just now it was even worse.
Under full acceleration my car occasionally loses power at the top of 3rd gear and also when i change into 4th. It happened once the otherday and now again tonight but tonight it lost power for a more prolonged period. My car is fitted with revo stage 1 software on a switch. I never had a problem with this before the remap. Car has been run exclusively on vpower or Tesco 99
I was thinking it could be a couple of things induced by the remap.
1) Overboost for some reason or another.
2) Turbo overheating
3) Possibly some fuel management issue
4) Low fuel my fuel light was just about to come on. literally on the line between the black and red.
Any helpful feedback from any1 with revo or has encounted such a problem would be well nice as its got me worrying if its safe to run it
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PS car is otherwise completely standard
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Can't say I've had any problems like that. The only power loss I've experienced was when I put 95 RON in instead of 98...
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Can't say I've had any problems like that. The only power loss I've experienced was when I put 95 RON in instead of 98...
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Do you have access to VCDS to log the car to see what's happening?
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As a wild guess, stab in the dark as im no expert on these things it sounds like the turbo maybe stalling. Or the dump valve or one of the pipes is leaking and loosing boost (trying to fall off like the 1.8T ones do), Does the car sound the same at standstill if you rev it abit then take your foot off the throttle.
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yeah exactly the same. god knows what is causing it, the people carnt take it back till monday to investigate it so im stuck with the lump till monday. Its not everytime its happening most times it accelerates fine across the revrange just on the odd occasion it f**ks up
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Can you remove the REVO map and replace it with the exact map VW supplied with the car?
Then you can check if it's just a coincidence and get it fixed by VW.
If you can't then what's the point of the REVO map on cars in warranty?
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Isn't this what used to happen on some of the MK5's? And people used to change the diverter valve, to a 'forge' or something? Could be wrong but might be worth a google..
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^^^ There was a "miss fire" at high RPM on the late Mk5's which was caused the check engine light to come up on some cars, but this was due to a valve spring fault that was resolved by a VW TSB.
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Can you remove the REVO map and replace it with the exact map VW supplied with the car?
Then you can check if it's just a coincidence and get it fixed by VW.
If you can't then what's the point of the REVO map on cars in warranty?
It is possible with the SPS to switch it back to a stock mode, but the code is still resident in the ECU.
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Maybe unrelated but has anyone also noticed that from a cold start the remap does not seem to work 100%? some kind of limits when cold i take it?? :undecided:
cant say I have experienced any problems like you have though jd.
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I may have a similar problem,does it happen when your going some say 70mph then go to put your foot down and it does not want to accellerate ?,i`ve had this half a dozen times in 7 months but never a fault light,i took it in to get it checked and nothing came up. :undecided:
p.s my car is still standard
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No problems with mine :undecided: and not heard of any issues with Revo maps
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I just wonder how many more owners will start having problems with Revo re-mapping.
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I just wonder how many more owners will start having problems with Revo re-mapping.
The problem might not be Revo related ?
I'd get VW Assistance out to get some idea of the problem or the AA before i contacted the dealer :sad: just incase,
but not heard of any issues with it
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The problem might not be Revo related ?
I'd get VW Assistance out to get some idea of the problem or the AA before i contacted the dealer :sad: just incase,
but not heard of any issues with it
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Good thinking Batman! :smiley:
They usually are more open minded and knowledgeable.
In fact, when I had a problem with a constantly dead battery on my Type R GT, Honda kept testing it and found no fault. But the RAC man insisted that it was a faulty battery and his tests proved this. Honda's tests did not show any battery fault! Eventually Honda had to accept this and changed the battery! The car was only a year old at that time!
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:wink: :wink:
Worth a try in my book
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Your first port of call should be your revo dealer. They may have come across the issue before and know an easy fix, or there may have been a sw update issued by revo since you had it done. Some data logging needs to be done to determine if it's air, fuel or spark causing the mishap (or a combination of them) then further logging to determine which sensor, pipe, wire or whatever is the underlying problem.
Maybe unrelated but has anyone also noticed that from a cold start the remap does not seem to work 100%? some kind of limits when cold i take it?? :undecided:
From a cold start the ecu will be adding fuel anyway, but more importantly you shouldn't even be using your right foot enough to notice the remap until the temp display has been at 90 for a few minutes. Not warming up or cooling down the engine properly is a surefire way to destroy your turbo.. especially with a remapped car.
I do this sort of thing for a living so if anyone in the midlands area needs something checking over just give me a shout :afro:
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cheers for the info topher!i will try to take it easy on those cold mornings.
... ahh what the hell, its not my car :laugh: :laugh:
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cheers for the info topher!i will try to take it easy on those cold mornings.
... ahh what the hell, its not my car :laugh: :laugh:
People like you keep me in business :grin: To be honest you'll probably never have any problems while you own the car. They are tough old motors. It's 5-6 years down the line the abuse shows through. Little turbos + high boost = exhaust housing cracks and leaky seals.
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cheers for the info topher!i will try to take it easy on those cold mornings.
... ahh what the hell, its not my car :laugh: :laugh:
People like you keep me in business :grin: To be honest you'll probably never have any problems while you own the car. They are tough old motors. It's 5-6 years down the line the abuse shows through. Little turbos + high boost = exhaust housing cracks and leaky seals.
:grin: :grin:
no worries pal... full throttle from cold is the way forward for me then. Helps the heaters warm up that little bit quicker also :evil:
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cheers for the info topher!i will try to take it easy on those cold mornings.
... ahh what the hell, its not my car :laugh: :laugh:
People like you keep me in business :grin: To be honest you'll probably never have any problems while you own the car. They are tough old motors. It's 5-6 years down the line the abuse shows through. Little turbos + high boost = exhaust housing cracks and leaky seals.
:grin: :grin:
no worries pal... full throttle from cold is the way forward for me then. Helps the heaters warm up that little bit quicker also :evil:
Your a bad man Gilly :grin: :grin:
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cheers for the info topher!i will try to take it easy on those cold mornings.
... ahh what the hell, its not my car :laugh: :laugh:
People like you keep me in business :grin: To be honest you'll probably never have any problems while you own the car. They are tough old motors. It's 5-6 years down the line the abuse shows through. Little turbos + high boost = exhaust housing cracks and leaky seals.
:grin: :grin:
no worries pal... full throttle from cold is the way forward for me then. Helps the heaters warm up that little bit quicker also :evil:
i'm surprised the guy who mapped your car didn't tell you that.. people get "the lecture" when they come to me :laugh:
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as per signature quote..... "Drive it like you stole it" :evil:
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Wouldnt that involve crashing it or being arrested :laugh:
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Wouldnt that involve crashing it or being arrested :laugh:
Gilly dosn't crash other people crash into him :laugh:
Isn't that right Gilly (http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/NeilGti/drinking.gif)
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Wouldnt that involve crashing it or being arrested :laugh:
Gilly dosn't crash other people crash into him :laugh:
Isn't that right Gilly (http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/NeilGti/drinking.gif)
:grin:... although im staying shtum on that front. Last week when I told you everything is finally going ok with the car i have to drive home on a flat!! :sad:
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11,500 miles on my revo with zero issues.
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11,500 miles on my revo with zero issues.
and many many others with remapped cars. 99.9% it's the car not the remap
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^^^ There was a "miss fire" at high RPM on the late Mk5's which was caused the check engine light to come up on some cars, but this was due to a valve spring fault that was resolved by a VW TSB.
Yes, it does sound very similar to that issue ... full thread here :-
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,9196.0.html
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... ahh what the hell, its not my car :laugh: :laugh:
:grin:... although im staying shtum on that front. Last week when I told you everything is finally going ok with the car i have to drive home on a flat!! :sad:
I did think you were mental driving home like you did but now i understand...
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Yeah about 70mph it cuts out, Taking it back 9am 2moro, So will let u know what problem is hopefully they find something :rolleyes:
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Yeah about 70mph it cuts out, Taking it back 9am 2moro, So will let u know what problem is hopefully they find something :rolleyes:
Mine has done something similar at about 70mph in 4th gear i went to accelerate and it just juddered as if i was in too high a gear untill i dipped the clutch and tried again,it is very intermittent and i never get a fault light come up,the dealer could not find anything wrong. Will be interesting to see what your dealer says.
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People like you keep me in business :grin: To be honest you'll probably never have any problems while you own the car. They are tough old motors. It's 5-6 years down the line the abuse shows through. Little turbos + high boost = exhaust housing cracks and leaky seals.
So are you saying that a remapped car is going to be needing a new turbo after 5 or 6 years? Because some of us keep our cars for more than six months and that sounds like a major issue to me.
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People like you keep me in business :grin: To be honest you'll probably never have any problems while you own the car. They are tough old motors. It's 5-6 years down the line the abuse shows through. Little turbos + high boost = exhaust housing cracks and leaky seals.
So are you saying that a remapped car is going to be needing a new turbo after 5 or 6 years? Because some of us keep our cars for more than six months and that sounds like a major issue to me.
Not at all, only the ones that aren't treated properly. Regular oil servicing (that means t&d schedule .. if you're on longlife service schedule get it changed) and most importantly warming up and cooling down properly.
i can't imagine vw are putting the wrong valve springs in still - i don't mean to sound patronising but could what some of you are experiencing possibly be clutch slip?
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Toph, would clutch slip cause the car to judder under heavy acceleration??
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no but a knackered flywheel might, but then so might a duff spark plug.. you chaps need to start adding vagcom to your options list :tongue:
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no but a knackered flywheel might, but then so might a duff spark plug.. you chaps need to start adding vagcom to your options list :tongue:
I think you could be right. Went upto wolves today and under full throttle, at say 80 the wheel just seems to judder like one of the wheels has an issue :undecided:
but the dealer told me the 2 fronts were changed for 2 new wheels after last incident :undecided:
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if there was any kind of problem in that area it'd normally present itself under full load, so mostly noticeable in 5th or 6th when coming on full boost, so maybe around 3250/3500? when gunning it.
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if there was any kind of problem in that area it'd normally present itself under full load, so mostly noticeable in 5th or 6th when coming on full boost, so maybe around 3250/3500? when gunning it.
cheers toph. think i am going to have to test this theory. I have had it a couple of times before but not payed much attention to it... welll mainly because
1. leeds vw are ghey
2. Huddersfield where i take mine is far away - ish
3. How often do u really need to floor it at 80-90?
4. Its not my car so hopefully the problem will go away if i ignore it :laugh:
Will investigate further.. maybe without the map on
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wolves as in wolverhampton? if that's a regular trip for you i'm not far from there.
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wolves as in wolverhampton? if that's a regular trip for you i'm not far from there.
was in both wolves and lemmington today.. unfortunately its not a regular stop off. Where exactly are you based as I just remembered I am in wolves again 26th + 27th March for a wedding
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i'll shoot you a pm fella
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Mine has done something similar at about 70mph in 4th gear i went to accelerate and it just juddered as if i was in too high a gear untill i dipped the clutch and tried again,it is very intermittent and i never get a fault light come up,the dealer could not find anything wrong. Will be interesting to see what your dealer says.
Ha, Funny day for me. Spent best part of £30 going back down to the place, Where he plugs the computer in. Does some laps round his industrial estate. Tells me he carn't get it to recreate the problem and my car is running fine with 0 knocks in the knock bar. And boost and everything looked fine.
I replied " Well its not going to do it round here at 40mph, It was from 70-90mph"
Basically i got nowhere with it. In fairness to the guy I understand he carn't fix what isn't happening.
Laughable part started when I rang revo directly as the guy I went to failed to mend anything or find a problem.
Basically he tells me he's heard of the problem before off people. But whenever he's had people over they've failed to get the car to "missfire" or whatever is happening "Despite people making out it happened everytime" he hasted to add.
Basically told me it was my car. I pointed out my car did nothing of the sort beforehand. Response i got was high boost causes a backlog in the exhaust or a shortage of air intake. Or badoil round the turbo. Tried implying I needed it servicing.
In short i was told there was no point bringing it down for them to look at unless i was 100% sure i could get the car to do it. So im left with a remaped car that doesn't work as it should and they are not prepared to look into it further without me going and showing them 1st there is a problem!
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Mine has done something similar at about 70mph in 4th gear i went to accelerate and it just juddered as if i was in too high a gear untill i dipped the clutch and tried again,it is very intermittent and i never get a fault light come up,the dealer could not find anything wrong. Will be interesting to see what your dealer says.
Ha, Funny day for me. Spent best part of £30 going back down to the place, Where he plugs the computer in. Does some laps round his industrial estate. Tells me he carn't get it to recreate the problem and my car is running fine with 0 knocks in the knock bar. And boost and everything looked fine.
I replied " Well its not going to do it round here at 40mph, It was from 70-90mph"
Basically i got nowhere with it. In fairness to the guy I understand he carn't fix what isn't happening.
Laughable part started when I rang revo directly as the guy I went to failed to mend anything or find a problem.
Basically he tells me he's heard of the problem before off people. But whenever he's had people over they've failed to get the car to "missfire" or whatever is happening "Despite people making out it happened everytime" he hasted to add.
Basically told me it was my car. I pointed out my car did nothing of the sort beforehand. Response i got was high boost causes a backlog in the exhaust or a shortage of air intake. Or badoil round the turbo. Tried implying I needed it servicing.
In short i was told there was no point bringing it down for them to look at unless i was 100% sure i could get the car to do it. So im left with a remaped car that doesn't work as it should and they are not prepared to look into it further without me going and showing them 1st there is a problem!
As said before I would try removing the remap and test further.
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.....Laughable part started when I rang revo directly as the guy I went to failed to mend anything or find a problem.
.......Basically he tells me he's heard of the problem before off people. ..... So im left with a remaped car that doesn't work as it should and they are not prepared to look into it further without me going and showing them 1st there is a problem!
Typically REVOlting.
How frustrating for you and such a waste of time and money.
Ask for a partial refund if you can as they are not providing you with reasonable service.
Really shameful. :sad:
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^^^^Hey... i never said all that :laugh:
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^^^^Hey... i never said all that :laugh:
I know you did not.
Just thought it might be helpful and supportive by 'pushing the boat out a bit'!
As they say, 'No pain, no gain'! :wink:
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Mmm, my experience with Revo and the dealer was much better than that. Ask the revo agent to go on a longer drive with you at the speeds you are experiencing it?
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Mine has done something similar at about 70mph in 4th gear i went to accelerate and it just juddered as if i was in too high a gear untill i dipped the clutch and tried again,it is very intermittent and i never get a fault light come up,the dealer could not find anything wrong. Will be interesting to see what your dealer says.
Ha, Funny day for me. Spent best part of £30 going back down to the place, Where he plugs the computer in. Does some laps round his industrial estate. Tells me he carn't get it to recreate the problem and my car is running fine with 0 knocks in the knock bar. And boost and everything looked fine.
I replied " Well its not going to do it round here at 40mph, It was from 70-90mph"
Basically i got nowhere with it. In fairness to the guy I understand he carn't fix what isn't happening.
Laughable part started when I rang revo directly as the guy I went to failed to mend anything or find a problem.
Basically he tells me he's heard of the problem before off people. But whenever he's had people over they've failed to get the car to "missfire" or whatever is happening "Despite people making out it happened everytime" he hasted to add.
Basically told me it was my car. I pointed out my car did nothing of the sort beforehand. Response i got was high boost causes a backlog in the exhaust or a shortage of air intake. Or badoil round the turbo. Tried implying I needed it servicing.
In short i was told there was no point bringing it down for them to look at unless i was 100% sure i could get the car to do it. So im left with a remaped car that doesn't work as it should and they are not prepared to look into it further without me going and showing them 1st there is a problem!
Thanks for coming back down to us, and sorry we couldn't find the fault. As you said its very intermittent and therefore difficult to diagnose. Your one concern before leaving was if your car was running safely, and having checked for det, requested v actual boost, and several other parameters we were logging, the answer was indeed 'yes', although obviously didn't manage to get replicate the fault and log it at the time. I suggested I speak with Revo on your behalf and get back to you, although if you've already spoken with them I'm not sure what more I can tell you.
Couple of other options, firstly to run your car in Revo Stock mode and see if the issue is still present, or put the car on our Dyno Dynamics rolling road and run at 90 /100/110 mph - happy to do either if you want to.
regards
Neil
www.monstermotorsport.com
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Again many thanks for actually taking time to look at my car on short notice, your obviously running a very busy operation there you have cars parked all over the place. yes im satisfied my car is running safely thanks to your computer, However it just seems frustrating that it wouldn't replicate itself infront of you. Hence the reason I called revo directly to look for some more answers.
Whilst your service was excellent and you have been helpful thoughout. I understand your just an agent for revo. And you dont actually make the software, I assume you just downloaded it onto your computer and flashed it onto my ecu?
I thought the guy from revo was abit patronising when i spoke to him. I basically felt like he was saying its not his problem and its nothing to do with the software, yet he goes on to say he's "heard" the same report a couple off times off others. Surely when he's getting these he should be stopping the agents from installing the map and actually looking for a fault?
Anyway thankyou for the offer. Im busy making my way though the list of suggestions the revo guy made about changing oil / filters etc.. Once ive tried that ill get back to you. Ive ran the car as standard and haven't had any luck recreating the problem.
If that fails, i guess ill have address the exhaust and intake abit sooner then i was going to. so im sure you'll be able to help me there with a miltek or something similar :wink:
Again please dont mistake this as a gripe at you personally just the guy from revo was not very helpful and i finished the conversation feeling more then a little frustrated.
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99/100 times its a fault with the car
When you remap you are obvioulsy placing great demends on the engine and its components. If one particular component is weak or degrading i.e a coilpack then a remap will only multiply the problem, it does not cause the problem as the problem already exists albeit in a much less annoying form
When your car has been mapped and not performing as it should its always quick and easy to blame the remap rather than the car itself
What I would suggest is data logging the car in both standard and mapped form and go from there
What else did the bloke at Revo suggest?
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99/100 times its a fault with the car
When you remap you are obvioulsy placing great demends on the engine and its components. If one particular component is weak or degrading i.e a coilpack then a remap will only multiply the problem, it does not cause the problem as the problem already exists albeit in a much less annoying form
When your car has been mapped and not performing as it should its always quick and easy to blame the remap rather than the car itself
What I would suggest is data logging the car in both standard and mapped form and go from there
What else did the bloke at Revo suggest?
Wouldnt that be the case with a slightly older car ? You wouldnt think his mk6 as its almost shiney new would have weak or degraded components ?
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99/100 times its a fault with the car
When you remap you are obvioulsy placing great demends on the engine and its components. If one particular component is weak or degrading i.e a coilpack then a remap will only multiply the problem, it does not cause the problem as the problem already exists albeit in a much less annoying form
When your car has been mapped and not performing as it should its always quick and easy to blame the remap rather than the car itself
What I would suggest is data logging the car in both standard and mapped form and go from there
What else did the bloke at Revo suggest?
Wouldnt that be the case with a slightly older car ? You wouldnt think his mk6 as its almost shiney new would have weak or degraded components ?
Can happen with any car - you only have to have one slighlty poorly constructed component to slip through quality control :sad:
Even when you replace parts sometimes the new replacement parts can be faulty - heard of many MAF sensor failures straight out of the box! :shocked:
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99/100 times its a fault with the car
When you remap you are obvioulsy placing great demends on the engine and its components. If one particular component is weak or degrading i.e a coilpack then a remap will only multiply the problem, it does not cause the problem as the problem already exists albeit in a much less annoying form
When your car has been mapped and not performing as it should its always quick and easy to blame the remap rather than the car itself
What I would suggest is data logging the car in both standard and mapped form and go from there
What else did the bloke at Revo suggest?
Wouldnt that be the case with a slightly older car ? You wouldnt think his mk6 as its almost shiney new would have weak or degraded components ?
Can happen with any car - you only have to have one slighlty poorly constructed component to slip through quality control :sad:
Who would then be liable for a warranty fix if the lad eventually finds out what it is. VW as it was their part from buld (although the warranty is now gone as its been mapped) or would Revo replace it ? (but its not a fault due to their map) - to me if it is indeed a part thats causing it, he's stuck in a catch 22.
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99/100 times its a fault with the car
When you remap you are obvioulsy placing great demends on the engine and its components. If one particular component is weak or degrading i.e a coilpack then a remap will only multiply the problem, it does not cause the problem as the problem already exists albeit in a much less annoying form
When your car has been mapped and not performing as it should its always quick and easy to blame the remap rather than the car itself
What I would suggest is data logging the car in both standard and mapped form and go from there
What else did the bloke at Revo suggest?
Wouldnt that be the case with a slightly older car ? You wouldnt think his mk6 as its almost shiney new would have weak or degraded components ?
Can happen with any car - you only have to have one slighlty poorly constructed component to slip through quality control :sad:
Who would then be liable for a warranty fix if the lad eventually finds out what it is. VW as it was their part from buld (although the warranty is now gone as its been mapped) or would Revo replace it ? (but its not a fault due to their map) - to me if it is indeed a part thats causing it, he's stuck in a catch 22.
Spot on sadly - the OP needs for it to happen in standard running form as that should prove that the weakness existed BEFORE the map was applied
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99/100 times its a fault with the car
When you remap you are obvioulsy placing great demends on the engine and its components. If one particular component is weak or degrading i.e a coilpack then a remap will only multiply the problem, it does not cause the problem as the problem already exists albeit in a much less annoying form
When your car has been mapped and not performing as it should its always quick and easy to blame the remap rather than the car itself
What I would suggest is data logging the car in both standard and mapped form and go from there
What else did the bloke at Revo suggest?
Wouldnt that be the case with a slightly older car ? You wouldnt think his mk6 as its almost shiney new would have weak or degraded components ?
Can happen with any car - you only have to have one slighlty poorly constructed component to slip through quality control :sad:
Hmmm. I agree that parts with manufacturing flaws might fail unexpectedly. But If you are upgrading a part of an engine (i.e. the ECU 'map'), surely you should be making sure the upgrade falls within the limits of the other componentry and if not, as supplier of the engine upgrade, change that componentry to suit? To do one without the other is poor engineering.
A properly developed remap should not cause poor or unexpected running issues, nor should it stress other components to the extent that they start failing within the first 12 months of use.
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99/100 times its a fault with the car
When you remap you are obvioulsy placing great demends on the engine and its components. If one particular component is weak or degrading i.e a coilpack then a remap will only multiply the problem, it does not cause the problem as the problem already exists albeit in a much less annoying form
When your car has been mapped and not performing as it should its always quick and easy to blame the remap rather than the car itself
What I would suggest is data logging the car in both standard and mapped form and go from there
What else did the bloke at Revo suggest?
Wouldnt that be the case with a slightly older car ? You wouldnt think his mk6 as its almost shiney new would have weak or degraded components ?
Can happen with any car - you only have to have one slighlty poorly constructed component to slip through quality control :sad:
Hmmm. I agree that parts with manufacturing flaws might fail unexpectedly. But If you are upgrading a part of an engine (i.e. the ECU 'map'), surely you should be making sure the upgrade falls within the limits of the other componentry and if not, as supplier of the engine upgrade, change that componentry to suit? To do one without the other is poor engineering.
A properly developed remap should not cause poor or unexpected running issues, nor should it stress other components to the extent that they start failing within the first 12 months of use.
I agree and hence as its a company like REVO i really can't see them having developed a poor map seeing as others on this very forum have exactly the same map and yet experience no issues so therefore IMO the fault must lie with the car
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I'm sorry, but as it's "a company life REVO" and it's "authorised dealer" they should be jumping on any issue which arises as a result of the application or use of their product. Anyone can write a nice email or describe things that should or shouldn't be happening - actually dooing something to support a customer is what really counts.
If one of my customers told me that our product may be operating other than expected, I'd be on to it like a shot and would not leave it until I was happy that I'd done everything I could to rectify the issue, or identify the root cause whether it was my product at fault or not.
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I'm sorry, but as it's "a company life REVO" and it's "authorised dealer" they should be jumping on any issue which arises as a result of the application or use of their product. Anyone can write a nice email or describe things that should or shouldn't be happening - actually dooing something to support a customer is what really counts.
If one of my customers told me that our product may be operating other than expected, I'd be on to it like a shot and would not leave it until I was happy that I'd done everything I could to rectify the issue, or identify the root cause whether it was my product or not.
Again i agree but we don't live in an ideal world. In an ideal world, all tuners would go to the ends of the earth to resolve the problem BUT if the fault is found to be with the car and NOT the map where does that leave the customer??
Good customer service is hard to find these days hence why I trust my car to Nick @ R-Tech even though he's over 100 miles from where i live
It seems that the OP's problem is very intermittent and therefore could take several hours to diagnose or it may never occur again :undecided:
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It just seemed from the OP's post that he's been fobbed off. I agree good service is hard to find and from what I've seen REVO certainly have a good reputation and a good product but it's how a company reacts when there are problems that counts. As a potential future customer, I am watching with interest.
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It just seemed from the OP's post that he's been fobbed off. I agree good service is hard to find and from what I've seen REVO certainly have a good reputation and a good product but it's how a company reacts when there are problems that counts. As a potential future customer, I am watching with interest.
Indeed, especially from REVO themselves :sad: Although the dealer did post and appears knowledgeable :smiley:
Always appears to be the case when you have an intermittment problem - you can never re-create it when you take it back to the dealer :undecided:
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to neil: were there any fault codes recorded? max boost pressure exceeded maybe?
to the o.p: how bad is the power drop and how long does it last? does it seem to lose boost but run otherwise miss-fire free? if it's a wastegate issue it can be very hard to replicate even with a rolling road unless it is a load based dyno but it should be a simpler(cheaper?) fix than a fuelling problem. If you get stuck drop me a pm i can have a quick look for you - maybe give you some ideas and arm you with some knowledge
i don't know the politics between revo and their dealers for issues like this, but i know that a vw dealership will right away blame the remap without even properly looking. If it were my car i'd want the original vw map file put back on the car before considering approaching vw with it or they will fob you off.
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Appreciate the dealer perhaps looked at the car at short notice, but given the fault occurs at 70-90mph then its a bit pointless doing a run round the block at 40mph. The ecu may have logged something but might have been better to have gone when you could have had the second option of putting it on the RR.
Problem with REVO is you can never put it back to VW mapping, only REVOs version - not sure what this is, the first original Mk6 GTI map they uploaded, which could now be several versions old if VW are constantly tweaking ?? The fact that REVO sort of acknowledge they've seen it elsewhere would make me suspicious, unless they could say x component isn't up to the job. The revised map should work on a standard car and not rely on having to further update other components to make it compatible.
Bluefin would have allowed THE standard map to be put back, albeit with the flash count change , so you'd have a chance of a warranty claim if any VW component wasn't 100%. However under the normal map the fault may never ever appear.