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Title: Mk3 Gti 8v - Losing Water - Any idea's ??
Post by: james_101 on 03 March 2010, 23:13
Hi there, I wonder if anyone can shed some light on this. I have to fill up my water probably every 2-3 weeks as falls below the min level on my water expansion bottle and temp light flashes on dash, have visually checked rad and pipes and no obvious leaks so why do i have to fill up the water so much, head gasket problem maybe ??  Anyone had any similar issues, any thoughts welcome. Thanks James
Title: Re: Mk3 Gti 8v - Losing Water - Any idea's ??
Post by: MK3GTI_16Valve on 03 March 2010, 23:16
check the seal on the cooloant cap, mine was leaking out through there.
Title: Re: Mk3 Gti 8v - Losing Water - Any idea's ??
Post by: Wayne on 04 March 2010, 00:15
As above, replace the cap as a 1st step.
Title: Re: Mk3 Gti 8v - Losing Water - Any idea's ??
Post by: VWstevo on 04 March 2010, 19:00
As above, replace the cap as a 1st step.

Hi Wayne

You could get a compression test done worth the money to get it done, or you mite end up spending hundreds of pounds on parts you don't need to change like i did lol. The compression test will tell you were the leak is, cud be a hose, head gasket, o-ring mite have gone down, check the oil make sure the oil is not creamy colour if so cud be the head gone there's so many different things mate. But deff start with the compression test cost about £10-£20 thats wot i paid dude i had my head gasket test too after i had a new one fitted due to loosing coolant and it pressuring up but  this was fine turned out to be a blocked hose.
Title: Re: Mk3 Gti 8v - Losing Water - Any idea's ??
Post by: kr1s77 on 04 March 2010, 20:16
Hi there, I wonder if anyone can shed some light on this. I have to fill up my water probably every 2-3 weeks as falls below the min level on my water expansion bottle and temp light flashes on dash, have visually checked rad and pipes and no obvious leaks so why do i have to fill up the water so much, head gasket problem maybe ??  Anyone had any similar issues, any thoughts welcome. Thanks James

i'm having the exact same problem, gonna try a new cap first aswell this week
Title: Re: Mk3 Gti 8v - Losing Water - Any idea's ??
Post by: VWstevo on 04 March 2010, 20:19
Hi there, I wonder if anyone can shed some light on this. I have to fill up my water probably every 2-3 weeks as falls below the min level on my water expansion bottle and temp light flashes on dash, have visually checked rad and pipes and no obvious leaks so why do i have to fill up the water so much, head gasket problem maybe ??  Anyone had any similar issues, any thoughts welcome. Thanks James

i'm having the exact same problem, gonna try a new cap first aswell this week

New cap £4 GSF.
Title: Re: Mk3 Gti 8v - Losing Water - Any idea's ??
Post by: kr1s77 on 04 March 2010, 20:25
thanks stevo, £4 can't complain at that  :smug: might also treat it to a new coolant bottle aswel
Title: Re: Mk3 Gti 8v - Losing Water - Any idea's ??
Post by: VWstevo on 04 March 2010, 21:02
thanks stevo, £4 can't complain at that  :smug: might also treat it to a new coolant bottle aswel

Yeh i did too, bottle i think £9 lol.
Title: Re: Mk3 Gti 8v - Losing Water - Any idea's ??
Post by: veedubFanatic on 04 March 2010, 21:50
Hi there, I wonder if anyone can shed some light on this. I have to fill up my water probably every 2-3 weeks as falls below the min level on my water expansion bottle and temp light flashes on dash, have visually checked rad and pipes and no obvious leaks so why do i have to fill up the water so much, head gasket problem maybe ??  Anyone had any similar issues, any thoughts welcome. Thanks James

I wouldn't say it is not the head gasket. if coolant is free of oil and oil free of water, the head gasket is ok. it is rather a heater matrix in 90%.
Title: Re: Mk3 Gti 8v - Losing Water - Any idea's ??
Post by: christomk3gti on 04 March 2010, 21:51
could be leaking at the water pump aswell.
Title: Re: Mk3 Gti 8v - Losing Water - Any idea's ??
Post by: Carl MK3 GTI 8V on 04 March 2010, 22:16
if u regularly park in the same place check the ground as coolant will stain it.
It may only leak when the car is on due to the pressure but worth a look wont be your headgasket if this is the case.
my own waterpump was slightly leakin and was fixed by adding radweld! :wink:
Title: Re: Mk3 Gti 8v - Losing Water - Any idea's ??
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 05 March 2010, 00:18
As previously said, pressure test the system.
I bought a tester on ebay for £90, found my leak on the A8 in a few minutes, and i douby i would of ever found it without the tester.
Its a great tool to have if you work on different cars.
Title: Re: Mk3 Gti 8v - Losing Water - Any idea's ??
Post by: veedubFanatic on 05 March 2010, 00:43
As previously said, pressure test the system.
I bought a tester on ebay for £90, found my leak on the A8 in a few minutes, and i douby i would of ever found it without the tester.
Its a great tool to have if you work on different cars.

Useful, but as you saying, if you work a lot on cars. it is mainly used for finding blowing on valves or compression rings. there is no point in spending 100 quid on tool that is going to be used once. if it is matter of leaking, first of all its best to check coolant and oil, or you can go to nearest garage and do testing- that should be cheaper. besides if it was head gasket or cylinder wall,  car wouldn't pull as before as there wouldn't be enough compression on one of the cylinders.
Second beside is that I wouldn't like to find out that the compression on one or more cylinders is far lower than it should be and it is not due to the head gasket failure... :shocked:
Title: Re: Mk3 Gti 8v - Losing Water - Any idea's ??
Post by: kr1s77 on 08 March 2010, 20:17
I bought a new bottle and cap from ecp today £12.75. Gonna fit it in the morning
Title: Re: Mk3 Gti 8v - Losing Water - Any idea's ??
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 09 March 2010, 00:15
As previously said, pressure test the system.
I bought a tester on ebay for £90, found my leak on the A8 in a few minutes, and i douby i would of ever found it without the tester.
Its a great tool to have if you work on different cars.

Useful, but as you saying, if you work a lot on cars. it is mainly used for finding blowing on valves or compression rings. there is no point in spending 100 quid on tool that is going to be used once. if it is matter of leaking, first of all its best to check coolant and oil, or you can go to nearest garage and do testing- that should be cheaper. besides if it was head gasket or cylinder wall,  car wouldn't pull as before as there wouldn't be enough compression on one of the cylinders.
Second beside is that I wouldn't like to find out that the compression on one or more cylinders is far lower than it should be and it is not due to the head gasket failure... :shocked:

Very true.
I would suggest getting a garage to do the test, it should be cheap.
I just like collecting tools  :huh:
Title: Re: Mk3 Gti 8v - Losing Water - Any idea's ??
Post by: veedubFanatic on 09 March 2010, 20:06
I bought a new bottle and cap from ecp today £12.75. Gonna fit it in the morning

let us know after fitting if it changed anything.  :wink:
Title: Re: Mk3 Gti 8v - Losing Water - Any idea's ??
Post by: kr1s77 on 10 March 2010, 20:18
will do, fitted it yesterday morning and checked it today. so far ok, i'll report back in a week  :smiley:
Title: Re: Mk3 Gti 8v - Losing Water - Any idea's ??
Post by: Alec on 10 March 2010, 21:04
Plastic flange where a hose meets the block is common failure on mk3's and mk2's. I had exactly the same symptoms

Mine went on the passenger side of the block and was only noticeable when engine was up to temp and you could just see a slight bubble and steam
Title: Re: Mk3 Gti 8v - Losing Water - Any idea's ??
Post by: RBL8vGTI on 10 March 2010, 22:18
Hi there, I wonder if anyone can shed some light on this. I have to fill up my water probably every 2-3 weeks as falls below the min level on my water expansion bottle and temp light flashes on dash, have visually checked rad and pipes and no obvious leaks so why do i have to fill up the water so much, head gasket problem maybe ??  Anyone had any similar issues, any thoughts welcome. Thanks James


i have had a similar problem just a slight water leak .....i found it by doing the following....looking into the engine bay on the 8v engine....on the right side at the end of the cylinder block just above the gearbox bell housing you will see an plastic 90 degree elbow pipe ...it is attached to the end of the block via the moulded plastic flange and an rubber o ring, using two 10mm bolts i think.......heres the trick wait until it is dark....start the engine let it run for a while......then shine a torch into engine bay around.....the 90 degree elbow and what i found was that the leak was just vapourising between the flange and  o ring seal ...and you could only spot the very fine vapour leak by torch at nite..!.......either the 0 ring had failed or the plastic elbow had deformed with the heat over the 12 year period...worth checking all the other coolant hase connection areas with a torch in the dark just in case it mite be venting anywhere else in the engine bay....hope it works for you - good luck :laugh: