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Title: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: mr magoo on 23 February 2010, 19:34
Hi All

A friend of mine's toying with a VW Scirocco. Must admit I don't know which engine/spec yet but it'll be a DSG box and probably a fairly meaty petrol engine, as opposed to the 1.4TFSI or a deisel.

I really think he should go for the MkVI GTi. As a MkV Ed30 owner myself, I just think you get so much more for your hard-earned out of a Golf than you do out of a Scirocco.

It's so much more practical (:nerd:), I appreciate the figures for a Scirocco might be slighlty better for the same engine than in a GTi, but in the real world who'd notice.

If he's insistent, any thoughts on which engine? He's a consultant surgeon so money's not exactly an object!

Martin


PS - appreciate this is a GTi forum so voting / opinion is bound to be slightly skewed  :laugh:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: R32UK on 23 February 2010, 19:46
tell him to test drive both. the decision making will be made much easier  :wink: golf ftw
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: gizzywizzy on 23 February 2010, 19:50
If he wants a 3door may as well get  Scirocco if he needs a 5door get a GTI.

Gizzy
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: evo1986 on 23 February 2010, 19:51
Pointless exercise putting it on here................

Both are great cars if he doesn't need an occasional 4/5 seater then scirocco all the way

2.0tfsi or 170 derv gt

Lee Evans
VW Cheltenham
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: gossa on 23 February 2010, 19:59
Lee I have had both and I would say the Golf is a better car irrespective of the number of people you want to carry. The Scirocco looks great, a real head turner but suffers from torque and understeer, is not as well built as the Golf and just isn't the complete car that the Golf is. The Golf is a better car in my opinion.
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: mr magoo on 23 February 2010, 20:10
Pointless exercise putting it on here................

Both are great cars if he doesn't need an occasional 4/5 seater then scirocco all the way

2.0tfsi or 170 derv gt

Lee Evans
VW Cheltenham

Typical stealer comment  :laugh:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: keelaw on 23 February 2010, 20:12

OWN UP!!!!  WHO ACCIDENTLY PRESSED THE SCIROCCO BUTTON?!?!?!!?  :evil:


Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: p3eps on 23 February 2010, 20:12
About 4 months ago I would have said the Scirocco... but the more I see them, the less I like them!
It depends what he wants it for...
Golf has more room in the back, and extra seat, and a bigger boot.
Thats why I went for the Golf over the Scirocco - oh yeah, and the 4wd  :evil:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: Blackroc on 23 February 2010, 20:18
Like Gossa, I have owned a Scirocco, and agree with his comments. The interior is the mk5 (Eos..) interior with a few tweeks, but not as nice as a Golf mk6. HOWEVER at £2k cheaper, that could sway you towards a 'Roc. It is no where near as practical as a Golf however, so it would come down to a test drive i would suggest.. Both are great cars  :smiley:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: am1w on 23 February 2010, 20:29
Scrirocco is built in a PIGS country!
Golf is built in Germany.
We might eat a pig, but wiil we drive one?
Golf is better built.
Ta ta.
The end.
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: VWKev on 23 February 2010, 20:42

OWN UP!!!!  WHO ACCIDENTLY PRESSED THE SCIROCCO BUTTON?!?!?!!?  :evil:




There's been 3 of them so far, I bet all mk5 GTI owners  :grin:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: mr magoo on 23 February 2010, 21:05

OWN UP!!!!  WHO ACCIDENTLY PRESSED THE SCIROCCO BUTTON?!?!?!!?  :evil:




There's been 3 of them so far, I bet all mk5 GTI owners  :grin:

Cheeky  :laugh:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: Snoopy on 23 February 2010, 21:13
I did, for the reason i don't want any more hold ups with production  :wink:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: FamilyDub on 24 February 2010, 10:33
There's been 3 of them so far, I bet all mk5 GTI owners  :grin:

^^^^ You have no idea how true that comment is.

If you're talking only GTI/'Rocco R/Golf R, then I think the best of the three is a 5-dr GTI.... but then again I'm biased. Try the same question on a 'Rocco or an R forum, though...  :lipsrsealed: :laugh:

3-Dr, or for those who like to show off = Scirocco
5-Dr, or for those who are more discerning = Golf
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: p3asa on 24 February 2010, 11:13
When I first saw a scirocco, I thought it was jaw dropping and very unique.
I was really tempted to get one even although I needed a 5 seater and 5 doors.
Went and had a closer look and wasn't that impressed to be honest. It just didn't feel right.
Now when I see them I think they just look like deformed Golfs.
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: Awry on 24 February 2010, 11:51
To me the Scirocco looks great at certain angles, but from some angles it just looks weird. I considered buying one last year before the GTI came out. It has a very exciting look but I'm not sure if I'd still like the look in a year or two. Tbh I don't think the design will age very well and about a year later after release I don't like it as much as I did initially. Also the interior doesn't fit the exterior at all. VW seemed to have ran out of time when they made the interior. It looks like two different cars and due to the interior it doesn't feel special when you're inside. VW should have brought the same design style to the inside. It felt unfinished to me compared to my mothers Cooper S. Now that's a car that follows the design style both inside and out. I prefer the look of a 3-door GTI but my next car will most likely be a more practical 5-door depending on the family situation.
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: FamilyDub on 24 February 2010, 12:05

Is it just me, or is the 'Rocco particularly colour-sensitive?

I think black, blue and white are luuuuvvvly, but the others are poo.
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: herbie911 on 24 February 2010, 12:19
I was tempted to buy a scirroco due to its price and sharper driving experience. I decide to spend the extra £ for the Golf cause it looks better and easier to park!
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: p3asa on 24 February 2010, 12:32

Is it just me, or is the 'Rocco particularly colour-sensitive?

I think black, blue and white are luuuuvvvly, but the others are poo.

I think similar although the black to me makes it look like one of those Pumas or Tigras and does nothing for me.
The white and blue make it look ok though.
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: mac7 on 24 February 2010, 16:24
I'd agree on the best colours being blue or white. I'd still pick the Golf though. If the OP's mate does get a Scirocco though, it needs to be this one:

(http://cdn.images.autocar.co.uk/612x408FFFFFF/Car/Volkswagen/Scirocco/Volkswagen-Scirocco-232101095798311600x1060.jpg)
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: Gazdebaz on 25 February 2010, 10:34
Having test driven both. Went for the Golf with no regrets at all.
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: am1w on 25 February 2010, 19:04
(1) The Scirocco has a backside like that of an overdressed Victorian woman.
(2) It has the worst forward visibility of any car due to the exceedingly thick 'A' pillars.
(3) It is really dingy in the back.
(4) The rear passengers have to crouch like hunchbacks.
(5) The 'R' version has an unsightly clip-on sill.
(6) It has very little interior storage space.
(7) Its dashboard does not look fresh (from the Eos).
(8) It has small boot space and a big arse!
(9) It is noisier than a Golf.
(10) Its rear visibility is very poor so can be difficult to park.
(11) Door mirrors very small and not very helpful.
(12) It is made in a PIGS country and not in Germany, hence quality is not quite as good.
(13) It is a good second car.

The list goes on and on ........

Stop comparing chalk and cheese.

PS: p3asa: I have added another two just for you!

Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: p3asa on 25 February 2010, 22:16
How many times have you edited this post?
Every time I have logged on, this post has been highlighted as having a new message and every time it has just been an edit!!! Must be at least 4, 5 or 6 times.
And you have the cheek to slag James Gould about being indecisive  :laugh:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: am1w on 25 February 2010, 22:22
How many times have you edited this post?
Every time I have logged on, this post has been highlighted as having a new message and every time it has just been an edit!!! Must be at least 4, 5 or 6 times.
And you have the cheek to slag James Gould about being indecisive  :laugh:

Stop stalking me, you monster. :huh:
I have never slagged James. I find him extremely interesting and miss him terribly at present.
I have edited this post just to improve the syntax. I had a problem with the smiley's appearing when unwanted. The 11 points have remained the same. :tongue:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: JJH on 25 February 2010, 22:40
I'd agree on the best colours being blue or white. I'd still pick the Golf though. If the OP's mate does get a Scirocco though, it needs to be this one:

(http://cdn.images.autocar.co.uk/612x408FFFFFF/Car/Volkswagen/Scirocco/Volkswagen-Scirocco-232101095798311600x1060.jpg)

I'd go along with that, that's a good looking motor.
However, after considering your friends predicament for not very long if the truth be told, leave it to him, he seems more than qualified to make his own mind up.

BTW, where is a 'PIGS' country?
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: am1w on 25 February 2010, 22:44
BTW, where is a 'PIGS' country?
[/quote]

Portugal, Ireland, Greece, Spain.
The Scirocco is made in Portugal.
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: JJH on 25 February 2010, 22:55
'I see' said the blind man....here's another......U STUPID GIT

excessive borrowers: U STUPID GIT. It pulls together Usa, Spain, Turkey, the UK, Portugal, Italy, and Dubai.
Greece, Iceland and Turkmenistan......

We live, we learn.....
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: am1w on 25 February 2010, 23:02
'I see' said the blind man....here's another......U STUPID GIT
excessive borrowers: U STUPID GIT. It pulls together Usa, Spain, Turkey, the UK, Portugal, Italy, and Dubai.
Greece, Iceland and Turkmenistan......
We live, we learn.....

Excellent!
I have learnt.
Thank you. :smiley:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: yeahpj on 25 February 2010, 23:12
GTI all day long  :laugh:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: mac7 on 26 February 2010, 10:12
The Scirocco has a backside like that of an overdressed Victorian woman.

 :grin:

It has small boot space and a big arse!

Sounds good to me  :wink:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: Steve30 on 26 February 2010, 10:24
GTI all day long  :laugh:
GTD is the new way forward , Sorry mate Steve  :laugh:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: Snoopy on 26 February 2010, 11:50
GTI all day long  :laugh:
GTD is the new way forward , Sorry mate Steve  :laugh:
RD maybe :evil:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: keelaw on 26 February 2010, 12:58
GTI all day long  :laugh:
GTD is the new way forward , Sorry mate Steve  :laugh:


sorry the GTD doesn't even figure in this poll.... so no place for it here!  :evil:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: FamilyDub on 26 February 2010, 13:33

To quote Kev; "Shut it diesel boy"  :evil: :laugh:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: VWKev on 26 February 2010, 15:15

To quote Kev; "Shut it diesel boy"  :evil: :laugh:

 :grin:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: am1w on 26 February 2010, 18:04
The Scirocco has a backside like that of an overdressed Victorian woman.
:grin:
It has small boot space and a big arse!
Sounds good to me  :wink:

I too wanted to get a Scirocco in the beginning.
Then I drove one. Not bad I thought except those thick 'A' pillars would provide me with the perfect foil to have a super accident in London traffic. Could not see much out of the door mirrors either. My poor passanger, who sat in the back, ended up without one that was functioning properly after a half hour test drive. The poor chap looked quite crippled and in pain.
Nice looking car, shame about the inside.
Beauty is only skin deep.
Just like Jordon, well sort of! :wink:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: sunnylunn on 26 February 2010, 18:20
if it wasn't for my two sprogs, i'd have a rocco R, but as it is, its just not practical enough, what do i replace my bluefinned ed30 with? sorry a bit off topic, just love the look of the scirocco  :drool:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: gossa on 26 February 2010, 23:19
if it wasn't for my two sprogs, i'd have a rocco R, but as it is, its just not practical enough, what do i replace my bluefinned ed30 with? sorry a bit off topic, just love the look of the scirocco  :drool:

With two kids you'd be fine, my two loved the 'roc, but then another sprog came along, damn my fertility!
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: am1w on 26 February 2010, 23:25
if it wasn't for my two sprogs, i'd have a rocco R, but as it is, its just not practical enough, what do i replace my bluefinned ed30 with? sorry a bit off topic, just love the look of the scirocco  :drool:
With two kids you'd be fine, my two loved the 'roc, but then another sprog came along, damn my fertility!

The Scirocco would have put an end to that ... just like very tight jeans!
A vasectomy on wheels, literally! :grin:
If only you had purchased it when it first came on to the market! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: Steve30 on 27 February 2010, 13:30
GTI all day long  :laugh:
GTD is the new way forward , Sorry mate Steve  :laugh:


sorry the GTD doesn't even figure in this poll.... so no place for it here!  :evil:

How the F**** do you know what your talking about Keelaw?? You aint even driven one!!

You only live up the road from me , So lets meet and put it to the test big mouth!!  :wink:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: Steve30 on 27 February 2010, 13:34

To quote Kev; "Shut it diesel boy"  :evil: :laugh:

 :grin:
Yea you can shut it too , bed weter!! :laugh:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: am1w on 27 February 2010, 14:25
sorry the GTD doesn't even figure in this poll.... so no place for it here!  :evil:
[/quote] How the F**** do you know what your talking about Keelaw?? You aint even driven one!!
You only live up the road from me , So lets meet and put it to the test big mouth!!  :wink:
[/quote]

Invite him for coffee and cakes! :wink:
Steve, have you thought of starting a Golf GTD forum/tread? :rolleyes:
I have to agree with 'keelaw' and 'kev' as this is a Mk6 GTi vs Scirocco thread. :smiley:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: Steve30 on 27 February 2010, 16:31
sorry the GTD doesn't even figure in this poll.... so no place for it here!  :evil:
How the F**** do you know what your talking about Keelaw?? You aint even driven one!!
You only live up the road from me , So lets meet and put it to the test big mouth!!  :wink:
[/quote]

Invite him for coffee and cakes! :wink:
Steve, have you thought of starting a Golf GTD forum/tread? :rolleyes:
I have to agree with 'keelaw' and 'kev' as this is a Mk6 GTi vs Scirocco thread. :smiley:
[/quote] You can shut it to gaylord!! :laugh: Why should I start one? I have a an Ed30 ive also had 4 MK5 gti's befor that!! So I think i know my stuff around GTI's!!  :wink: The Roco is a very poor car in my IMO, and it would be the GTI by far hands down!!

Now its the GTD hahaha
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: Snoopy on 27 February 2010, 16:48
(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8439/gtd003.jpg)

 :evil:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: Steve30 on 27 February 2010, 16:50
Excllent snoopy very nice motor!! :laugh:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: am1w on 27 February 2010, 17:18
Steve, Steve, Steve.
You know you have made a mistake getting a GTD.
Don't be upset with yourself. Its ok.
Now why don't you go for some anger management?
Enjoy 9am on March 1st.
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: Steve30 on 27 February 2010, 17:26
Steve, Steve, Steve.
You know you have made a mistake getting a GTD.
Don't be upset with yourself. Its ok.
Now why don't you go for some anger management?
Enjoy 9am on March 1st.

Just full of idiots on here who think they know it all, and know nothing?? Stop salgging off the GTD , before you have driven it!! Me angry never in in a million years :laugh: No mistakes made at all, I dont make mistakes not like somone on here (JG) I am self actualised & perfect in every way :smug:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: VWKev on 27 February 2010, 17:28

To quote Kev; "Shut it diesel boy"  :evil: :laugh:

 :grin:
Yea you can shut it too , bed weter!! :laugh:

 :laugh:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: am1w on 27 February 2010, 17:30
Steve, Steve, Steve.
You know you have made a mistake getting a GTD.
Don't be upset with yourself. Its ok.
Now why don't you go for some anger management?
Enjoy 9am on March 1st.
[/quote]

Just full of idiots on here who think they know it all, and know nothing?? Stop salgging off the GTD , before you have driven it!! Me angry never in in a million years :laugh:
[/quote]

Have a great morning on March 1st. :smiley:

Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: Steve30 on 27 February 2010, 17:32
Thanks mate enjoy Steve  :wink:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: VWKev on 27 February 2010, 17:33
We all know Steve feels very passionately about his GTD, as do we with our GTI's. But what we dont know, but I have found out, is that he also likes some bum love. I wont be participating or accepting his invites so stop PM'ing me Steve.
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: Steve30 on 27 February 2010, 17:36
We all know Steve feels very passionately about his GTD, as do we with our GTI's. But what we dont know, but I have found out, is that he also likes some bum love. I wont be participating or accepting his invites so stop PM'ing me Steve.

hahahahahaah :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Cracker Kev!! Pi**ing myself laughing mate
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: VWKev on 27 February 2010, 17:40
We all know Steve feels very passionately about his GTD, as do we with our GTI's. But what we dont know, but I have found out, is that he also likes some bum love. I wont be participating or accepting his invites so stop PM'ing me Steve.

hahahahahaah :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Cracker Kev!! Pi**ing myself laughing mate

 :laugh: :evil:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: am1w on 27 February 2010, 17:41
We all know Steve feels very passionately about his GTD, as do we with our GTI's. But what we dont know, but I have found out, is that he also likes some bum love. I wont be participating or accepting his invites so stop PM'ing me Steve.

So he has been P(u)M(p)ing you. :embarassed: :shocked:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: Steve30 on 27 February 2010, 17:46
We all know Steve feels very passionately about his GTD, as do we with our GTI's. But what we dont know, but I have found out, is that he also likes some bum love. I wont be participating or accepting his invites so stop PM'ing me Steve.

So he has been P(u)M(p)ing you. :embarassed: :shocked:

Its the other way round , he ask out for a date the other day!!  :laugh: I had to turn him down, wife swaping only for me!!
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: am1w on 27 February 2010, 17:49
So he has been P(u)M(p)ing you. :embarassed: :shocked:
[/quote]
Its the other way round , he ask out for a date the other day!!  :laugh: I had to turn him down, wife swaping only for me!!
[/quote]

OMG. Whatever next?
You guy's make me blush!
Carry on ....... :laugh:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: R32UK on 27 February 2010, 17:54
We all know Steve feels very passionately about his GTD, as do we with our GTI's. But what we dont know, but I have found out, is that he also likes some bum love. I wont be participating or accepting his invites so stop PM'ing me Steve.

So he has been P(u)M(p)ing you. :embarassed: :shocked:

Its the other way round , he ask out for a date the other day!!  :laugh: I had to turn him down, wife swaping only for me!!

Cant see kev sticking his keys in a bowl with yours.... you will be running off with his GTI  :tongue: :grin:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: Steve30 on 27 February 2010, 17:56
We all know Steve feels very passionately about his GTD, as do we with our GTI's. But what we dont know, but I have found out, is that he also likes some bum love. I wont be participating or accepting his invites so stop PM'ing me Steve.

So he has been P(u)M(p)ing you. :embarassed: :shocked:

Its the other way round , he ask out for a date the other day!!  :laugh: I had to turn him down, wife swaping only for me!!

Cant see kev sticking his keys in a bowl with yours.... you will be running off with his GTI  :tongue: :grin:
very good !! :laugh:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: VWKev on 27 February 2010, 22:36
 :grin:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: Neil gti on 27 February 2010, 23:57
We all know Steve feels very passionately about his GTD, as do we with our GTI's. But what we dont know, but I have found out, is that he also likes some bum love. I wont be participating or accepting his invites so stop PM'ing me Steve.

So he has been P(u)M(p)ing you. :embarassed: :shocked:

Its the other way round , he ask out for a date the other day!!  :laugh: I had to turn him down, wife swaping only for me!!

Cant see kev sticking his keys in a bowl with yours.... you will be running off with his GTI  :tongue: :grin:

You lot crack me up          (http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/NeilGti/congrats.gif)
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: DDRFan on 28 February 2010, 00:44
...
You lot crack me up          (http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/NeilGti/congrats.gif)
I prefer to keep my crack firmly shut. It is only open for letting stuff out.
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: VWKev on 28 February 2010, 03:53
 :sick:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: am1w on 28 February 2010, 10:53
...
You lot crack me up          (http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/NeilGti/congrats.gif)
I prefer to keep my crack firmly shut. It is only open for letting stuff out.

Fanny: that was a truly disgusting comment. :sick:
You made Kev feel sick at 3.53 in the morning. Not good for us! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: Steve30 on 28 February 2010, 11:44
...
You lot crack me up          (http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/NeilGti/congrats.gif)
I prefer to keep my crack firmly shut. It is only open for letting stuff out.

Fanny: that was a truly disgusting comment. :sick:
You made Kev feel sick at 3.53 in the morning. Not good for us! :rolleyes:
Kev's back door is always open for buisness!!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: am1w on 28 February 2010, 11:50
...
You lot crack me up          (http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt94/NeilGti/congrats.gif)
I prefer to keep my crack firmly shut. It is only open for letting stuff out.

Fanny: that was a truly disgusting comment. :sick:
You made Kev feel sick at 3.53 in the morning. Not good for us! :rolleyes:
Kev's back door is always open for buisness!!  :rolleyes:

TMI!
However, it is good to know this for future reference! :laugh:
Title: Re: MkVI GTi vs Scirocco
Post by: VWKev on 28 February 2010, 13:33
 :laugh: I'm getting scared now lads.