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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Das Auto on 19 February 2010, 13:21
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I cannot decide which one to go for ? is there a superior remap ? and more importantly will i be able to keep up with my mates S3 :smug: ?
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I'd advise you not to get a map to keep up with your mate. It's not a game of who can outdo the other. He has 4wd so will always jump you off the line. If you are getting a map then get it because it will enhance the enjoyment of your car. Otherwise, youll feel a bit silly if you get a map and then find your mate has got a map aswell and can still beat you (or has bought a faster car)
Just about every company AMD, Superchips, MTM, Revo etc offer a map that takes the mk 6 to around 255-265 bhp. There are other posts on this forum about the pros and cons of each firm. It's really personal choice.
I know its tempting to want more power when in a rivalry (especially between friends) but be careful you don't ruin the handling and balance of your car.
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Just a bit of sport pal to be honest i wouldnt care if his S3 was quicker because mine looks nicer :cool: Im leaning more towards bluefin
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I had been leaning towards Blufin, too, until someone on here pointed out that Superchips are 'specialised' in every engine under the sun. Revo only do VAG. I went with them in September and have been delighted ever since. It gives the GTI the sort of acceleration it should have been given in the first place.
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Bluefin vote for me. Aftersales service has been superb and would reccommend them to anyone.
A stage 1 Bluefin Ed30 would out excellerate an S3, due to the s3 suffering with more of its transmission losses.Round tight bends in the wet, then just forget and concede :wink:
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Bluefin 4 me, power on power off do it yourself..
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i wouldnt care if his S3 was quicker because mine looks nicer
are you on drugs?
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i wouldnt care if his S3 was quicker because mine looks nicer
are you on drugs?
Why?
Because he prefers the look of the GTI?
So do I...I wouldn't have a current S3 parked on my driveway...the car is bland/boring and I much prefer the look of the Golf (I don't like the image of the Audi owners much either).
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Revo for me :cool:
p.s. you can remove the map whenever you like also :wink:
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I cannot decide which one to go for ? is there a superior remap ? and more importantly will i be able to keep up with my mates S3 :smug: ?
Try and get Snoopy's advice before you decide.
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i wouldnt care if his S3 was quicker because mine looks nicer
are you on drugs?
Why?
Because he prefers the look of the GTI?
So do I...I wouldn't have a current S3 parked on my driveway...the car is bland/boring and I much prefer the look of the Golf (I don't like the image of the Audi owners much either).
here here S3s are boring
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Try and get Snoopy's advice before you decide.
Not a good idea, Im extemely biased as i had a very bad experience with a certain tuners map quite a few years back now so would not touch that company with a barge pole.
All the coments about the S3 looks i do like it from the front theres just something about the A3 from the front i really like. The back im not that keen on and the side is ok in 3 door form.
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Revo all day long :smiley:
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Try and get Snoopy's advice before you decide.
Not a good idea, Im extemely biased as i had a very bad experience with a certain tuners map quite a few years back now so would not touch that company with a barge pole.
Please, please give us a hint.
Just a tiny one, please.
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Try and get Snoopy's advice before you decide.
Not a good idea, Im extemely biased as i had a very bad experience with a certain tuners map quite a few years back now so would not touch that company with a barge pole.
All the coments about the S3 looks i do like it from the front theres just something about the A3 from the front i really like. The back im not that keen on and the side is ok in 3 door form.
Do you think you could tell us what company it is your talking about so we could avoid your misfortune
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It was a long time back and a different VW model engine, there has been loads of satisfied customers since and the tinternet is swomped with there fanboys. But for me its once bitten....
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I think i remember this from the 'ol mk5 board!?! :huh:
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One thing i would say to anyone getting a remap from any company is book a rolling road session with a diagnostics company, to make sure everything is doing and working as it should be. Or even better get a custom map for your car.
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It was a long time back and a different VW model engine, there has been loads of satisfied customers since and the tinternet is swomped with there fanboys. But for me its once bitten....
Wonderful answer! :wink: :smiley:
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A synopsis from Car Magazine of a CUSTOM remap - "Most chip remaps/conversions are generic and don't take account that over a car's production run its ECU may be changed and the accompanying software codes updated, so one ECU generation could have several different software codes and there could be more than one ECU generation.
It is also worth noting that manufacturers sometimes factor in an ECU reflash as part of a car's service schedule, curing glitches or improving running characterestics. This would wipe any chip upgrades, so the upgrade software needs to be re-installed. You should find out from the dearlership if a reflash was due and was installed.
One company that especially tailors chip conversion/upgrade for each particular car is Abt, based in Leeds. Abt are the German tuners who run Audi's DTM team. The work meets Germany's tough TUV standards and the warranty matches the factory offering.
On a Scirocco 2.0TFSi they acheived 40 bhp and 44 lb ft hikes to 237 bhp and 251 lb ft for power and torque. Installation time 1 hour, Cost £1299." - Ben Barry, Car Magazine, March 2010
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Sorry what's the point of that Car extract?
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Sorry what's the point of that Car extract?
I just felt like wasting your time and my time. :smiley:
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No probs dude
I think this has been posed before, but seems appropriate here:
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/firstdrives/245473/golf_gti_by_superchips.html
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I'm no REVO fanboy but have it on mine.
I've had re-maps from most of the big names over the years, and a few smaller ones too but the REVO ones have been my favourites.
The one I had on my Polo 1.8t GTI was stunning; perfect power delivery. The one on my mk6 GTI is pretty darned good and hasn't ruined my fuel consumption either.
I know where Snoopy is coming from but I've read horror stories about most re-maps to be honest.
I'm not sure if wigit is a member on here but go have a search for him on mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum and on the Scirocco forums. He's had rolling road sessions with both re-maps and one had a bit of an advantage (I think I'm right that the Scirocco engine is very similar to the Golfs?).
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i am sure wigit also noticed that the flash count HAD been going up with each time the map was put on and off - in effect rubbishing the claims that superchips does not effect the flash counter
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i wouldnt care if his S3 was quicker because mine looks nicer
are you on drugs?
Why?
Because he prefers the look of the GTI?
So do I...I wouldn't have a current S3 parked on my driveway...the car is bland/boring and I much prefer the look of the Golf (I don't like the image of the Audi owners much either).
:grin: and your nick's "Ess Three"
Each to their own but I was in between buying another Gti or my S3- my sister in law has a candy white gti 6 and everytime we visit I admire both vehicles from a distance- how one can say the s3 is bland and boring :undecided:sounds a bit like you're staring through "beer goggles" bud :grin: I love the look of the 6 but parked next to the S3 it looks like a MPV! Don't understand why it's build so "Top heavy" for a hot hatch... one wouldn't notice it on it's own but pull it alongside the s3 and all I can say is that the s3 looks race ready and stealth compared to das uber golf... :smug: i don't like the image of BMW and Ford ST drivers either... :grin:
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Disagree Gabrial, saw an S3 today parked up and had to spot that it wasn't a 1.6 it was so bland. Shame as I'd prefer AWD but I couldn't bear to drive something that looks that dull. However if they do a cracking job with the RS3 I might be tempted.
Just my opinion of course Gabrial and I respect yours.
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:grin: and your nick's "Ess Three"
Each to their own but I was in between buying another Gti or my S3- my sister in law has a candy white gti 6 and everytime we visit I admire both vehicles from a distance- how one can say the s3 is bland and boring :undecided:sounds a bit like you're staring through "beer goggles" bud :grin: I love the look of the 6 but parked next to the S3 it looks like a MPV! Don't understand why it's build so "Top heavy" for a hot hatch... one wouldn't notice it on it's own but pull it alongside the s3 and all I can say is that the s3 looks race ready and stealth compared to das uber golf... :smug:
Looks 'race ready' eh?
Probably the least race ready car I've looked at in the last 15 years, in my mind.
It looks uber bland...typical current Audi. It could be any/every Audi coming towards you, and any A3 even close up.
It also happens to be boring as hell to drive. Almost too efficient…boring, boring, boring…with solid suspension, no steering feel and a dull chassis.
I used to own an 8L S3…when the ‘S’ meant bigger arches, completely different cars…but the current one is just another bland Audi designed to fit into the lifestyle of someone who thinks they are better than everybody else because they have an Audi…and for those reasons I’d not have one parked on my driveway.
I’ll leave those sorts of games to all the saddos that live nearby…
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Disagree Gabrial, saw an S3 today parked up and had to spot that it wasn't a 1.6 it was so bland. Shame as I'd prefer AWD but I couldn't bear to drive something that looks that dull. However if they do a cracking job with the RS3 I might be tempted.
Just my opinion of course Gabrial and I respect yours.
Seems I agree with you...
I could buy a really nice spec S3 for £2000 more than a GTI with the deals they are offering at the moment.
A Golf R would cost me £8,000 more than a GTI. (R in a similar spec to the S3..buckets, sunroof etc)
Personally, I'd rather pay the £8,000 and have a Golf.
The RS3 would need a radical rethink over the S3 to make me interested I'm afraid...they'd need to make it interesting to drive, instead of just fast, for starters.
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:grin: Sorry I find it so funny when later mark golf owners talk about other cars looking bland :grin:
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:grin: Sorry I find it so funny when later mark golf owners talk about other cars looking bland :grin:
Is that why some of use keep 'old' Golfs in the garage, whilst driving boring 'modern' Golfs everyday? :tongue:
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I never said i don't like bland cars, I want my commuter to be bland and so blend into the bland euro box cumuters, its why i ordered a bland colour. :tongue: Modern cars are design by committee to ever increasing euro rules that both Influence design heavily to make 95% of them look bland. The mk3,mk4,mk5,mk6 are all bland euro boxes except it. :tongue:
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I never said i don't like bland cars now did i, I want it to blend into the bland euro box cumuters its why i ordered a bland colour :tongue:
I hear you...
I don't want to be driving something 'old' and 'unsafe' when sharing the roads everyday with blinkered fools in 2 1/2 tonne SUVs driving whilst blethering on their phones either...so it's a case of pick something the least bland as possible, from a p*ss poor styling selection.
Filtering out Japanese bland, French bland, assorted other bland, Just won't go there bland (Italian, Malaysian, Korean) and plastic-snob bland...and there isn't a lot left to choose from.
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:grin: and your nick's "Ess Three"
Each to their own but I was in between buying another Gti or my S3- my sister in law has a candy white gti 6 and everytime we visit I admire both vehicles from a distance- how one can say the s3 is bland and boring :undecided:sounds a bit like you're staring through "beer goggles" bud :grin: I love the look of the 6 but parked next to the S3 it looks like a MPV! Don't understand why it's build so "Top heavy" for a hot hatch... one wouldn't notice it on it's own but pull it alongside the s3 and all I can say is that the s3 looks race ready and stealth compared to das uber golf... :smug:
Looks 'race ready' eh?
Probably the least race ready car I've looked at in the last 15 years, in my mind.
It looks uber bland...typical current Audi. It could be any/every Audi coming towards you, and any A3 even close up.
It also happens to be boring as hell to drive. Almost too efficient…boring, boring, boring…with solid suspension, no steering feel and a dull chassis.
I used to own an 8L S3…when the ‘S’ meant bigger arches, completely different cars…but the current one is just another bland Audi designed to fit into the lifestyle of someone who thinks they are better than everybody else because they have an Audi…and for those reasons I’d not have one parked on my driveway.
I’ll leave those sorts of games to all the saddos that live nearby…
:grin: well bud not going to argue as looks are personal after all- some guys prefer blonds other brunettes so what the hell- yes, the s3's been around for a while now so it needs a "freshen" up but my ibis white S3 with the gunmetal twin spoke alloys and recaros looks damn hot next to the mk6 :laugh: what I'm getting at is that a car doesn't need to be flash to be sporty looking- imo bland as you call it kept the s3 timeless for many years and even though you might not agree after 7 years (8P models) it's still a good looking car. Look at Porsche- doesn't change much so one can also argue it's "boring" :huh: Today when I see a mk5 it looks very "dated" compared to the mk6 (no disrespect intended to mk5 owners as I'm an ex owner myself :) )
Wrt to the driving experience ... boring :rolleyes: I think it depends on what you're after- quattro gives new meaning to traction and power out of corners and driving with confidence in the wet... :evil: if you feel that excitement's in torque steer and wheel spinning into 3rd gear :evil: then maybe a JCW is a better option if you really want a FUN drive- the golf is after all also quite a "neutral" and well "balanced" fwd hatch and I'm sure a MINI driver will chirp that a gti is bland to drive .... :grin: Anyways the topic was about remapping- I have stage 1 REVO- makes the S3 the car it should have been out the factory- have no other mods planned at this stage as my car is still under warranty...
Disagree Gabrial, saw an S3 today parked up and had to spot that it wasn't a 1.6 it was so bland. Shame as I'd prefer AWD but I couldn't bear to drive something that looks that dull. However if they do a cracking job with the RS3 I might be tempted.
Just my opinion of course Gabrial and I respect yours.
Seems I agree with you...
I could buy a really nice spec S3 for £2000 more than a GTI with the deals they are offering at the moment.
A Golf R would cost me £8,000 more than a GTI. (R in a similar spec to the S3..buckets, sunroof etc)
Personally, I'd rather pay the £8,000 and have a Golf.
The RS3 would need a radical rethink over the S3 to make me interested I'm afraid...they'd need to make it interesting to drive, instead of just fast, for starters.
... :undecided:
Yes Gossa- I find that the new 8P S3's with the LED DRL's and new front end does look very generic to the A3 line up- a pity :undecided:
We're still waiting for the Golf R- from what I've read so far it sounds great but the price :shocked: Cannot justify it for das auto- and I actually prefer the Gti's looks over that of the R
I love my S3 and have no shame to have one in my drive way.... :grin:
(http://www.photostand.co.za/images/dhgrpuv0f1cx8k7p33_thumb.jpg) (http://www.photostand.co.za/viewer.php?file=dhgrpuv0f1cx8k7p33.jpg)
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Wrt to the driving experience ... boring :rolleyes: I think it depends on what you're after- quattro gives new meaning to traction and power out of corners and driving with confidence in the wet... :evil: if you feel that excitement's in torque steer and wheel spinning into 3rd gear :evil: then maybe a JCW is a better option if you really want a FUN drive- the golf is after all also quite a "neutral" and well "balanced" fwd hatch and I'm sure a MINI driver will chirp that a gti is bland to drive ....
I loved my 8L S3...but it was dull as dishwater...
You ended up going faster and faster trying to find the fun. It just wasn't there. It was quick though.
At least it looked like a 'proper' S car...unlike the 8P.
It just looks like a 1.6...
And in S-Line form, gives all the well-to-do Chavs the 4 rings they desire so much without buying the real deal...same people that had BMWs 6 years ago, and SUVs 3 years ago...they are fashionable with the wrong people round my way.
And for that reason, I just can't bring myself to buy one.
Atleast with a GTI you have some involvement at lower speeds...even if it's just fighting the laws of physics.
As for REVO vs Superchips...they are all 1s and 0s after all...just pick the one that drives nicest to you...they all make similar numbers and on the road performance is less relavant than driver skill.
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I find that BMW owners flocked to the mk5 and some to the mk6, that image is something i don't like. :evil:
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doesn't matter what you drive, a dick somewhere has one :laugh:
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Iirc in the Autocar review of the new Scirocco R the tested times were 0-60mph 5.7secs, 0-100mph 13.7 secs, 30-70mph 4.9 sec. Weight 1419 kg. 261 bhp at 6000 rpm, 258 ft at 2500 rpm.
Forgetting about aerodynamics etc a chipped GTI may have similar times as it will have similar power and torque.
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Not sure if this has been covered before.
What sort of % increase in insurance premiums are you guys who have remapped seeing.
Assuming you stay with the same company.
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:undecided: http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4105&page=2