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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: am1w on 08 February 2010, 19:40

Title: Winter Pack
Post by: am1w on 08 February 2010, 19:40
Quite a few orders are seemingly without the Winter Pack option.
In northern Europe, I feel this is an essential option and good value for £365.
What do you think?
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: p3eps on 08 February 2010, 19:47
I guess it depends what else you've specced?

I already have xenons and leather - which include the washer level warning, headlight washers and heated seats.
£300 odd for the winter pack seems like a total waste of money to me, as the only thing I'll get out of it is heated water jets. 
I'll give that a miss then!
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: mac7 on 08 February 2010, 19:55
£300 odd for the winter pack seems like a total waste of money to me, as the only thing I'll get out of it is heated water jets. 
I'll give that a miss then!

Should you feel you can't live without them, you'll probably be able to retro-fit them for less.
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: DDg on 08 February 2010, 20:28
The heated seats are great (cloth) - I'd want them again, and my jets haven't frozen so far this year, but maybe they wouldn't have anyway, with the nozzle tucked away out of the air-stream.
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: am1w on 08 February 2010, 20:49

I already have xenons and leather - which include the washer level warning, headlight washers and heated seats.
£300 odd for the winter pack seems like a total waste of money to me, as the only thing I'll get out of it is heated water jets. 
I'll give that a miss then!

I have ordered my GTi without Xenons or Leather as I felt both these options were overpriced. I prefer the look and comfort of cloth.

Regarding the leather interior, I quote from the VW price guide, 'some parts of leather interior will contain artificial leather.' £1815 for this is ridiculous. You can get a beautifully trimmed 'full leather' interior with your own choice of colour for approximately £1200. Besides, the leather trimmed seats look worn out and crinkled after a couple of months use and the heating seat element is quite ineffective with these leather timmed seats.

As for the Xenons, I could not care less!








Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: p3eps on 08 February 2010, 20:59
Xenons come as standard on the Golf R... but if they didn't I wouldn't hesitate about ticking the box for them!
Xenons are an absolute must have in my eyes.

Leather is over priced and not as good quality as it should be.  Everyone knows it - but putting a car in for an aftermarket leather job is not something I'd consider.  I got my leather for £1300 extra after a bit of negotiating with the dealer.  Cars with leather generally sell for approximately £1000 more than without according to the VW Used website...

ETTO though.
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: GolfTi on 08 February 2010, 20:59
I find the winter pack well worth the money.

Heated seats (especially with the jacara) are fantastic and worth the money on their own.
Low washer fluid warning - good, at a guess I'd say about 1 litre left when it lights up from a 5ish litre (instead of the normal 3ish) tank.
Heated jets - good.

Headlamp washers not so good and I've removed the fuse to stop mine working - the only thing that really annoyed me about my car.
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: am1w on 08 February 2010, 21:05
Xenons come as standard on the Golf R... but if they didn't I wouldn't hesitate about ticking the box for them!
Xenons are an absolute must have in my eyes.

Leather is over priced and not as good quality as it should be.  Everyone knows it - but putting a car in for an aftermarket leather job is not something I'd consider.  I got my leather for £1300 extra after a bit of negotiating with the dealer.  Cars with leather generally sell for approximately £1000 more than without according to the VW Used website...

ETTO though.

£1300 for part leather is nearly a bargain!
Good on you. :smiley:
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: am1w on 08 February 2010, 21:07
I find the winter pack well worth the money.

Heated seats (especially with the jacara) are fantastic and worth the money on their own.
Low washer fluid warning - good, at a guess I'd say about 1 litre left when it lights up from a 5ish litre (instead of the normal 3ish) tank.
Heated jets - good.

Headlamp washers not so good and I've removed the fuse to stop mine working - the only thing that really annoyed me about my car.

You are a man of taste. :smiley:
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: lowdown on 08 February 2010, 21:19
Hope this doesn't sound too controversial :evil: but I'm no lover of leather, and feel it is intrinsically a less than perfect material to sit on in a car- cool in winter, warm in summer.

However, I appreciate the "luxury" feel n smell it brings, and the durability. And it's the ultimate type of £urnishing.
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: GolfTi on 08 February 2010, 21:23
Hope this doesn't sound too controversial :evil: but I'm no lover of leather, and feel it is intrinsically a less than perfect material to sit on in a car- cool in winter, warm in summer.

However, I appreciate the "luxury" feel n smell it brings, and the durability. And it's the ultimate type of £urnishing.

I agree.
Been said many times before. Some love it, some hate it, I personally had it in my mk5 and hated it for the reasons you stated.
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: lowdown on 08 February 2010, 21:30
£1,815 for leather is quite incredible.
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: FamilyDub on 08 February 2010, 21:30
I have no MKVI on order, but if I did, leather and xenons don't appeal to me and not really needed on a GTi, imo.

Since the R sits as a more premium car, it makes more sense.

Should I be lucky enough to be able to buy a 2nd hand R one day, I would not accept no leather, but on a GTi I wouldn't want leather! 

What IS a winter pack anyway? :)
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: GolfTi on 08 February 2010, 21:31
£1,815 for leather is quite incredible.

I wouldn't want it if it was free. Honestly.
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: p3eps on 08 February 2010, 21:33
Back on topic - if I hadn't picked the leather seats (which I originally didn't until I found out the R seats get dirty easily!) I would have taken the Winter Pack.  The heated seats would have been worth it for me alone.

With Leather and Xenons, the Winter Pack is a waste of money.  With Cloth, its a necessity
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: am1w on 08 February 2010, 21:40
Hope this doesn't sound too controversial :evil: but I'm no lover of leather, and feel it is intrinsically a less than perfect material to sit on in a car- cool in winter, warm in summer.

However, I appreciate the "luxury" feel n smell it brings, and the durability. And it's the ultimate type of £urnishing.

I agree.
Been said many times before. Some love it, some hate it, I personally had it in my mk5 and hated it for the reasons you stated.

Unless leather is very soft and hence very expensive, I find it very uncomfortable to sit on both at home or in the car. I might eat beef, but I simply don't enjoy being seated on a Bucking Bronco or on a dead cow! :laugh:
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: Casabian on 08 February 2010, 22:11
Let me just get this straight and clarified for everyone am1w because you've only posted it a couple of times........ You don't like leather or xenons??? Is this correct??  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: lowdown on 08 February 2010, 22:17
approx £3k for these babies (xen + leather)-value?  Certainly breaks the 80/20 rule :nerd:
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: Casabian on 08 February 2010, 22:37
approx £3k for these babies (xen + leather)-value?  Certainly breaks the 80/20 rule :nerd:

Whats this rule you speak of???
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: am1w on 08 February 2010, 23:02
Let me just get this straight and clarified for everyone am1w because you've only posted it a couple of times........ You don't like leather or xenons??? Is this correct??  :grin: :grin:

Don't like the leather quality or leather on a Golf GTi.
Xenons - could not care less.
Are you satisfied with this answer? :rolleyes: :wink:
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: Nidari on 08 February 2010, 23:32
I didn't understand something , if you don't have xenons, but you have leather seats do you get the headlights washers ?
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: ajmoir36 on 09 February 2010, 08:37
I didn't understand something , if you don't have xenons, but you have leather seats do you get the headlights washers ?

No
Leather comes with heated seats.
Xenons comes with headlight washers and a 5 litre washer bottle.

Winter pack:
Headlight Washer jets + 5 litre washer bottle instead of 3 litre
Heated seats
Heated Washer Jets
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: Nidari on 09 February 2010, 09:15
Ok perfect  :smiley:
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: ajmoir36 on 09 February 2010, 19:53
Leather comes with heated seats.
Xenons comes with headlight washers and a 5 litre washer bottle.

Winter pack:
Headlight Washer jets + 5 litre washer bottle instead of 3 litre
Heated seats
Heated Washer Jets


Oh forgot the low washer bottle warning light.
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: VWKev on 09 February 2010, 20:33
The heated washer jets are not really as good as they sound. Yes its probably better in a mild day to have luke warm soapy water to clean your windows, but just incase anyone thinks it will defrost your windows on a freezing cold day... it wont.
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: Snoopy on 10 February 2010, 18:15
The heated washer jets just use a small ceramic disc in the jets as a heater, its not that effective and bloody expensive for what it is. I find myself its not the jets that freeze its the pipes, this normal only happens if your mixture of screen wash to water is low. So i was not bothered about them myself.
Heated seats with cloth i have never felt the need myself i find cloth seats comes upto body temp within seconds, maybe i just have a hot ass :grin: .
Alot of people on here complain about the headlamp washers but i know from experience how the mk5 is a real pain for getting very dirty headlights so i would spec the winter pack just for that option myself, If i had not treated myself to Xenons that is.
The low washer fluid level warning light now also comes with Xenons.
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: ajmoir36 on 10 February 2010, 19:41
I have to admit washing the headlights with the head light washer works well and makes quite a difference to dirty lights improving visibility no end.  I have it on my mk5 and its ordered for my GTD.  Wouldn't leave home without it.  Toasty seats are nice when it takes soo long for the car heater to get up to scratch especially when it was -15 degrees recently.
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: VWKev on 11 February 2010, 10:16
Is the heated wing mirrors not part of the winter pack ?
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: storming7530 on 11 February 2010, 10:31
Can you get the heated seat retro fitted ?
just bought mk6 gtd and wife loved the heated seats on her mk4, but I could not walk away from the deal i was offered on the pre reg mk 6
any help welcome
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: am1w on 11 February 2010, 10:58
Can you get the heated seat retro fitted ?
just bought mk6 gtd and wife loved the heated seats on her mk4, but I could not walk away from the deal i was offered on the pre reg mk 6
any help welcome

Yes you can. Could be expensive. Worth it, I feel.
Contact: http://www.autoaudio.uk.com/
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: storming7530 on 11 February 2010, 11:06
thanks am1w

wow they look expensive :

a bit far for me as i am in the north of scotland

but i will have to do some thing to keep mrs happy  :wink:
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: am1w on 11 February 2010, 11:12
thanks am1w

wow they look expensive :

a bit far for me as i am in the north of scotland

but i will have to do some thing to keep mrs happy  :wink:

There must be places close to you.
Ring Auto Audio as they might be able to tell you where to go nearer home.
Otherwise, ask your VW dealer.
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: Snoopy on 11 February 2010, 18:02
Is the heated wing mirrors not part of the winter pack ?
No there standard. I will quote from the price list what it says for the winter pack.
Winter pack
Headlamp washers, heated front seats, heated windscreen washer jets and low washer fluid warning light.
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: am1w on 11 February 2010, 22:20
Is the heated wing mirrors not part of the winter pack ?
No there standard. I will quote from the price list what it says for the winter pack.
Winter pack
Headlamp washers, heated front seats, heated windscreen washer jets and low washer fluid warning light.

Storming 7530 has bought a GTi without a Winter Pack.
I thought he just wants the heated seats for his 'missus' and also presumably for himself!
He does not seem too interested in the other bits and pieces in the Winter Pack.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: keelaw on 11 February 2010, 22:26
The low washer fluid level warning light now also comes with Xenons.

Must have missed this on my early car (wk 34).... shame as that would have been handy.

(unless I never noticed it! :laugh:)
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: Rolfe on 11 February 2010, 23:12
Oh, you'd have noticed!  I've been very surprised how quickly the car goes through the washer fluid and that light comes on.  It's no great hassle to fill it up, but I practically never had to do that on my previous cars, the reservoir was just filled when they were serviced.

Rolfe.
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: VWKev on 11 February 2010, 23:41
Is the heated wing mirrors not part of the winter pack ?
No there standard. I will quote from the price list what it says for the winter pack.
Winter pack
Headlamp washers, heated front seats, heated windscreen washer jets and low washer fluid warning light.

Storming 7530 has bought a GTi without a Winter Pack.
I thought he just wants the heated seats for his 'missus' and also presumably for himself!
He does not seem too interested in the other bits and pieces in the Winter Pack.
Please correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks, I spec'd the winter pack and i can never bloody remember whats part of it  :grin:
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: Rolfe on 11 February 2010, 23:59
I don't know why they bother giving us the option of not having it, in Scotland!

Rolfe.
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: Snoopy on 12 February 2010, 11:25
Must have missed this on my early car (wk 34).... shame as that would have been handy.
It only popped up on the options/price list the last couple of revisions. Im guessing it was a build week 46 change or there abouts even though it was not listed as such to the dealers.
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: gizzywizzy on 12 February 2010, 17:30
Oh, you'd have noticed!  I've been very surprised how quickly the car goes through the washer fluid and that light comes on.  It's no great hassle to fill it up, but I practically never had to do that on my previous cars, the reservoir was just filled when they were serviced.

Rolfe.

+1 mine seems to be forever running out, for a 5 litre bottle it seems to not hold much.
Gizzy
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: keelaw on 12 February 2010, 18:37
I don't know why they bother giving us the option of not having it, in Scotland!

Rolfe.


Because the Scots are usually tight with their money?! :p

Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: keelaw on 12 February 2010, 18:39
I don't know why they bother giving us the option of not having it, in Scotland!

Rolfe.


Because the Scots are usually tight with their money?! :p

Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: am1w on 12 February 2010, 19:26
I don't know why they bother giving us the option of not having it, in Scotland!

Rolfe.
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Because the Scots are usually tight with their money?! :p
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I am not a Scot, but your comment is absolutely unacceptable and wrong. :angry: :shocked:
The Scots are the kindest and most generous people I have had the pleasure of dealing with and doing business with. They are an honest, effecient, well educated, very hard working and very warm people.
You really should apologise to Rolfe.
Shame on you.
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: SilverChariot on 12 February 2010, 19:37
Leather comes with heated seats.
Xenons comes with headlight washers and a 5 litre washer bottle.

Winter pack:
Headlight Washer jets + 5 litre washer bottle instead of 3 litre
Heated seats
Heated Washer Jets

Oh forgot the low washer bottle warning light.

On the R it's even more of a waste of money if you take leather. The R comes with Xenons as standard (thus headlight washer jets + bigger washer bottle). Leather includes heated seats.

So, Winter Pack is just heated washer jets for £200+

:rolleyes:
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: Snoopy on 12 February 2010, 19:50
I don't know why they bother giving us the option of not having it, in Scotland!
Rolfe.
How about us in the North of England. The ones that always get forgot about as southeners think manchester is north!
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: keelaw on 12 February 2010, 21:00
I don't know why they bother giving us the option of not having it, in Scotland!
Rolfe.
How about us in the North of England. The ones that alway get forgot about as southeners think manchester is north!


Birmingham is North enough thank you!!   :evil:
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: Steve30 on 12 February 2010, 21:20
I don't know why they bother giving us the option of not having it, in Scotland!
Rolfe.
How about us in the North of England. The ones that alway get forgot about as southeners think manchester is north!
Birmingham is North enough thank you!!   :evil:

well i'm from sunny Burnley Keelaw!! Nothing wrong with us from up north lad, we are very friendly .

The scott's are great people , behave yourself  :wink:

Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: p3eps on 12 February 2010, 21:55
On the R it's even more of a waste of money if you take leather. The R comes with Xenons as standard (thus headlight washer jets + bigger washer bottle). Leather includes heated seats.

So, Winter Pack is just heated washer jets for £200+

Yet you still have it on your spec!  £200+ would have almost got you Dynaudio instead - something far more worthy of the cash!

The scott's are great people , behave yourself  :wink:

Yessshh... they are  :cool:
Och eye the noo!!!!
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: p3asa on 13 February 2010, 16:12
Can you get the heated seat retro fitted ?
just bought mk6 gtd and wife loved the heated seats on her mk4, but I could not walk away from the deal i was offered on the pre reg mk 6
any help welcome

Yes you can http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p1355_Seat-Heating---Harness---VW-Golf-VI-6.html (http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p1355_Seat-Heating---Harness---VW-Golf-VI-6.html) 49Euros apparently
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: VWKev on 14 February 2010, 01:40
I live in Glasgow and unfortunately some of the Scots are proper w@nkers. I mean proper w@nkers

I supposed each city will have their lowlifes.
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: storming7530 on 14 February 2010, 09:38
 thanks p3asa

thats what i been looking for

do you know any thing about that company

Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: am1w on 14 February 2010, 11:41
thanks p3asa

thats what i been looking for

do you know any thing about that company

I wonder whether we can also get the rear seats heated, though there might be problems of running the appropriate wiring looms to the rear seats.
The cost of the part from KUFATEC seems very reasonable.
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: danski on 14 February 2010, 14:19
I`d been wondering about that too, my current Passat has heated rear seats, not that I need them for the back really.
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: am1w on 14 February 2010, 14:58
I`d been wondering about that too, my current Passat has heated rear seats, not that I need them for the back really.

Should we start a new thread? :wink:
You first. :smiley:
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: mac7 on 14 February 2010, 16:04
Can you get the heated seat retro fitted ?
just bought mk6 gtd and wife loved the heated seats on her mk4, but I could not walk away from the deal i was offered on the pre reg mk 6
any help welcome

Yes you can http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p1355_Seat-Heating---Harness---VW-Golf-VI-6.html (http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p1355_Seat-Heating---Harness---VW-Golf-VI-6.html) 49Euros apparently

Yes, but apart from the wiring harnesses you're going to need some heating elements to go in the seats, or maybe even new seats, plus a new climatronic panel so you can switch them on and off. There's bound to be some re-coding in there too. All-in, not so cheap.
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: am1w on 14 February 2010, 16:39
Can you get the heated seat retro fitted ?
just bought mk6 gtd and wife loved the heated seats on her mk4, but I could not walk away from the deal i was offered on the pre reg mk 6
any help welcome

Yes you can http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p1355_Seat-Heating---Harness---VW-Golf-VI-6.html (http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p1355_Seat-Heating---Harness---VW-Golf-VI-6.html) 49Euros apparently

Yes, but apart from the wiring harnesses you're going to need some heating elements to go in the seats, or maybe even new seats, plus a new climatronic panel so you can switch them on and off. There's bound to be some re-coding in there too. All-in, not so cheap.

I know, I know! :wink:
Title: Re: Winter Pack +
Post by: RickS on 15 February 2010, 13:40
You're not that tight surely p3eps?  :laugh: Spending all that money and missing out on heated washer jets for the sake of another £365, when you've had the car a while you'll wish you'd got them. Trust me, get the heated washers and damn the expense. You only live once [or twice in the case of Meester Bond]

Anyway, great news for me! My GTi was manufactured last week and is awaiting shipping, hoping to get it for "10" plate coming out during week commencing 1st March. It's been a hell of a wait and I'm really getting excited now I know the car is ready.

 :smiley:
Title: Re: Winter Pack
Post by: p3asa on 15 February 2010, 14:36
thanks p3asa

thats what i been looking for

do you know any thing about that company



I personally don't know anything about the company but they are well known.

I emailed them about the harness as they said in their advert to ask for more details but unfortunately they couldn't help me any further.