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Title: VW Golf Mk7 (2012): Mule spy photos
Post by: fantazia92 on 07 February 2010, 00:36
From Car website:

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-new-cars/Search-Results/Spyshots/VW-Golf-Mk7-2012-mule-spy-photos/ (http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-new-cars/Search-Results/Spyshots/VW-Golf-Mk7-2012-mule-spy-photos/)

The engines on the new 2012 VW Golf Mk7

The petrol engine range is expected to look like this:

• 1.2TSI, 86bhp/120lb ft
• 1.2TSI, 105bhp/130lb ft
• 1.4TSI, 122bhp/150lb ft
• 1.4TSI, 160bhp/185lb ft
• 2.0TSI, 180bhp/240lb ft
• 2.0TSI GTI, 220bhp/260lb ft
• 2.0TSI R 4Motion, 300bhp/295lb ft

The diesels meanwhile will line up like this:

• 1.6TDI, 90bhp/170lb ft
• 1.6TDI, 105bhp/185lb ft
• 2.0TDI, 140bhp/240lb ft
• 2.0TDI, 170bhp/260lb ft
• 2.0TDI GTD 4Motion, 220bhp/330lb ft


Title: Re: VW Golf Mk7 (2012): Mule spy photos
Post by: VmW on 07 February 2010, 03:55
Whatever happened to the 5-6 year cycle between re-designs?  I just got my Mk6 and their planning a thorough revamp for release in 2 1/2 years time! :sad:  Oh well...

I hope that the Golf does get shorter front overhangs...
Title: Re: VW Golf Mk7 (2012): Mule spy photos
Post by: Snoopy on 07 February 2010, 09:46
Goverment CO2 and everything is moving at a faster speed nowadays VW has had to adopt Japanese time scales.
I expect the engine range will be a little different to that and involve alot more hybrids to reduce CO2 output.
As they codeveloped a 1.6 twin charger unit when they developed the 1.4 i thought they may start intorducing it by the mk7 unless they canned it.
Title: Re: VW Golf Mk7 (2012): Mule spy photos
Post by: ub7rm on 07 February 2010, 11:16
Whatever happened to the 5-6 year cycle between re-designs?  I just got my Mk6 and their planning a thorough revamp for release in 2 1/2 years time! :sad:  Oh well...

I hope that the Golf does get shorter front overhangs...

The mk5 gold was released in 2004 - so actually it is an 8 year cycle.  The mk6 is a facelift / improvement on the mk5 but the nuts and bolts underneath are the same.  The mk7 is supposed to be an 'all new' car.
Title: Re: VW Golf Mk7 (2012): Mule spy photos
Post by: JellyCat on 07 February 2010, 16:19
The GTI with an 220BHP? Doesn't sound mutch but I also read somewhere that it'll be a lighter car too.

Also re a 5 pot engine - nah doubt they'd ever put something like that into a Golf again, suspect also that would overshaddow any RS3 that was brought out. So the Golf R would slot perfect under an RS but about the same as the S3.

But will no doubt change right up to the time it's released. But if they put up the prices again in time foe for the mk7..... ouch!!!!
I think I'll get an RS3 when they come out.

Title: Re: VW Golf Mk7 (2012): Mule spy photos
Post by: ub7rm on 07 February 2010, 17:14
To be honest I think the engine line up is pure speculation.  They are probably assuming that since mk5 to mk6 power increase was 10 bhp the same will be true mk6 to mk7.  I can see where they are coming from but its still finger in the air stuff.

The other thing that struck me is if a 1.4TSI can generate 160 bhp, what would be the point in offering a 2.0TSI (FSI surely not TSI?!) for only another 20 bhp and a lot more carbons / fuel consumption?  Thats why I don't believe that part of the article.
Title: Re: VW Golf Mk7 (2012): Mule spy photos
Post by: VmW on 07 February 2010, 18:11
Whatever happened to the 5-6 year cycle between re-designs?  I just got my Mk6 and their planning a thorough revamp for release in 2 1/2 years time! :sad:  Oh well...

I hope that the Golf does get shorter front overhangs...

The mk5 gold was released in 2004 - so actually it is an 8 year cycle.  The mk6 is a facelift / improvement on the mk5 but the nuts and bolts underneath are the same.  The mk7 is supposed to be an 'all new' car.

Fair point ub7rm.
Title: Re: VW Golf Mk7 (2012): Mule spy photos
Post by: percymon on 08 February 2010, 10:24
The other thing that struck me is if a 1.4TSI can generate 160 bhp, what would be the point in offering a 2.0TSI (FSI surely not TSI?!) for only another 20 bhp and a lot more carbons / fuel consumption?  Thats why I don't believe that part of the article.

because the 160bhp is as flat as a pancake when caught off boost - fine if you like stiring the engine, but plenty of folk complaining about lack of performance and more complaining about their mpg.

Think the numbers are a bit in the air though - whilst a lot of the diesels are relatively new i can't see them keeping the power levels the same, not with the new Focus looming and that has some good engine technology apparently. Pity the interior is awful.
Title: Re: VW Golf Mk7 (2012): Mule spy photos
Post by: Adam on 08 February 2010, 12:44
220bhp 4motion diesel?!

Wow
Title: Re: VW Golf Mk7 (2012): Mule spy photos
Post by: VWKev on 08 February 2010, 13:36
I cant believe those figures are correct. Why would anyone buy a GTI ?
Title: Re: VW Golf Mk7 (2012): Mule spy photos
Post by: squirrelGTi on 08 February 2010, 13:55
I cant believe those figures are correct. Why would anyone buy a GTI ?

I agree. The Diesel surely would be more like 200-210 bhp and the Petrol 220-230 bhp.

Title: Re: VW Golf Mk7 (2012): Mule spy photos
Post by: Tailpipe on 08 February 2010, 17:09
I share the mild irritation that VW is releasing the Mk 7 so soon after the Mk 6. IThe Mk 6 was always intended to push back the launch of the Mk 7, but in reality it looks like nothing has changed.

In terms of engine specifications, I believe that the engine sizes are correct, but the outputs are unconfirmed. I would imagine that the GTI will get 235-245 bhp, not 220 bhp. The next Ford Focus ST, RS models are bound to get healthy upgrades. VW will have to do likewise.

A Mk 7 R with 300 bhp sounds very nice. BTW, Someone has managed to re-chip an Audi TT-RS with the -cylinder TFSI and get 400+ bhp.