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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: woweegti on 05 February 2010, 22:37

Title: V5 Document ?
Post by: woweegti on 05 February 2010, 22:37
Ok

Just received my V5C today, checked it over and noticed that in section '3 Special Notes' it says

"1. Declared new in GB by Independent Importer".

My question is whether anyone else has this on their V5C?

The car was originally purchased new from a UK dealer and the previous owner was the first owner, but I dont remember seeing this 'note' when I read the original V5C (could have just missed it).

I have had an imported car in the past and the V5C never mentioned importing.

Probably nothing to worry about, but just seems odd?
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: Saint Steve on 05 February 2010, 22:46
Car is an Import
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: woweegti on 05 February 2010, 22:51
By a UK VW Dealer ?
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: jamesgti22 on 06 February 2010, 14:00
My car is an import from Holland (100% UK spec) and it just says under special notes "Declared new at first registration"
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: clint4one on 06 February 2010, 14:44
Mine is a full UK spec import from Cyprus and says 'Declared new at first registration'
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: woweegti on 06 February 2010, 17:42
Thanks guys.

Well I've spoken to the VW dealer and even the salesman that dealt with the original sale. They were very helpful.
They confirmed (on the VW system) that the car is UK registered and should not be making any reference to being an import on the V5. They'd not really heard of this phrase before.
The car was PDI'd by them and all the paperwork and the system points to not being an import.
They've told me to get in touch with VW Care to see if they could dig a little deeper on Monday.

Also spoke to the previous owner (good guy). He said that the note has always been on the V5 but it never bothered him as he had spec'd and ordered the car brand new from a VW dealer.

I will probably give the DVLA a ring Monday, could be a mistake in the original registering of the car?

I know its probably not a major issue (they all come from Wolfsburg), but would just like to know what the statement is supposed to mean, and whether the statement is correct.

Anyone else have this 'special note'?
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: 2007GTI on 06 February 2010, 19:00
Sound like a DVLA f|_|ck up, someone doing a copy and paste.

I would get it in writing from VW that its not an import and then write to the DVLA, enclosing the original V5 (take a photocopy) and ask them to change it.
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: woweegti on 07 February 2010, 10:04
Sound like a DVLA f|_|ck up, someone doing a copy and paste.

I would get it in writing from VW that its not an import and then write to the DVLA, enclosing the original V5 (take a photocopy) and ask them to change it.

Yeah possibly. I'm going to give them a call in the morning.
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: woweegti on 08 February 2010, 22:23
DVLA say write to them.

So I sent them a letter today (+ V5) explaining everything.

They say that I will probably hear something in 20 to 30 working days!

Will post back when I get feedback from them.
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: jaydubveedub on 09 February 2010, 07:47
Good luck!

DVLA are a bunch of wasters. Took them 2 months to send me a cheque for a road tax rebate.

I had to keep calling them every week to chase them up.
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: Wayne on 09 February 2010, 15:20
I very much doubt the DVLA is wrong, your car is an import if it is then the value will be less.
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: 2007GTI on 09 February 2010, 17:15
DVLA are well know for screwing things up big time, did you see that thing on Watchdog where they sent out driving licenses with the right name, but not that person's photos!   :grin:

I very much doubt the DVLA is wrong, your car is an import if it is then the value will be less.
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: DPG on 09 February 2010, 17:29
DVLA are a set of idiots, twice my MOT certificate came back with the wrong detils after a number plate change.

Keep perstering them until they sort it out.
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: woweegti on 09 February 2010, 19:12
I very much doubt the DVLA is wrong, your car is an import if it is then the value will be less.

So based on what I have posted, this is your opinion  :huh:.

I will wait and see what I get back from the DVLA. As far as I am concerned it is pretty much a mistake.

However, just because a car is an import it doesn't neccessarily affect the value of the vehicle.

I'm sure a whole new thread could be started on that one (parallel v grey imports). :smiley:
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: orca on 09 February 2010, 20:04
I very much doubt the DVLA is wrong, your car is an import if it is then the value will be less.
However, just because a car is an import it doesn't neccessarily affect the value of the vehicle.

I'm sure a whole new thread could be started on that one (parallel v grey imports). :smiley:

I'm afraid to say it does affect the price although it shouldnt.  I've got a parallel import and looking at getting a new car and every dealer I've been to is screwing me over.  Ranging from 1000-2000 less than the Glass's guide value.  Maybe I am just unlucky.
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: Wayne on 10 February 2010, 11:10
I very much doubt the DVLA is wrong, your car is an import if it is then the value will be less.

So based on what I have posted, this is your opinionĀ  :huh:.

I will wait and see what I get back from the DVLA. As far as I am concerned it is pretty much a mistake.

However, just because a car is an import it doesn't neccessarily affect the value of the vehicle.

I'm sure a whole new thread could be started on that one (parallel v grey imports). :smiley:

I cannot see the DVLA getting that wrong, yes have seen cock ups over the year but nothing that major and as above if it is a import the value will be less.
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: 2007GTI on 10 February 2010, 16:15
If you can get the bill of sale from when it was new from
supplying VW dealer, that would over ride any V5 errors.
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: woweegti on 10 February 2010, 17:16
If you can get the bill of sale from when it was new from
supplying VW dealer, that would over ride any V5 errors.

Yeah ,
sent them a copy of the original handover sheet signed by the dealer and the customer, and also a copy of the service book for the first PDI done by the UK dealer. Plus the telephone numbers of VW Care and VW Dealer Salesman.

Also sent a copy of the HPI that I done on the car which seemed a bit confused about the reg plates of the car.
The car has only had 1 private plate but the HPI also refers to the previous car that the private plate was on and that reg being on my car  :huh:?!. There may have been an error/confusion on a previous reg transfer to the gti.

In the past I have noticed that you can't always only bank on all of the HPI information as there is sometimes a minor error or it is not quite upto date. For example, the private plate was removed from the car early december but late January some companies incl. the AA could not find the car by its current reg.

I also have a copy of the last reg transfer on the car, but didn't send this as I didn't think it was relevant (and forgot :smiley:).
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: Primus84 on 10 February 2010, 17:16
I'd say giving someone the incorrect photo on their driving licence is much more serious than this error. I can totally see this being a DVLA mistake, there's all kinds of errors in their information

I very much doubt the DVLA is wrong, your car is an import if it is then the value will be less.

So based on what I have posted, this is your opinion  :huh:.

I will wait and see what I get back from the DVLA. As far as I am concerned it is pretty much a mistake.

However, just because a car is an import it doesn't neccessarily affect the value of the vehicle.

I'm sure a whole new thread could be started on that one (parallel v grey imports). :smiley:

I cannot see the DVLA getting that wrong, yes have seen cock ups over the year but nothing that major and as above if it is a import the value will be less.
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: JonnyG on 10 February 2010, 22:06
I cannot see the DVLA getting that wrong, yes have seen cock ups over the year but nothing that major and as above if it is a import the value will be less.

LoL ... you obviously did'nt watch Watchdog last year  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

One guy was not allowed to ride his motorbike and had to resit his test because the DVLA cocked up and had'nt ticked the "motorcycle" category on his new license.  The DVLA refused to admit their error and correct their mistake  :sick:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/watchdog/2009/04/dvla_removing_license_entitlem.html

and he was'nt the only one  :laugh:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/watchdog/2009/05/dvla_update.html
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: Wayne on 10 February 2010, 23:24
I cannot see the DVLA getting that wrong, yes have seen cock ups over the year but nothing that major and as above if it is a import the value will be less.

LoL ... you obviously did'nt watch Watchdog last year  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

One guy was not allowed to ride his motorbike and had to resit his test because the DVLA cocked up and had'nt ticked the "motorcycle" category on his new license.  The DVLA refused to admit their error and correct their mistake  :sick:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/watchdog/2009/04/dvla_removing_license_entitlem.html

and he was'nt the only one  :laugh:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/watchdog/2009/05/dvla_update.html

We have to 1st register vehicles new where I work, the form you have to fill out is complex but the paperwork that has to be sent back with the form includes proof that it is new in this country, hence why I said and I will stand by what I said that I cannot see the dvla getting this wrong, yes I know about the driving license issues etc but this is a different ball game.
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: AlanD on 11 February 2010, 10:59
However, just because a car is an import it doesn't neccessarily affect the value of the vehicle.

Sorry but thats wrong. If the car does indeed turn out to be an import it WILL be worth less.
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: smartypants on 11 February 2010, 14:09
Its worth as much as someone is prepared to pay
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: JonnyG on 11 February 2010, 22:11
We have to 1st register vehicles new where I work, the form you have to fill out is complex but the paperwork that has to be sent back with the form includes proof that it is new in this country, hence why I said and I will stand by what I said that I cannot see the dvla getting this wrong, yes I know about the driving license issues etc but this is a different ball game.

I hear what you're saying but there are many people with imports who do not have this "special note" on the V5.  The car in question is not newly registered, so it could be a DVLA mistake when preparing the newer V5 after transferring owners.

I could'nt see the DVLA losing over 100,000 blank V5 forms but yes they did  :rolleyes:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_west/7509408.stm

Now that is a different ball game altogether  :grin:
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: AlanD on 12 February 2010, 10:07
Its worth as much as someone is prepared to pay

lol yes but I think your missing the point a bit.

If you have 2 cars that are the same, ones an import ones a UK original the UK car is worth more and demands more money. Good luck trying to con them into paying more for the import.
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: Egbutt Wash on 12 February 2010, 13:03
Over the last 13 years I've imported 8 vehicles, each brand new.  The V5 does not say they are imports.  My service history is stamped in English, the PDI stamp stays with me.  I've never had a problem selling at UK price.

Each vehicle was standard spec.  Each standard spec was higher than the poverty spec sold to us in the UK.
For example, my GTI came with cruise and a centre armrest as standard.

My three reasons for importing are 1/ Save money, 2/ Better spec, 3/ Crappy UK dealers
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: raptorSE on 12 February 2010, 13:55
I would want something in writing aswell mate dont want any hassle when you decide to sell it.
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: smartypants on 12 February 2010, 21:00
Its worth as much as someone is prepared to pay

lol yes but I think your missing the point a bit.

If you have 2 cars that are the same, ones an import ones a UK original the UK car is worth more and demands more money. Good luck trying to con them into paying more for the import.

What if the import was formerly owned by Angelina Jolie? :D
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: AlanD on 13 February 2010, 13:03
Then I would sniff the seats . . . .
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: smartypants on 14 February 2010, 11:24
LOL
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: woweegti on 26 April 2010, 20:56
Hi guys

I know this has been a while (over 2 months in fact), but i received a phone call from a very pleasant man from the DVLA today.

He apologised for the issue taking so long to resolve, but they were waiting on information from other departments.

He confirmed that there was no reason for the statement to be on my V5 as the car is NOT an import.  :grin: The statement will be updated to read 'New at first registration' (or words to that effect).

So it does pay to question something that doesnt feel right.

I know now that I wont have any dodgy queries when I come to sell the car.

Hope my experience is of help to someone.

Thanks for all your support  :wink:
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: Wayne on 26 April 2010, 21:46
Has to be a reason it was put on the logbook in the 1st place.
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: woweegti on 26 April 2010, 22:01
Has to be a reason it was put on the logbook in the 1st place.


DVLA say it was a genuine mistake and that they do happen.

So no specific reason.
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: 2007GTI on 26 April 2010, 22:25
told you, copy and paste error  :nerd:
Title: Re: V5 Document ?
Post by: Wayne on 27 April 2010, 00:05
told you, copy and paste error  :nerd:

Yes but have you ever seen the paperwork needed to 1st reg a car, if you did then you would see why I am struggling to believe they got it wrong.