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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: DonnieDarko on 03 February 2010, 19:17
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Has anyone heard anything?
I phoned the parts dept at my local dealer an am having rear parks and cruise control next week. I also asked about the RNS510 (I won't be getting off VW) but he told me they have all th. Details on a new soon to be released Kenwood integrated sat nav. He would expand much or tell me prices but it Is due very soon (final sign off from VW) and it does have full 7-digit postcode (like a 10 year old Tomtom!)
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Maybe a dealer fit accessory? Doubt it'll be a factory fitted thing.
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Hmmm, interesting.
Back last year Pioneer launched the F9110BT that was supposedly going to be sold in VW dealers. I've not heard much about it since (unless it's sold overseas by VW dealers?)
http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/pioneer-avic-f9110bt.html
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Has anyone heard anything?
I phoned the parts dept at my local dealer an am having rear parks and cruise control next week. I also asked about the RNS510 (I won't be getting off VW) but he told me they have all th. Details on a new soon to be released Kenwood integrated sat nav. He would expand much or tell me prices but it Is due very soon (final sign off from VW) and it does have full 7-digit postcode (like a 10 year old Tomtom!)
Try OEM Retrofits.
http://www.oemretrofits.co.uk/
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If i remember i will ask kenwood at the trade show in March.
There is also http://www.zenec.com/index.php?id=122&L=1
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If i remember i will ask kenwood at the trade show in March.
There is also http://www.zenec.com/index.php?id=122&L=1
The Zenec is a bit too shiny for the Golf facia.
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http://www.zenec.com/index.php?id=205&L=1
A video about the zenec.
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http://www.zenec.com/index.php?id=205&L=1
A video about the zenec.
Looks good
http://www.zenec.com/index.php?id=335&L=1
But I think I will get the RNS 510 from OEM Retrofits for approximately £620.
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Looks good
http://www.zenec.com/index.php?id=335&L=1
But I think I will get the RNS 510 from OEM Retrofits for approximately£620.
Good luck :grin:
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Looks good
http://www.zenec.com/index.php?id=335&L=1
But I think I will get the RNS 510 from OEM Retrofits for approximately£620.
Good luck :grin:
Probably need it!
They seem quite knowledgeable and come down to London once a month to fit the Sat Navs. :grin:
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I can't make up my mind now- OEMretros doing fiscon + rns510 would be about a grand and be BCD and OEM, but the partial postcode Finding would be pants- I'd hate to pay that money and still end up using my Tomtom 940!
I'll probably go with the kenwood, as for around £1300 you get blue tooth phone and music streaming, and a generally better satnav, bigger screen too, will still work with the steering wheel and rear view camera if I get one
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I can't make up my mind now- OEMretros doing fiscon + rns510 would be about a grand and be BCD and OEM, but the partial postcode Finding would be pants- I'd hate to pay that money and still end up using my Tomtom 940!
I'll probably go with the kenwood, as for around £1300 you get blue tooth phone and music streaming, and a generally better satnav, bigger screen too, will still work with the steering wheel and rear view camera if I get one
I know how you feel.
The RNS510 has too many niggling problems. What really annoys me is the partial post code search.
Have you thought of the Zenec system which you can buy from Car Audio Security for £899.99? This is an all inclusive price less the fitting. Brilliant company for Sat Nav fitting. They also sell Kenwood, Pioneer and others.
http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/products_id/12332.html
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Well I've ordered the kenwood, unit, iPhone connection for charging, integrated parrot Bluetooth phone integration of steering wheel buttons etc fitted for £1300 brand new from Road Radio in Crawley/ Redhill
pretty much the same as a reconditioned mfd3 with fiscon and iPod connection, but for my money better sat nav and bigger screen. Gadget show's top pick too :)
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Probably need it!
They seem quite knowledgeable and come down to London once a month to fit the Sat Navs. :grin:
Have they actually answered your enquiry if you have contacted them?
There was a thread running on either this forum or another VW forum and they were basically un-contactable. No amount of emails or phone calls would see them making a reply!!!
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Probably need it!
They seem quite knowledgeable and come down to London once a month to fit the Sat Navs. :grin:
Have they actually answered your enquiry if you have contacted them?
There was a thread running on either this forum or another VW forum and they were basically un-contactable. No amount of emails or phone calls would see them making a reply!!!
Yes, I have spoken to them many times.
Their names are Arfan and Hamza.
Last time I spoke to them was at the beginning of January 2010
OEM Retrofits - Arfan/Hamza - Tel Nos 01274214254 / 07932245246 / 07973405351
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Well I've ordered the kenwood, unit, iPhone connection for charging, integrated parrot Bluetooth phone integration of steering wheel buttons etc fitted for £1300 brand new from Road Radio in Crawley/ Redhill
Which unit did you go for?
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top of the range kenwood- :cool:
http://www.roadradio.com/Kenwood/DNX9240BT/
roll on Saturday
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top of the range kenwood- :cool:
http://www.roadradio.com/Kenwood/DNX9240BT/
roll on Saturday
dont mean to pee on your bonfire donnie, but what exactly does that unit offer better than the rns510 other than a slightly wider screen and full postcode search... for double the money?? not to mention a very aftermarket look? :huh:
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It's got built in parrot Bluetooth (so no need for fiscon @ £380), full 7" screen so no buttons either side, and iPod connectivity cable kit (£200 ish)
main thing for me is the full postcode, as I hated the short version on bmws.
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It's got built in parrot Bluetooth (so no need for fiscon @ £380), full 7" screen so no buttons either side, and iPod connectivity cable kit (£200 ish)
main thing for me is the full postcode, as I hated the short version on bmws.
Im quite sure the fiscon can be fitted for £300-£350. although it can be annoying not having full post code search... having the street name and house number will get you direct to the door. Ipod connectivity cable is std anyway as far as i know. Did you know you can import all your favourite addresses from google maps to the RNS510 via the SD card also.
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top of the range kenwood- :cool:
http://www.roadradio.com/Kenwood/DNX9240BT/
roll on Saturday
Oh... I assumed from the title that it was going to be an RNS510 direct replacement - in that it wouldn't need an aftermarket fascia adapter. I guess you'll need to fork out for a CanBus adapter to get that to work too?
My Fiscon was £300 as theres a forum discount - but if you can get to them they'll fit it for £300.
I'll stick with the RNS510 - as it looks OEM and is less likely to get torn straight out of my dashboard by tea leafs!
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top of the range kenwood- :cool:
http://www.roadradio.com/Kenwood/DNX9240BT/
roll on Saturday
dont mean to pee on your bonfire donnie, but what exactly does that unit offer better than the rns510 other than a slightly wider screen and full postcode search... for double the money?? not to mention a very aftermarket look? :huh:
Has a very cheap aftermarket look, I must admit. :huh:
Probably get stolen much more quickly too, especially if you live in Leeds! :evil: :laugh:
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I would take that kenwood over any OEM blaupunkt VW offer but thats just me. But im biased as I have been involved in the highend aftermarket audio game for over 18 years.
Heres a photo from the kenwood scirocco demo car from the trade show last year.
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/DSC00269.jpg)
It looked far far far better in person, I was trying to highlight the faults when i took the photos :wink:
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That actually looks pretty slick, but i still prefer the oem stuff.
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That actually looks pretty slick, but i still prefer the oem stuff.
Have to agree. the OEM unit buttons match up nicely with the interior etc. after market is just a target for theives and never quite look right anyway.
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OEM is a big target nowadays for theft its not like they cannot get it out easy and sell it on ebay to all these VW owners that want to upgrade :wink:
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OEM is a big target nowadays for theft its not like they cannot get it out easy and sell it on ebay to all these VW owners that want to upgrade :wink:
Agreed. However the market for aftermarket stereo's is much greater... you are very limited to whom you can sell to if you nick a VW nav.
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I know what you meen but there is a huge market for OEM now. According to Northumbria police they say its the in thing at the moment VW satnav and VW airbags! You maybe interested to know according to the trade magazine the market for oem upgrades is more than the market for aftermarket at the moment and has been for quite a while and its why some of the aftermarket brands are now doing OEM look and fit or developing such.
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It's pretty annoying that even after years of issues relating to ICE theft the manufacturers of the VW unit don't provide it with anything like a decent security feature...it surely can't be that difficult to do something, especially considering the prices they charge for the RNS510
Do any of the aftermarket units come with decent security features? (just incase my RNS ends up "disappearing")
Simon
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Oh... I assumed from the title that it was going to be an RNS510 direct replacement - in that it wouldn't need an aftermarket fascia adapter. I guess you'll need to fork out for a CanBus adapter to get that to work too?
yes my original question was if anyone had heard of the official VW kenwood branded nav kit that was due out soon- according to the guy in VW parts near me. No-one seemed to have heard anything, I realised I have no ability to wait for anything so went for this one.
Will let you know how it turns out- I agree on the OEM look, and was close to ordering from OEMretrofit.
In the end features won it- full postcode, and I'm now getting the kenwood freeview tv tuner too for another couple of hundred :)
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Does the kenwood come with a HD?
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I would take that kenwood over any OEM blaupunkt VW offer but thats just me. But im biased as I have been involved in the highend aftermarket audio game for over 18 years.
Heres a photo from the kenwood scirocco demo car from the trade show last year.
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/DSC00269.jpg)
It looked far far far better in person, I was trying to highlight the faults when i took the photos :wink:
Snoopy:
Looks ok in a Scirocco I must admit, not so sure sure in a Golf.
I, myself, will probably go for for an RNS 510 from OEM Retrofits.
Will contact you for advice before I make a final decision.
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Does the kenwood come with a HD?
no hdd, which would be useful for others, but I have a iPod and iPhone so don't need it. I can see how that would put some off.
I think it will look better in a golf- as the fascia will be the same colour as the dash- not silver as in that photo
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Does the kenwood come with a HD?
no hdd, which would be useful for others, but I have a iPod and iPhone so don't need it. I can see how that would put some off.
I think it will look better in a golf- as the fascia will be the same colour as the dash- not silver as in that photo
Over £1k and no HD?? Thats very expensive for something that you then have to link to your ipod afterwards. The RNS510 is linked in and charges through the cable in the armrest.. whilst all tracks and info are on screen. tbh I am really struggling to see the advantages of and aftermarket system... unless it was coming in under the cost of OEM. :undecided:
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Hmmm, interesting.
Back last year Pioneer launched the F9110BT that was supposedly going to be sold in VW dealers. I've not heard much about it since (unless it's sold overseas by VW dealers?)
http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/pioneer-avic-f9110bt.html
Yepp overhere the lease co tried to talk me into the model you mentioned leasing it since the theft is a common daily issue with the RNS510.
To be frank it looks ghastly and not even close to the RNS510 so I did the wrong thing but stayed happy.....I ordered to lease the RNS510 and after 48 months I will have paid it twice (the other halve being insurance premium...I really kid you not :cry:)
F@ck It..its a GTI and supposed to look stunning in- and outside :cool:
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Hmmm, interesting.
Back last year Pioneer launched the F9110BT that was supposedly going to be sold in VW dealers. I've not heard much about it since (unless it's sold overseas by VW dealers?)
http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/pioneer-avic-f9110bt.html
Yepp overhere the lease co tried to talk me into the model you mentioned leasing it since the theft is a common daily issue with the RNS510.
To be frank it looks ghastly and not even close to the RNS510 so I did the wrong thing but stayed happy.....I ordered to lease the RNS510 and after 48 months I will have paid it twice (the other halve being insurance premium...I really kid you not :cry:)
F@ck It..its a GTI and supposed to look stunning in- and outside :cool:
It really does look ghastly.
It might work a treat, but I could not bear looking at it! :laugh:
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Over £1k and no HD?? Thats very expensive for something that you then have to link to your ipod afterwards. The RNS510 is linked in and charges through the cable in the armrest.. whilst all tracks and info are on screen. tbh I am really struggling to see the advantages of and aftermarket system... unless it was coming in under the cost of OEM. :undecided:
What does it offer? It does not have frequency tailering like the oem unit. What this OEM thing does is boost 5Khz and reduce the bass frequencies as you turn up the volume. (Its a saftey thing VW built in to stop numpties killing speakers and claiming off the warrenty) This makes it change the way it plays music so its crap basically. It does not have as low a powered continuous Watts built in amp so will be better at producing dynamic peaks tan the OEM, It has a flatter frequncy responce and also adjustable equaliser to help compensate for the oem speaker quality. It has much more upgrade ability pre-outs, pre-ins, video in and out, DAB add-on box ready etc etc the list goes on. The Iplop lead is simply a lead that plugs in the back of it and im sure if this was installed by a good audio dealer they could interface the MDI into it(i have not seen the wiring diagram for the MDI yet but im sure it will be easy adaption). Same with the oem reversing camera(I have looked into that one and not a problem). Full post code and iirc 3d mapping. etc etc Theres lots more on this than the blaupunkt oem unit.
The HDD do you guys ever use it with memory sticks and Iplops so easy to use?
There are also much cheaper aftermarket units available that do not have as much upgrade ability as this kenwood one.
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deleted. :embarassed: as answered earlier in the thread :embarassed:
More photos of that scirocco can be seen on the Kenwood website for anyone interested.
http://www.kenwood-electronics.co.uk/shows/scirocco/
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Does not look too bad to me and each to their own and all that.
The Scirocco looks fantastic on the out side but is badly let down on the inside, for me it looks cheap and nasty with the airfix centre console
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Over £1k and no HD?? Thats very expensive for something that you then have to link to your ipod afterwards. The RNS510 is linked in and charges through the cable in the armrest.. whilst all tracks and info are on screen. tbh I am really struggling to see the advantages of and aftermarket system... unless it was coming in under the cost of OEM. :undecided:
What does it offer? It does not have frequency tailering like the oem unit. What this OEM thing does is boost 5Khz and reduce the bass frequencies as you turn up the volume. (Its a saftey thing VW built in to stop numpties killing speakers and claiming off the warrenty) This makes it change the way it plays music so its crap basically. It does not have as low a powered continuous Watts built in amp so will be better at producing dynamic peaks tan the OEM, It has a flatter frequncy responce and also adjustable equaliser to help compensate for the oem speaker quality. It has much more upgrade ability pre-outs, pre-ins, video in and out, DAB add-on box ready etc etc the list goes on. The Iplop lead is simply a lead that plugs in the back of it and im sure if this was installed by a good audio dealer they could interface the MDI into it(i have not seen the wiring diagram for the MDI yet but im sure it will be easy adaption). Same with the oem reversing camera(I have looked into that one and not a problem). Full post code and iirc 3d mapping. etc etc Theres lots more on this than the blaupunkt oem unit.
The HDD do you guys ever use it with memory sticks and Iplops so easy to use?
There are also much cheaper aftermarket units available that do not have as much upgrade ability as this kenwood one.
But is he ever going to change his speaker?
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Unlikely to change the speakers, but the tv will be nice!
Roll on tomorrow...
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deleted. :embarassed: as answered earlier in the thread :embarassed:
More photos of that scirocco can be seen on the Kenwood website for anyone interested.
http://www.kenwood-electronics.co.uk/shows/scirocco/
Snoopy:
(1) Does the Zenec have a 30 GB hard drive?
(2) Is the power output from the RNS 510 4x20 watts unlike the Zenec which is 4x50 watts?
(3) Apart from looks (they are quite similiar), which of these two do you think is the better performer?
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1) from a quick scan of the spec on http://www.zenec.com/index.php?id=335&L=1 i don't think so.
2) Those are peak figures basically meeningless you need to look for Continious or the marketing term RMSwatts.
3) Depends what your after as theres pros and minuses for both. The VW unit is the quicker to upgrade and does most things ok. Its also worth checking the screen resolution.
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1) from a quick scan of the spec on http://www.zenec.com/index.php?id=335&L=1 i don't think so.
2) Those are peak figures basically meeningless you need to look for Continious or the marketing term RMSwatts.
3) Depends what your after as theres pros and minuses for both. The VW unit is the quicker to upgrade and does most things ok. Its also worth checking the screen resolution.
It would seem the Zenec does not have the 30 GB hard drive.
I wish these manufacturers would quote RMS values.
They probably obtain those peak values at 100% distortion!
Thanks anyway.
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1) from a quick scan of the spec on http://www.zenec.com/index.php?id=335&L=1 i don't think so.
2) Those are peak figures basically meeningless you need to look for Continious or the marketing term RMSwatts.
3) Depends what your after as theres pros and minuses for both. The VW unit is the quicker to upgrade and does most things ok. Its also worth checking the screen resolution.
It would seem the Zenec does not have the 30 GB hard drive.
I wish these manufacturers would quote RMS values.
They probably obtain those peak values at 100% distortion!
Thanks anyway.
Snoopy:
Screen resolution of RNS 510 = 800 x 480 (? pixels) - do you have the pixel count?
Screen resolution Kenwood = 800 x 480 (1152000 pixels) :huh:
Screen resolution of Zenec = 1440 x 234 (336960 pixels)
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That Zenec system looks pretty good as an OEM replacement.
I've used iGo8 on my smart phone and its a nice Sat Nav package. The integrated Parrot bluetooth would be a good feature too.
There are a couple of things though...
1. Does it work with on screen climate control?
2. The buttons illuminate white rather than the RNS / RCD's red colour.
3. No one knows what it really sounds like?
4. The playback buttons look a bit naff.
I'll stick with an RNS510, but if it was about £400 and I was looking for a cheap alternative, I may consider it. I have a feeling that its going to cost much more than £400 though?!
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That Zenec system looks pretty good as an OEM replacement.
I've used iGo8 on my smart phone and its a nice Sat Nav package. The integrated Parrot bluetooth would be a good feature too.
There are a couple of things though...
1. Does it work with on screen climate control?
2. The buttons illuminate white rather than the RNS / RCD's red colour.
3. No one knows what it really sounds like?
4. The playback buttons look a bit naff.
I'll stick with an RNS510, but if it was about £400 and I was looking for a cheap alternative, I may consider it. I have a feeling that its going to cost much more than £400 though?!
It is the Zenec ZE-NC2010. Does not look that bad.
http://www.zenec.com/index.php?id=335&L=1
I think you may be right to stick with the RNS 510.
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Another company to consider if anyone fancies an RNS are these guys, they are a forum sponsor on another forum, although if your after a recon unit it seems darren might be the best place to start.
http://www.vwcruise.com/index.html
Although their brand new units are quite reasonable compared to factory fit, does anyone have any experience with them?
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Another company to consider if anyone fancies an RNS are these guys, they are a forum sponsor on another forum, although if your after a recon unit it seems darren might be the best place to start.
http://www.vwcruise.com/index.html
Although their brand new units are quite reasonable compared to factory fit, does anyone have any experience with them?
They are too expensive. :rolleyes:
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1) from a quick scan of the spec on http://www.zenec.com/index.php?id=335&L=1 i don't think so.
2) Those are peak figures basically meeningless you need to look for Continious or the marketing term RMSwatts.
3) Depends what your after as theres pros and minuses for both. The VW unit is the quicker to upgrade and does most things ok. Its also worth checking the screen resolution.
It would seem the Zenec does not have the 30 GB hard drive.
I wish these manufacturers would quote RMS values.
They probably obtain those peak values at 100% distortion!
Thanks anyway.
Snoopy:
Screen resolution of RNS 510 = 800 x 480 (? pixels) - do you have the pixel count?
Screen resolution Kenwood = 800 x 480 (1152000 pixels)
Screen resolution of Zenec = 1440 x 234 (336960 pixels)
Snoopy:
Any idea of the pixel count oF the RNS 510 screen, please?
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Try http://vwnavi.com/forums/index.php you should be able to find any info you may want to ever know about the OEM VW systems.
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Screen resolution of RNS 510 = 800 x 480 (? pixels) - do you have the pixel count?
Screen resolution Kenwood = 800 x 480 (1152000 pixels)
Screen resolution of Zenec = 1440 x 234 (336960 pixels)
If a screen is 800 x 480 it has 800 pixels horizontally and 480 vertical lines. This means that you multiply 800 by 480 (hence 800 x 480) and you get 384000 pixels.
Thats generally how it works... I've no idea how Kenwood are getting 1152000 pixels considering they say its just a VGA screen?
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I know, i just went to check what Kenwood says odd that one.
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Screen resolution of RNS 510 = 800 x 480 (? pixels) - do you have the pixel count?
Screen resolution Kenwood = 800 x 480 (1152000 pixels)
Screen resolution of Zenec = 1440 x 234 (336960 pixels)
If a screen is 800 x 480 it has 800 pixels horizontally and 480 vertical lines. This means that you multiply 800 by 480 (hence 800 x 480) and you get 384000 pixels.
Thats generally how it works... I've no idea how Kenwood are getting 1152000 pixels considering they say its just a VGA screen?
Exactly. That is what confused me!
Thanks all.
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Screen resolution of RNS 510 = 800 x 480 (? pixels) - do you have the pixel count?
Screen resolution Kenwood = 800 x 480 (1152000 pixels)
Screen resolution of Zenec = 1440 x 234 (336960 pixels)
If a screen is 800 x 480 it has 800 pixels horizontally and 480 vertical lines. This means that you multiply 800 by 480 (hence 800 x 480) and you get 384000 pixels.
Thats generally how it works... I've no idea how Kenwood are getting 1152000 pixels considering they say its just a VGA screen?
Exactly. That is what confused me!
Thanks all.
If you divide the Kenwood pixel count of 1152000 by 3 you will get 384000 pixels! :huh:
Wierd!
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Maybe they're counting the individual Red, Green and Blue pixels?!
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Maybe they're counting the individual Red, Green and Blue pixels?!
You are right!
It does say 800 x 480 RGB on their specification for screen resolution.
Problem solved! :smiley:
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Spoke to a rather knowledgeable person just now regarding Sat Navs for the Golf.
He supplies and fits new RNS 510, Kenwood and Pioneer Sat Navs to VWs, Audis, etc
His take:
RNS 510 is superior on radio and the aftermarket ones are better on CD, DVD etc.
Radio reception from the aftermarket Sat Navs can be very poor even with boosters. This is due to arial incompatibility.
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Snoopy, any comments regarding my previous post, please?
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(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/AudioNetPhoto/MK6%20Golf/volkswagen_aerial_systems_to_05_05.gif)
In theory the reception may not be as good.
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Thanks Snoopy! :smiley:
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Old thread i know but i wonder if this is the unit people were thinking of back then?
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,16367.0.html
http://www.kenwood.eu/products/car/multimedia/receivers/DNX520VBT/details/
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/jaffa666/mini-IphonepicsJune365.jpg)
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ah, that looks more like it! might have kept that one i had the dnx9240 removed, and now have an RNS510 which is excellent, fitted to morty at the same time as Am1W's
i hated the kenwoods fit it had two separate surrounding trim pieces.
radio receptions was rubbish, and operating system was pants - but the sat nav was a lot better than the RNS - although the menus were slightly confusing
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ah, that looks more like it! might have kept that one i had the dnx9240 removed, and now have an RNS510 which is excellent, fitted to morty at the same time as Am1W's
i hated the kenwoods fit it had two separate surrounding trim pieces.
radio receptions was rubbish, and operating system was pants - but the sat nav was a lot better than the RNS - although the menus were slightly confusing
Hi! :smiley:
Nice to have met.
Bought the manual for the RNS 510 from VW. £12+VAT. Fcuk! :angry: Have not read it as yet but need to as I've little or no idea on Sat Nav usage. :rolleyes:
Bluetooth excellent but the bloody thing has only loaded the SIM registered tel numbers from my Blackberry. I'll do lots of studying this weekend.
Sound from the RNS at present not as good as the RCD 310 but Darren knows how to sort it out. Great guy.
The GTi is superb and somehow Darren has sorted out the rattles from behind the speedo/rev!