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Title: Golf GTI Tyres
Post by: wuker on 01 February 2010, 14:39
Hi All

First of all id like to congratulate you on such a good forum... The section of reccomended garages is a brilliant idea!!!!

Im looking to replace my two front tyres on my Mk5 GTI... I hit a pot hole the other day and one has a massive bulge out of the side

My question is what is the best tyre to buy for the golf?

Currently I have two continental sport 2's on it which since owning have been ok but i think the wheels spin a little to easily.

Any advice would be greatly welcomed
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Post by: Steve30 on 01 February 2010, 14:59
OMG , you started something now on here???? Wellcome to the forum, there are so many argumnets about this issue on here!! At the moment i have GYF1's on the front and they useless as a winter tyre IMO, so swapped them round to the back for the Dulop's which have been much better, but not as good F1's in the rain!! I found GYf1's dont last very long on my ED30, so me personaly I would go for the PS2's or PS3 Michlin all the way!! Hope this helps , but they are pricy but worth it in the long run.

 :wink: I find the Goodyear's overrated on this forum????  :evil:
Title: Re: Golf GTI Tyres
Post by: AlanD on 01 February 2010, 15:03
Welcome along !

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=107339.0
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Post by: smartypants on 01 February 2010, 15:41
Welcome!

PLEASE make your next thread about the cambelt change :D
Title: Re: Golf GTI Tyres
Post by: wuker on 01 February 2010, 16:18
Excellent thanks guys

Ill have a look at this thread you mentioned

Also another question:

Should I rotate the new tyres to the rear or keep them where they are?
Title: Re: Golf GTI Tyres
Post by: wuker on 01 February 2010, 16:19
Welcome!

PLEASE make your next thread about the cambelt change :D

I may well do - when are they scheduled to be changed? At around 60,000 miles?
Title: Re: Golf GTI Tyres
Post by: AlanD on 01 February 2010, 16:43
Should I rotate the new tyres to the rear or keep them where they are?

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=88373.0

;)
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Post by: wuker on 01 February 2010, 16:58
Alan

I noticed you are in Croydon - where do you get your tyres from?

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Post by: Saint Steve on 01 February 2010, 18:11
Vredestein Assym tyres are bar far the Best Value for money. Payed £91 each, Better the Ps2's in some Customer Reviews. Perform the same as the Michelin's for a third less in cost.

I have fitted Vredesteins on mine, and think they are superb, quiet and great traction.
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Post by: Gene Hunt. on 01 February 2010, 18:17
Vredestein Assym tyres are bar far the Best Value for money. Payed £91 each, Better the Ps2's in some Customer Reviews. Perform the same as the Michelin's for a third less in cost.

I have fitted Vredesteins on mine, and think they are superb, quiet and great traction.
.............same here.Great tyres, & ''yes'' sad i know but a really  :cool: tread pattern.
Title: Re: Golf GTI Tyres
Post by: reidtastic on 01 February 2010, 18:22
Been mentioned before that the Goodyear F1s arnt good in the Cold but ive never found them that bad TBH, They are still the best tyre out there IMO, I also am a fan of what you already have, the Conti Contact Sports. I had them on my M3 and they were Brill, not sure how they work on the GTI though. The potenzas are not bad either, although they needed replaced when i bought the car so i only done 200 miles on them, The PS 2s again are good but a bit pricey IMO so that rules them out for me.

The F1s won EVO Magazines tyre of the year, for all weather performance, So they have been proven !  :smiley:
Title: Re: Golf GTI Tyres
Post by: AlanD on 01 February 2010, 18:57
Alan

I noticed you are in Croydon - where do you get your tyres from?

I certainly am. Where are you?

In August I upgraded my Monzas to some BBS LMs and got a set of new Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetrics on it from a company called R-Tec over in St.Albans so not exactly local, but they did me a good deal on wheels and tyres so was worth the drive.
http://www.rtecshop.com/
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Post by: smartypants on 01 February 2010, 20:37
Vredestein Assym tyres are bar far the Best Value for money. Payed £91 each, Better the Ps2's in some Customer Reviews. Perform the same as the Michelin's for a third less in cost.

I have fitted Vredesteins on mine, and think they are superb, quiet and great traction.
.............same here.Great tyres, & ''yes'' sad i know but a really  :cool: tread pattern.
Its the main reason I like my GSD3s :D

Title: Re: Golf GTI Tyres
Post by: wuker on 02 February 2010, 11:45
Is there any noise or performance difference from a run flat tyre?
Title: Re: Golf GTI Tyres
Post by: AlanD on 02 February 2010, 11:48
Oh YES !

Do NOT buy run flats if your an enthusiastic driver and enjoy driving.

The opinion of one BMW driver

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I am driving a 2006 BMW 325 with the standard OEM Bridgestone run flat tires. These are simply the worst tires I have ever experienced (I must add that I have had many sets of Bridgestone Turanzas and Potenzas that performed extremely well on other cars). The run flat tires provide a rough jostling ride, do not corner well, and are incredibly noisy on rough pavement. I have only had the car a few weeks but I am going to switch out these tires with something else that will provide ride and handling that is acceptable. Carrying a compact spare and a jack is a small inconvenience compared to riding on this poor excuse for a tire. There is a long way to go on this technology and BMW should not have ruined an otherwise great car with these tires
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Post by: FamilyDub on 02 February 2010, 11:56
Is there any noise or performance difference from a run flat tyre?

^^^^ They cost more, they're loud as f00k and they ruin the ride.

I ran Bridgestone RE 050 Potenza run flats (17") on my last car for a year and yes, they lasted well, gripped well, but I refer you to my last sentence!
Title: Re: Golf GTI Tyres
Post by: wuker on 02 February 2010, 12:10
Thanks for your comments

I thought there would be some downsides

So i have narrowed it down to the Goodyear F1 Assy's and Vredesteins which are around the same price on Camskill

Title: Re: Golf GTI Tyres
Post by: wuker on 02 February 2010, 12:17
Sorry for all of the questions gents

Will there be an difference between the load index of 91 & 94?

And whether I should go for W or Y speed rating?
Title: Re: Golf GTI Tyres
Post by: jaydubveedub on 02 February 2010, 12:26
You need a load rating of at least 91 so either should be fine.

In terms of speed rating you must fit tyres that are rated above the top speed of the car, which I think is 148mph for the MK5 GTI.

Title: Re: Golf GTI Tyres
Post by: smartypants on 02 February 2010, 12:49
Is there any noise or performance difference from a run flat tyre?


You're better off running on just the rims.

You get a better ride, road holding and its a lot quieter. And cheaper! :)
Title: Re: Golf GTI Tyres
Post by: smartypants on 02 February 2010, 12:51
Thanks for your comments

I thought there would be some downsides

So i have narrowed it down to the Goodyear F1 Assy's and Vredesteins which are around the same price on Camskill



Don't discount the GSD3s, been running them for 6 years now. Perfect  tyre IMO, although fuel economy has dipped on the Golf after changing them from the God awful Dunlop Sport Maxx
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Post by: FamilyDub on 02 February 2010, 13:53
You need a load rating of at least 91 so either should be fine.

^^^^^ Correct. 'W' speed rating is sufficient for a standard GTI, but the tyre must be an eXtra Load tyre.

I have narrowed it down to the Goodyear F1 Assy's and Vredesteins

Equally good, but I'd be tempted to try the Vredestein, myself. :afro:

This linky might help and FYI:- http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyres_For/Volkswagen/Golf-GTI.htm (http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyres_For/Volkswagen/Golf-GTI.htm)
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Post by: Gene Hunt. on 02 February 2010, 14:23
You need a load rating of at least 91 so either should be fine.

^^^^^ Correct. 'W' speed rating is sufficient for a standard GTI, but the tyre must be an eXtra Load tyre.

I have narrowed it down to the Goodyear F1 Assy's and Vredesteins

Equally good, but I'd be tempted to try the Vredestein, myself. :afro:.......you won't go wrong mate.  :smiley:

This linky might help and FYI:- http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyres_For/Volkswagen/Golf-GTI.htm (http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyres_For/Volkswagen/Golf-GTI.htm)
Title: Re: Golf GTI Tyres
Post by: Stitch on 02 February 2010, 18:57
The OE tyres were conti 2's but have moved on to conti sport contact 3's. I think they're a much better tyre in terms of grip. Wear rate is similar and a pair of 18" costs me c£230 fitted.
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Post by: Mr. Indecisive on 03 February 2010, 17:03
had conti 3s on my st mondeo. same size as the golf thought they were good all round tyres and i got them fitted for £430 for 4 !  :grin:  will replace the dunlop on my ed 30 with these when they need replacing.
Title: Re: Golf GTI Tyres
Post by: Chris MKV on 03 February 2010, 18:31


The opinion of one BMW driver

"I am driving a 2006 BMW 325 with the standard OEM Bridgestone run flat tires. These are simply the worst tires I have ever experienced (I must add that I have had many sets of Bridgestone Turanzas and Potenzas that performed extremely well on other cars). The run flat tires provide a rough jostling ride, do not corner well, and are incredibly noisy on rough pavement. I have only had the car a few weeks but I am going to switch out these tires with something else that will provide ride and handling that is acceptable. Carrying a compact spare and a jack is a small inconvenience compared to riding on this poor excuse for a tire. There is a long way to go on this technology and BMW should not have ruined an otherwise great car with these tires"

 :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

I think if they are running on the pavement the noise might just not be only from the tyres and the 'roughness' may also go some way to explaining the red splashes up the side of the car! :wink:

I tend to prefer keeping the wheels on the road most of the time.
 

 
Title: Re: Golf GTI Tyres
Post by: smartypants on 03 February 2010, 22:24
had conti 3s on my st mondeo. same size as the golf thought they were good all round tyres and i got them fitted for £430 for 4 !  :grin:  will replace the dunlop on my ed 30 with these when they need replacing.
St220? I had an St24... great car :)

Title: Re: Golf GTI Tyres
Post by: mac7 on 04 February 2010, 00:26
I think if they are running on the pavement the noise might just not be only from the tyres and the 'roughness' may also go some way to explaining the red splashes up the side of the car! :wink:

I tend to prefer keeping the wheels on the road most of the time.

That's written by an american - they often refer to the road surface as pavement.
Title: Re: Golf GTI Tyres
Post by: Chris MKV on 04 February 2010, 18:27
I guessed so but it didn't stop me having a chuckle at the mental picture of a BMW ploughing down screaming pedestrians whilst the driver complained about the chatter from the tyres :grin:
Title: Re: Golf GTI Tyres
Post by: TeddyKGB on 04 January 2011, 14:18
I guessed so but it didn't stop me having a chuckle at the mental picture of a BMW ploughing down screaming pedestrians whilst the driver complained about the chatter from the tyres :grin:

Well yeah - BMW drivers are usually oblivious to other road users through their arrogance :rolleyes:

Anyway, I am looking at 4x of the Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta based on the recommendation of you guys, what sizes do I need for the 18" monza2 wheels?

Cheers
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Post by: sprout99 on 04 January 2011, 20:40
225/40/18 92 y

we have vredestein's all round on our mk5. had them before on our BMW, was impressed.

i had a full set of uniroyal rainsport 2's on my octy vrs - they were a good tyre too.
similar price.

Title: Re: Golf GTI Tyres
Post by: TeddyKGB on 04 January 2011, 21:18
Cheers! :cool:
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Post by: Snooze on 04 January 2011, 21:51
I asked same question b4 xmas and the consensus was to go for Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas.  Unfortunately my tyre place didn't do them, so I went for Continentel Sport Contact 3's.  I am very happy with the Conti's, but they were quite expensive @ £107.00 each.
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Post by: Phil1980 on 05 January 2011, 09:45
I asked same question b4 xmas and the consensus was to go for Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas.  Unfortunately my tyre place didn't do them, so I went for Continentel Sport Contact 3's.  I am very happy with the Conti's, but they were quite expensive @ £107.00 each.

To be honest thats a good price for the Conti 3's, I have the same tyres and they came in at £120 a piece, and I think that is lower than their usual price.
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Post by: Kings on 05 January 2011, 10:54
225/45/18 92 y

we have vredestein's all round on our mk5. had them before on our BMW, was impressed.

i had a full set of uniroyal rainsport 2's on my octy vrs - they were a good tyre too.
similar price.



That is the wrong size quoted, it should be 225/40/18.
running 45 profile on an 18" you might have rubbing issues on inside of arches etc.
If you have 17" wheels the size would be 225/45/17

Edit: Just realised this is my 1st post, so hi all!!
Title: Re: Golf GTI Tyres
Post by: sprout99 on 05 January 2011, 11:02
225/45/18 92 y

we have vredestein's all round on our mk5. had them before on our BMW, was impressed.

i had a full set of uniroyal rainsport 2's on my octy vrs - they were a good tyre too.
similar price.

That is the wrong size quoted, it should be 225/40/18.
running 45 profile on an 18" you might have rubbing issues on inside of arches etc.
If you have 17" wheels the size would be 225/45/17

Edit: Just realised this is my 1st post, so hi all!!




well spotted
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Post by: Snooze on 05 January 2011, 19:39
Yeah I go to a place that does trade prices.  Im tight with my cash though, ha ha!
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Post by: sprout99 on 06 January 2011, 09:33
Yeah I go to a place that does trade prices.  Im tight with my cash though, ha ha!

ditto

camskill

elite

tyretraders

all good and vary depending on brands
Title: Re: Golf GTI Tyres
Post by: TeddyKGB on 06 January 2011, 23:20
Quote from: Kings
That is the wrong size quoted, it should be 225/40/18.
running 45 profile on an 18" you might have rubbing issues on inside of arches etc.
If you have 17" wheels the size would be 225/45/17

Edit: Just realised this is my 1st post, so hi all!!


Cheers dude

Finally managed to find a place that actually did the Vriedsteins..  £440 for all 4 corners :cry: Cannot believe how much more quieter and smoother they seem though. It originally came with dunlop sportmax and they have been sh*te since day one... chirping all over the place. With these it feels as though I can put the power down without the ESP going crazy :lipsrsealed: (once they were bedded in on my private runway, of course)

Thanks chaps... good buy! (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/Smileys/modern/afro.gif)
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Post by: Saint Steve on 07 January 2011, 18:08
^^^^^

Glad your happy.The difference between the tyres makes huge difference to the characteristics of the car. :smiley:
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Post by: sprout99 on 08 January 2011, 09:12
^^^^^

Glad your happy.The difference between the tyres makes huge difference to the characteristics of the car. :smiley:
yep i agree

i had full set of fealken's on the vrs and it was rubbish
changed to rainsport 2's and car was awesome.

sadly i traded it in

and bought a mk5 GTi........wish i'd bought the golf years ago