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Title: Spraying front and rear valances black
Post by: godsANGER on 24 January 2010, 21:54
Hay all

Ok, i want to spray my front and rear valances black [there just black plastic atm] and my badge less grill so they all mach up with my mk4 golf TDi 2000 [i can get the colour code of the sticker in the boot right?]

Also i want to spray my VW badge on the rear and my stereo surrounds matt black.

Which is the best way to do this? As in process how many coats lacquer etc.

thanks
Title: Re: Spraying front and rear valances black
Post by: godsANGER on 25 January 2010, 20:13
anyone ? :cry: weres the love lol :tongue:
Title: Re: Spraying front and rear valances black
Post by: GuessWho on 25 January 2010, 22:18
Depends on tools used etc.

If cans, I reccomend rubbing down with 180 then 400 then 800 then plastic primering. If they are textured it will be best to get a bodyshop to primer using 2 pak.

Then block down the primer and 4-6 light but firm coats of colour then three of laquer allowing ten minutes between each.

If garage equipment, different ball game.
Title: Re: Spraying front and rear valances black
Post by: godsANGER on 25 January 2010, 22:22
Well be using rattle cans, trying to cut down on costs atm, more repairs then cash atm lol

 Thanks :smiley:
Title: Re: Spraying front and rear valances black
Post by: GuessWho on 25 January 2010, 22:42
That's what I would do anyway.

If they aren't texturted, a decent plastic primer will do.

Allow to dry so it doesn't look wet (5-10mins with cans) then another coat. Primer I'd do 5 light coats.
Title: Re: Spraying front and rear valances black
Post by: godsANGER on 25 January 2010, 22:55
When the weathers good think ill get that done. Should look tidy

What kind of lacquer would you recommend?

Also i want to do my rear badge matt black, matt lacquer on that then ?
Title: Re: Spraying front and rear valances black
Post by: shorty0100397 on 07 February 2010, 09:56
get some pics before and after for us  :grin:
Title: Re: Spraying front and rear valances black
Post by: godsANGER on 07 February 2010, 17:56
get some pics before and after for us  :grin:

well do, just waiting for the weather to improve.
Title: Re: Spraying front and rear valances black
Post by: kells on 07 February 2010, 18:05
dont do it

it will look sh1te, not meaning to sound harsh but the textured valances will just peel in no time unless do correctly, and with rattle cans i doubt you will get a factory finish/match. save your money and get it done right...
Title: Re: Spraying front and rear valances black
Post by: Rhyso on 07 February 2010, 18:16
dont do it

it will look sh1te, not meaning to sound harsh but the textured valances will just peel in no time unless do correctly, and with rattle cans i doubt you will get a factory finish/match. save your money and get it done right...

why not?  :huh:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/Rhyso/IMG_1653.jpg)

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/Rhyso/IMG_1655.jpg)

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/Rhyso/IMG_1656.jpg)

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/Rhyso/IMG_1660.jpg)

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/Rhyso/IMG_1661.jpg)

For £15 it works just fine provided your prep the surface correctly.  OK, so it won't last as long but if you chip it you won't be too gutted at ruining your expensive paint job  :smiley:

Yeah i didn't colour code mine but that's not the look I'm going for.

Just take your time and build up the layers of paint and lacquer



Title: Re: Spraying front and rear valances black
Post by: godsANGER on 07 February 2010, 18:26
dont do it

it will look sh1te, not meaning to sound harsh but the textured valances will just peel in no time unless do correctly, and with rattle cans i doubt you will get a factory finish/match. save your money and get it done right...

why not?  :huh:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/Rhyso/IMG_1653.jpg)

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/Rhyso/IMG_1655.jpg)

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/Rhyso/IMG_1656.jpg)

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/Rhyso/IMG_1660.jpg)

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/Rhyso/IMG_1661.jpg)

For £15 it works just fine provided your prep the surface correctly.  OK, so it won't last as long but if you chip it you won't be too gutted at ruining your expensive paint job  :smiley:

Yeah i didn't colour code mine but that's not the look I'm going for.

Just take your time and build up the layers of paint and lacquer





looks like a tidy job you’ve done there Rhyso

that’s why waiting for a good day, spend some time doing it,  if I did a good job well look nice  cost not a lot or I do it and looks crap. . . I go to the scrap’s /ebay get a replacement.
 :grin:
Title: Re: Spraying front and rear valances black
Post by: darren1.8t on 11 February 2010, 18:04
also halfords now mix any colour and put it in a can and the colour match is brilliant my m8 just did his side skirts with the halfords paint and it looks really good! :laugh:
Title: Re: Spraying front and rear valances black
Post by: godsANGER on 11 February 2010, 18:11
also halfords now mix any colour and put it in a can and the colour match is brilliant my m8 just did his side skirts with the halfords paint and it looks really good! :laugh:

sounds good , what kinda price are we taking ?
Title: Re: Spraying front and rear valances black
Post by: godsANGER on 12 February 2010, 18:44
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/wallace1984uk/Photo002.jpg)

One thing is ready to be sprayed, ok if I am doing it matt black what lacquer can i use.

Do i do it same as the valances?
Title: Re: Spraying front and rear valances black
Post by: godsANGER on 06 March 2010, 12:35
at last ive gone and got some stuff for spraying the badges lol. doing front to day then taking rear off tomorrow if weathers ok

fronts in a right state, :tongue: some rigth chips in it

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/wallace1984uk/Photo004-4.jpg)
Title: Re: Spraying front and rear valances black
Post by: vw-8v on 06 March 2010, 15:08
alrighty godsANGER

looks like i got or u got the car infront or behined at the factory lol (struggle between fixing and modding lol)

i too on going down the route of the blacked out thing lol so will b interested to see your results as i not sure if the boot badge being sprayed black a  good or bad thing but again it down to personal taste but still it will be nice to see your results m8.

good luck

Title: Re: Spraying front and rear valances black
Post by: godsANGER on 06 March 2010, 16:17
alrighty godsANGER

looks like i got or u got the car infront or behined at the factory lol (struggle between fixing and modding lol)

i too on going down the route of the blacked out thing lol so will b interested to see your results as i not sure if the boot badge being sprayed black a  good or bad thing but again it down to personal taste but still it will be nice to see your results m8.

good luck



:tongue: sounds like yove been having problems as well  :sad: 

just done the priming gone down well I think lol, just worried about he cold, heating’s not kicking in so house is frizzing atm should effect the  paint that much should it ?

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/wallace1984uk/Photo008Mhk.jpg)


Title: Re: Spraying front and rear valances black
Post by: godsANGER on 06 March 2010, 17:18
WHOOPS ! ! !

Thought may as well give the grill a clean as its been sat in the garage since i put my de-badged grill on and had road crud all over it.
Thought i would separate it to clean it and . . .I was a bit ruff with it and snapped a clip  :rolleyes:

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/wallace1984uk/Photvxco001.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/wallace1984uk/Photo002Jgtn.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/wallace1984uk/Photo003Mimt.jpg)

Clean now! Shame my car isn’t, hope its good weather tomorrow so can give it a clean if not the grill well stand out loads lol

A bit of glue and FIXED!.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/wallace1984uk/Photo004Jimj.jpg)

tonight i well put my first coat of the black on, leaving it for now to dry fully.
Title: Re: Spraying front and rear valances black
Post by: godsANGER on 07 March 2010, 23:42
Done  :laugh:  :lipsrsealed:
but i think my second coat of the lacquer was a but thick and didn’t go down smooth so doesn’t look as good as i wanted but not bad for my first attempt. But it well do for now the rear well look nice when i do it, also is there a way to keep the lacquer more matt looking? myn looks a bit glossy now, respray next couple of weeks i think  :shocked:  :tongue:   :sad: .

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/wallace1984uk/Photo003_002.jpg)

i have been thinking of doing the inside of the vw red on the grill seen it on a black golf and it looks very nice, Red or Toxic green i was thinking just something different .  :laugh:

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/wallace1984uk/Photo005_001-2.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/wallace1984uk/Photo004_002.jpg)

Title: Re: Spraying front and rear valances black
Post by: godsANGER on 08 March 2010, 21:32
FITTED!   :grin:

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/wallace1984uk/Photo003_002-1.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/wallace1984uk/Photo001_001-2.jpg)

Looks nice defiantly like it, rear one next. Also defiantly want to get the centre of the vw badge were it goes in sprayed red. Think it well look nice.

Dam it needs a clean lol  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Spraying front and rear valances black
Post by: godsANGER on 11 March 2010, 00:36
I ve started on the rear badge now, started buy taking the badge off used dental floss and the works heat gun to aid me in taking it off. shame its made the boot clean now  :huh: may have to do the rest.

Then striped it to the two main parts sanded and sprayed with primmer.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/wallace1984uk/Photo002_003.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/wallace1984uk/Photo003-4.jpg)
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(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/wallace1984uk/Photo005_001-3.jpg)

The rubber part should be fun to re fit. . . may just knock one up at work
Title: Re: Spraying front and rear valances black
Post by: godsANGER on 12 March 2010, 00:30
Done ! not great pics but well do till I get a sharan badge, well get a pic with it on the car as well.
I re-used the rubber which goes round the outer edge which was fun to put back on, didn’t use lacquer on the back part so the VW were different not 100% about it well see how it goes.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/wallace1984uk/Photo003_0012.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/wallace1984uk/Photo0053.jpg)

Front and back valances next, Just need good weather.
Title: Re: Spraying front and rear valances black
Post by: godsANGER on 13 March 2010, 19:36
fitted . . .well sort of

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/wallace1984uk/Photo0112.jpg)

Not fitted flush at the top and i buts gone under it self so may take off and re-mount tomorrow.
But i like it, looks the sex! Well at least till i get my sharan.

Also what do people think about colouring the I in TDi on the black black as well? leave it red or do it black ?
Title: Re: Spraying front and rear valances black
Post by: mowlamb on 14 March 2010, 19:42
Looks good mate, looks like you did a good job with the spraying. I prefer the candy white badges on black golfs tho. It looks awesome!
Title: Re: Spraying front and rear valances black
Post by: godsANGER on 14 March 2010, 21:28
Looks good mate, looks like you did a good job with the spraying. I prefer the candy white badges on black golfs tho. It looks awesome!

Thanks mate

when i get it lowered going to do something a bit different with them i think, like vinyl warp them at work in something bright or just spray inside the VW on the front, seen someone on here with a black golf with the inside sprayed red looks very nice.